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Microsoft Loses Passport

nikkoslack copies and pastes: "Microsoft is abandoning one of its most controversial attempts to dominate the Internet after rival companies banded together to oppose it and consumers failed to embrace it. The Redmond software company said Wednesday it would stop trying to persuade Web sites to use its Passport service, which stores consumers' credit-card and other information as Internet users surf from place to place."

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  1. Passport's failure by turnstyle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think "rival companies banded together to oppose it" was far less relevant than "consumers failed to embrace it"

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  2. It's often implemented without https by HawkinsD · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thank God.

    I realize that it's probably the fault of the implementer, and not the technology, but I can't tell you how many times I've supplied my password to a page that was rendered without https.

    So I had to get two Passport accounts: one for secure things, like my MSDN account, and one for things that I didn't care who stole my password for.

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    1. Re:It's often implemented without https by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Informative

      Often the page is sent in the clear, but the submit action is an https link.

      Not that I think that such behaviour is good practice... just that it might very well have been encrypted.

  3. A few years down the line ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    /tinfoil hat on

    Microsoft will embrace the Libery Alliance's Passport service. Windows users will embrace it too because it will be ported into the kernel.

    Few years later, Microsoft will modify the protocol to extend it, adding their own proprietary features. Windows users have no choice but to embrace it.

    Microsoft will then lock out competitors from using their new version of Passport. They might even patent parts of it. In the end they will end up dominating the Passport buisness anyways.

    /tinfoil hat off

    1. Re:A few years down the line ... by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree. However I have one question. Why did you take the tinfoil hat off?

  4. Not Totally Abandoned by p0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft will still use Passport for MSN services like Hotmail.

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  5. Re:no trust... no passport by turnstyle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Nobody believes that Microsoft focuses on security. Nobody. That is the reason that the passport system failed. The general computer using public is not really tech-knowledgable."

    Your logic kind of cancels itself out. You are correct that the bulk of the public isn't tech-knowledgable -- and so I'd say that it's safe to say that they didn't avoid Microsoft's Passport for security reasons.

    (after all, do they avoid Microsoft's OSes for security reasons?)

    Passport mostly failed because those masses didn't "get it" and didn't care to.

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  6. what about liberty alliance? by munehiro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just some questions. Is the liberty alliance project still alive? does it provide a decentralized authentication proxy and will it be deployed concretely in some future?

    There were a lot of rumors about this "passport killer" but now it seems to be faded into silence.

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  7. Not surprising by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They shot themselves in the foot a long time ago with extremely high licensing costs and requirements as well as complicated implementation requirements (not to mention the tiny client portfolio or constant security problems).

    Besides, there's no push for businesses to either adopt single-sign-on services, or for customers to want it.
    Businesses require flexibility when it comes to user authorisation and profiles that 3rd-party services cannot offer.
    Most people either use the same user-name and password combination for all of their services, and there aren't many browsers that won't auto-complete u/p forms.

    At least with this announcement, Microsoft might be able to push some of it's resources from trying to push this serviced to 3rd parties to fixing the services internally (ever tried to log-out?)

  8. MS Shot Self in Foot by phaln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Microsoft continued to leave "security" off its list of "necessary items" to follow up on for years, they pretty much shot any hopes of controlling a unified authentication system out the door.

    Nobody takes them seriously as far as security goes. Just reading the headlines for a day would make that abundantly clear.

    Perhaps a competitor will come out with a clean record and a compelling product, but in this area it isn't going to be Microsoft, if anyone.

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  9. Passport was a bad name by DoctorHibbert · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife was buying airline tickets on Expedia when it asked her to log in, the first log in choice was to use her Passport id. So she dutifully goes and retrieves her US passport. Yes, I laughed at her too, but still the confusion was understandable, she was buying airline tickets after all.

    Maybe if they would have called WebId or something more descriptive it might have caught on.

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  10. Newsflash! by Foofoobar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Innovation isn't really innovation if no one wants it but you.

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  11. Misconceptions by RupW · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Redmond software company said Wednesday it would stop trying to persuade Web sites to use its Passport service, which stores consumers' credit-card and other information as Internet users surf from place to place."

    • Passport does not store your credit-card details any more. You had to opt in to passport's Wallet service to do this. Microsoft discontinued Wallet a long time ago.
    • You do not have to provide any personal details to Passport. If you do, you can refuse Passport permission to pass them on to other sites. In this case, all the end sites get is your 64-bit user ID.
    • End sites cannot store information in your Passport account. The API is one way only. To alter the details in your Passport you have to go to passport.net
    • Passport is a trusted third-party for authentication. You don't log into any passport-enabled site directly; they redirect you to a secure page on passport.net (often with some source-site branding) and Passport redirects you back to them once you've logged in.
    • Passport absolutely DOES NOT "store your passwords". A few people said this in the eBay story's comments (!). Come on people, we're supposed to be tech-savvy here.

    I'm almost sorry to see it go - it was a usable, simple to integrate single-sign-on with a big name, money and a fair critical mass behind it. Shame the entry price was so high.