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Cassini Shows Close Up of Iapetus

dazza101 writes "The Cassini spacecraft passed within 72,000 kms of the Saturn moon Iapetus yesterday, taking a series of spectacular images of this intriguing moons rugged surface. An excellent prelude to what promises to be one of the major stories of the new year, the plunge of the Huygens probe into Titan's atmosphere on January 24."

156 comments

  1. If that's no space station, what is it? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 4, Funny
    Iapetus doesn't concern me. What concerns me is Mimas, which has a clearly visible crater with a mountain inside it.

    I have a hard time believing that's a natural formation. And I'm concerned that whatever did it might still be bouncing around the universe somewhere.

    Anyone have any idea what could have caused a formation like that?

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    1. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Scoria · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a hard time believing that's a natural formation. And I'm concerned that whatever did it might still be bouncing around the universe somewhere.

      We should only be concerned about Europa.

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    2. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yep, that's a moon alright.

    3. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Pinkfud · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's a "rebound effect". Whatever caused that crater was so big and hit so hard that it penetrated the moon's crust. The more plastic inner material was violently compressed, then shot out through the center of the crater forming the "mountain". It's a rare phenomenon, but I don't have any trouble believing it's natural.

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    4. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by dn15 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      And I'm concerned that whatever did it might still be bouncing around the universe somewhere.
      Even if it is, does it matter? I don't see how this would be any greater cause for concern than the objects that made other huge craters on other planets/moons/etc. I mean, respectfully, it's not news that there are big things floating out in space, or that some of them have collided with other objects. And if it does head our way, I have faith in Bruce Willis.
    5. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by IO+ERROR · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      We should only be concerned about Europa.

      Europa? But I'm an American!

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    6. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Large impact craters are characterized by central peaks. This type of crater ("complex impact crater") is common on the Moon, Mars, Earth, and all other bodies with impact craters. The peak forms by rebound of the crust. This page has some details: http://www.solarviews.com/eng/tercrate.htm

    7. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anyone have any idea what could have caused a formation like that? " ...a big rock maybe? ;]
      It may be possible that the mountain we see there in Herschel is that big rock itself. I doubt anything big enough to make that crater would 'bounce' off.
      But WTF do I know, I'm an Earthling.

    8. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Anyone have any idea what could have caused a formation like that?

      The vogons of course...

    9. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by rockwood · · Score: 0

      That picture lacks the true depth of the crater. Check out THIS PHOTO for a much more accurate detail

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    10. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Turing+Machine · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can see a similar phenomenon in these high speed photos of water droplets.

    11. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Squid · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's a crater on the Moon with such a peak. I guess it really gets around.

      They're called rebound peaks and they are a common feature of impact craters, and perfectly natural.

    12. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by The+Journalist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cheney should be very worried now. NASA's found his prototype Death Star.

    13. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Forbman · · Score: 1

      Just watch early slow-motion films of water drops landing on water. With the rebound peak on the moon/planet/whatnot, it seems that it cooled fast enough during the rise to not fall completely back in on the way down, relative to the macro-level viscosity of the material in the disturbance.

    14. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by pediddle · · Score: 3, Informative

      If by "more accurate detail" you read exaggerated artificial relief done with Photoshop, then by all means, check out the photo.

    15. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      _Bull_ _shit_!!! That's the Death Star!

    16. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Arngautr · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anyone have any idea what could have caused a formation like that?

      A meteorite.

    17. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by IllForgetMyNickSoonA · · Score: 1

      Asteroid, actually. Meteorite is an asteroid burning in the atmosphere (aka "shooting star"). As far as I can remember, Iapetus does not have any atmosphere worth mentioning. Check this for details.

    18. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by adeydas · · Score: 1, Informative

      And a similar phenomenon is happening here on Earth too. The Himalayas were formed due to the impact of peninsular India when the continents were formed. Well as a 'repulse' to the imapct, peninsular India is now slowly shifting away from the Himalayas. Can this be called a product of Newton's third law on a much greater scale?

    19. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It explains it on the very page you linked to, and you seem to be wrong.

      A meteor is a hunk of something that is burning in the atmospehere which came from space which it was shooting through. A meteorite is one of those hunks that manages to hit the ground.

      An asteroid is something which orbits the sun, whereas meteors/meteorites have never entered orbit.

    20. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Arngautr · · Score: 1

      A meteor is one that burns up (any body's atmosphere), a meteorite is one that hits, an astroid is one out in space. Your link even says this!?!

    21. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by kubrick · · Score: 1

      "All these worlds are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landings there."

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    22. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Angry+Toad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Another feature I'm quite curious about is this globe-spanning ridge. I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere yet.

      It seems (though I may be wrong) to sit dead-center on the darkened portion of the moon and span much of the length of the dark part as well. Is there a connection perhaps? I'd be interested in the opinions of any planetary astronomers.

    23. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Lispy · · Score: 1

      Hey, darn. That's my hidden citadel. Now I gotta move my lair to another moon. Muahaha...

    24. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by IllForgetMyNickSoonA · · Score: 1

      Uhh... embarrasing. :-) I read "meteorite" and parsed that as "meteor" (for which reason whatsoever). Please receive my appologies - you were right, I was wrong.

    25. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by dukerobinson · · Score: 2, Funny

      that is clearly the moon's "primary weapon" obviously this station has gone long unused as it is covered in "space dust"

    26. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that's not Senator Lieberman's Death Star? :)

    27. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by pyr0 · · Score: 1

      You need to take a basic geology course (as well as whoever modded you informative). Not only is the Indian/Australian plate still colliding with with Asian plate, but the process of forming a high point at the center of a meteor impact is nothing like the slow collision of two tectonic plates.

    28. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by k4_pacific · · Score: 1

      The moon is hollow to save material. That is the seam where the two halves were welded together.

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    29. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      You can see a similar phenomenon in these high speed photos of water droplets.

      Aaaah! Darth Vader is gonna torture us all with.....with......WATER! Run!

    30. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      zlarty bartfast was in a rush that day - obviously
      just stuck two prototype moon halves together!

    31. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Complete lack of humor is what Slashdot moderation is all about.

    32. Re:If that's no space station, what is it? by Winkhorst · · Score: 1

      The crater in question resulted from a very rare toroidal meteor. Because of its shape the meteor rotates and is often mistaken for an alien space ship. Because these meteors are metallic, they generate an electromagnetic field that distorts brainwaves in such a manner that observers think they are seeing aliens.

      This public service announcement was brought to you by the Martian Defense Force, who, we repeat, is not interested in invading your wonderful little planet...

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  2. Cassini Hyugens by metlin · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cassini Hyugens sounds like the name of a Scandinavian supermodel or something.

    And here I was hoping for some spectacular pictures :-(

    What do I see? Big round thing with holes. Different, but not the way I imagined :-/

    1. Re:Cassini Hyugens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey you're right.

      She can gaze at my lapetus any time!

    2. Re:Cassini Hyugens by pv2b · · Score: 1

      Big round thing with holes? Astronomy-related story?

      Hmm.

      Could this be the perfect time for...? Yes it could.

      This remind you of somebody you know?

    3. Re:Cassini Hyugens by LS · · Score: 1

      I don't know about you, but that big honkin' crater that is a quarter the size of the moon is kinda cool to me. The crater CONTAINS craters...

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    4. Re:Cassini Hyugens by metlin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well, talk of heavenly bodies of the wrong kind :-(

  3. WRONG DATE !!! Huygens descends on the 14th. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    The article submitter is just trying to make sure nobody shows up so the tickets wont be sold out.

    1. Re:WRONG DATE !!! Huygens descends on the 14th. by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny


      Actually submitter is right.

      The probe does descend into the atmosphere on Jan 14th, but it takes an additional 10 days to photoshop the results.

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  4. Iapetus by HuckleCom · · Score: 1

    Iapetus: Greek Mythology. A Titan who was the father of Prometheus and Atlas and an ancestor of the human race. Why do we name everything using greek mythology? I mean, sure it sounds cool... but so does foshizzle.

    1. Re:Iapetus by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Why do we name everything using greek mythology?"

      Because Galileo got frist p0st.

    2. Re:Iapetus by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      Because christian mythology sucks?

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  5. There are.... by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ....also many more images if you go straight to the raw feed.

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    1. Re:There are.... by Protocron · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. Looking at the photo in different GIMP layers, I think it probably is a comet. It might be that one, Comet Machholz. Who knows. I'm certainly not going to look for it. The reason is because from right to left it seems to get lighter, much like a comet. I'm not saying that it completely is that, but if you magnify it a few times you see that. Than again who knows? Comet, UFO, killer tomatoes.

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    2. Re:There are.... by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think you were replying to the AC next to me but I'll reply anyway! :o) It's not a UFO and it's not a star and it's not a comet or planet. Its a proton, or perhaps, an electron. Accelerated to relativistic velocities by the soalr wind or saturn's magnetosphere (or both) it struck the cameras CCD at an angle and as it traveleld through, excited some electrons in the valence band of the semiconducting image detection layer to the conduction band, just like a photon of visible light would if it hit the detector and produced a streak in the image. It's called a "cosmic ray hit" and there is software to remove them from the images.

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    3. Re:There are.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am somewhat disappointed that their so-called "raw images" are available only in compressed JPEG format.
      Surely PNG grayscale and color images, or some other lossless format (TIFF maybe?), would be more appropriate.

  6. Nice rock but... by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 0

    How does this promise to be one of the biggest stories of the new year? There are tons of rocks out there. What is so special about this one that will make it a huge news story in '05?

    1. Re:Nice rock but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sean Connery and Nicholas Cage are back for the sequel....

    2. Re:Nice rock but... by brittm · · Score: 1

      Perhaps what will make this a big story is simply the fact that we're out there, and we're looking at it.

      A baby's first steps aren't very interesting in and of themselves, but they're exciting none the less because they're the tell-tale beginnings of greater things to come.

    3. Re:Nice rock but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like paying for College.

    4. Re:Nice rock but... by dazza101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The first look at a moon with its own atmosphere that may resemble the atmosphere of the early Earth?

    5. Re:Nice rock but... by Carthag · · Score: 1

      The "biggest story of the new year" refers to Titan, not Iapetus.

  7. Does anyone else notice... by s7726 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Did anyone else notice the fact that the main picture looks like any other picture of the earth's moon?

    1. Re:Does anyone else notice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. What's amazing is the details of the pictures. Having "moon-quality" pictures of a satellite of Saturn is quite an achievment. It's like having the opportunity to observe hand-on a moon rock that the Apollo guys brang back. Your comment makes it sound like if it was like observing a rock you pick up in your back yard. No doubt they will look the same, only what they are makes it amazing or not. Personally, I was much more awed by the shots of Titan and I just can't wait for the Hyugen probe to land on it, in hope it is successful in doing so.

  8. Not fair, not square. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Funny
    Something's missing, like big, square, black thin block.

    (No, you won't get it if you didn't read the book).

    1. Re:Not fair, not square. by mako1138 · · Score: 0

      I rather prefer the way Clarke set the Monolith on a moon. That lent some parallelism to the scene. Kubrick's setup has its merits though, as it works well on the screen.

      It was rather interesting reading through my childhood-planet-book (Peterson's guide?) and learning that Iapetus/Japetus has the curious distinction of having a completely white side with a black dot right in the middle.

    2. Re:Not fair, not square. by MatB · · Score: 1

      And after months of lurking, the inspiration to create an account comes from... Have they resolved/explained the weird brightness differential between the orbits? The only reason I clicked on this story was the link to the book, no one else has mentioned it yet...

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    3. Re:Not fair, not square. by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      Years ago I read (sorry, can't remember the source) that while Clarke invented the 'black dot' in 1968, humans (actually Voyager 1 or 2) didn't discover it for a few more years.

      Nifty, no?

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  9. I'm more worried about Mars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Or, more precisely, the geometric object that crated on mars:

    The mars golf ball.

    At a guess, it's a glob of molten rock that condensed into a sphere in orbit before hitting the surface again. But that still doesn't make me want to see more detailed photographs and information about it so very, very badly. It would probably be one of the most impressive sights on the Martian surface.

    1. Re:I'm more worried about Mars. by mpthompson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just a guess on my part, but the object in the crater looks more like dunes of sand blown into and protected by the crater than an intact blob of something that fell from orbit. Regardless, it would be interesting to see a higher resolution picture.

    2. Re:I'm more worried about Mars. by Nerull · · Score: 1

      You also have to remember that shadows can play tricks with your eyes in pictures like this. Craters can look like buldges, etc.

  10. Wow!! by boomgopher · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yikes, everyone take a look at this one:
    Amazing detail photo

    Can't wait for others of this caliber!!`~ Made me weep!!



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    1. Re:Wow!! by eam77 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Perhaps they should send that photo to CSI, they have amazing digital photography enhancement capabilities.

    2. Re:Wow!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then we could see a rounder, smoother-looking white blotch on a grey background...

    3. Re:Wow!! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Can't wait for others of this caliber!!`~ Made me weep!!"

      Wow. Never would expect that Nasa's using a Game Boy Camera...

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    4. Re:Wow!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a microscopic close-up of your brain, you pinhead

  11. Quick scan for UFO's before they edit them out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check This out! It looks like a streaking UFO in one of the raw images.

    1. Re:Quick scan for UFO's before they edit them out! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Check This out! It looks like a streaking UFO in one of the raw images.

      I beleive they may rotate the probe to keep the cameras pointing at the target. If this is the case, then stars may appear as streaks because the camera would be moving relative to the star's angle.

      Or, it may just be cosmic rays striking the camera sensors. Happens all the time in space. There is a long exposure from one of the Mars rovers that had streaks all over it due to cosmic rays. Looked like a cyclotron (sp?) image.

  12. Re:the other server by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

    on second thought, try this server instead. Seems to be moving rather faster than the now /.ed "saturn.jpl.nasa" one.

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  13. Titan is a hippie! by soimless · · Score: 1

    http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/ casJPGFullS06/W00003604.jpg look it made Cassini take LSD!!!

    1. Re:Titan is a hippie! by Snipes420 · · Score: 1

      nice, my new desktop wallpaper

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    2. Re:Titan is a hippie! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here is an actual link.
      There are some interesting diffraction effects there.

    3. Re:Titan is a hippie! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      ...jpg look it made Cassini take LSD!!!

      I believe that is due to dust particles on the camera optics. Normally they don't show up unless an image is heavily enhanced. Sometimes bringing out details of planets and moons also brings out details of the optics system.

      On many of the Viking orbiter images from the 70's you can see a big-ass donut shape on many of the images caused by a big dust particle.

      I suspect that bumpy lunches and thermal cycling contribute to camera dust regardless of how clean it starts out.

    4. Re:Titan is a hippie! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      nice, my new desktop wallpaper

      I made a colorized, jazzed up version for ya.

      Enjoy it sober :-)

  14. Bah... by el-spectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Call me when they find a monolith...

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  15. Wrong date. by daquake · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Huygens plunge is January 14'th, not the 24'th :) 2 Weeks is hard enough to wait for! :)

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    1. Re:Wrong date. by dazza101 · · Score: 1

      You are right! Doh!!!!

    2. Re:Wrong date. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, unfortunately Huygens will have the same fate as BeagleII. Mark my words. :(

  16. What is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the large dark area? A super gigantic crater?

  17. Re:Nasa needs better cameras. by daquake · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh, if you have a webcam that can withstand solar radiation, temperature extremes, and run for 7 years with no problems, I'd ebay it :P

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  18. Hyugens by dj245 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Cassini Hyugens sounds like the name of a Scandinavian supermodel or something.

    10 Geek points for sucessfully pronouncing "Hyugens"! Bonus if you can also pronounce "Reuters" sucessfully.

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    1. Re:Hyugens by johannesg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I can do both, but I'm Dutch so that helps ;-)

      In fact my last name, happily obscured in this forum, also has the same "uy" and the hard "g" sounds, and I know from experience that there is absolutely no way for english speakers to pronounce it correctly. Usually I let people stumble a few times and then tell them to call me by my first name.

      I cannot begin to spell "Huijgens" phonetically, but I can tell you this: the common english pronunciation, "Joogens", is wrong. The "H" is the same sound as in the word "help", the "uij" doesn't exist in any English word as far as I can tell but it isn't "oo" or "oi", and the "g" is proncounced more like a short, rolling "r".

      I'm not sure if "Reuters" was originally a Dutch name, but if it was the "eu" sound is mispronounced as well - it shouldn't sound like "oi".

      No doubt some slashdotter who knows how to spell phonetically will come to my rescue and tell you how to pronounce both ;-)

    2. Re:Hyugens by StarfishOne · · Score: 2, Informative

      The phonetic spelling can be found on Dictioary.com .

      Luckily, also being Dutch myself, I have no trouble at all pronouncing this word.. but I do like that supermodel thought! ;)

    3. Re:Hyugens by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      And 10 slashdot-editor points for getting the name Huygens wrong! *slap*

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    4. Re:Hyugens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you, you go to dslr :p

    5. Re:Hyugens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scottish people haven't much trouble with it. They have the "hard g" from their "loch". Where they get the "ui" sound from I don't know but they can distinguish it and hence reproduce it, after a bit of practice. And no, it's not an "ui" as in "muir". Funnily, near London there's a place called Ruislip. I think even local people are a bit unsure of how to pronounce it.

    6. Re:Hyugens by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      what is dslr? :S

  19. What Caused the Ridge? by Al+Mutasim · · Score: 1

    Interesting image. The craters look pretty commonplace--but what caused the ridge? It appears to enclose a low-lying area. The border seems too jagged to be a large crater.

    1. Re:What Caused the Ridge? by Econym · · Score: 1

      The fact that this 8-mile high ridge follows the equator pretty closely suggests to me that it's the remains of a fallen ring. When the ring failed some of the material would have escaped and the rest just dropped vertically onto what was then the equator. Iapetus has no atmosphere to cause the material to disperse as it fell.

  20. Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by NarrMaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In 2001: A Space Odyssey, Clarke described Iapetus as having a black circle painted on it, with a white circle within.

    When one of the Voyager probes photographed Iapetus, a "circular" black area was found with a smaller white area within.

    Why is this interesting? 2001 was published in 1968. The Voyager probes didn't visit Jupiter until 1980 (V1) and 1981 (V2).

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    1. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh...so what? Are you suggesting Clarke is a psychic astronomer?

    2. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      No, it is just a really cool coincidence.

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    3. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are such things as telescopes.

      We've never travelled to the sun and taken pictures, but I think we've a pretty good idea about the features of the sun.

    4. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by deglr6328 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Carl Sagan, who was on the Voyager imaging
      team, sent him a JPL photo (he was a member on the voyager team) with a note scribbled on the back. it said: "Thinking of you"....

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    5. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, but most of Iapetus's features were not known until the Voyager fly-bys. These include the white patch within the dark circle.

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    6. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by snake_dad · · Score: 2, Informative
      And you think Clark thought of it first?

      SpaceFlight Now:

      With a diameter of about 1,400 kilometers (890 miles), Iapetus is Saturn's third largest moon. It was discovered by Jean-Dominique Cassini in 1672. It was Cassini, for whom the Cassini-Huygens mission is named, who correctly deduced that one side of Iapetus was dark, while the other was white.

      Not sure how much that vision of the moon has improved since, but going from that to the idea that maybe something went <SPLAT!> on the moon leaving a black circle isn't what I'd call a stroke of genius. (Regardless of wether a splat really caused the dark region, or some other process). Clarke has come up with many great ideas, and promoted great new ideas of others, but this isn't one of them IMHO.

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    7. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by mikewhittaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given that comets are currently thought of as having a coating of dark carboniferous goo IIRC, it doesn't seem too unlikely that if one hit a small moon, it could leave a black residue, if the impact wasn't sufficient to vaporise and degrade whatever the goo is.

    8. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      Its not that one side was white and the other black, its that one side was black with a small white circlish are in the middle. I'm not just going on speculation. I am going on quotes from various people, including Clarke himself and some folks who worked at JPL. They all agreeded it was a coincidence.

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    9. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Alright, I ignored the white inner circle part.

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    10. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      all agreeded it was a coincidence.

      Famous last words.

    11. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      [in "2001"] Clarke described Iapetus as having a black circle painted on it, with a white circle within....When one of the Voyager probes photographed Iapetus, a "circular" black area was found with a smaller white area within.....2001 was published in 1968. The Voyager probes didn't visit Jupiter [Saturn?] until 1980

      Image of circular area (on the right side).

    12. Re:Arthur C. Clarke and Iapetus. by NarrMaster · · Score: 1

      The Voyager probes didn't visit Jupiter [Saturn?]

      Yeah, I had a slip when I mentioned Jupiter because of the film version of the movie.

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  21. Black and White by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Checked out the raw images - this one shows very clearly the black side of Iapetus and the white side. Very strange....

    http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/ casJPGFullS07/N00026377.jpg

    1. Re:Black and White by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an Iapetus Mosaic Desktop Background I put together for fun.

  22. Isn't it Jan 14th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Isn't Huygens plunging into Titan on Jan 14th??

    1. Re:Isn't it Jan 14th? by daquake · · Score: 1

      Yeah, posted it a bit higher on the page. Is there a place to submit corrections for te actual headline story text?

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    2. Re:Isn't it Jan 14th? by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 1

      The editors generally pick it up.

      Or rather, they might pick it up but there's nothing anyone else can do about it but whine. :)

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  23. again the /. "editors" screw up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they have the technology to check nasa websites for facts. yet they don't do it. go on, click the preview button before posting articles. i DARE you.

    submitted article says the probe will land on titan jan. 24. oddly, cnn has it jan. 14. even more odd, nasa's cassini website even says jan. 14.

    there will be a lot of sorry "take /. as gospel" people out there looking for word on the landing 10 days late.

    1. Re:again the /. "editors" screw up by dazza101 · · Score: 1

      Not now :-)

    2. Re:again the /. "editors" screw up by daquake · · Score: 1

      Oi... if only mod points were as proliferate as the morons in my daily life (LA Drivers) ;).

      Obviously this wasn't a failure to check the article (random guesswork) - though it could have been, but rather a simple typo. Not even the machines that run the Slashdot editors are perfect :P

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  24. Re:Nasa needs better cameras. by sacredchao · · Score: 3, Informative

    Also, resolution ain't everything. You can bet that this camera, like the mars landers and unlike your generic handheld digi-camera has a CCD an inch or two wide rather than a few millimetres. Good light sensitivity makes up for a lot. Big chunky pixels in the CCD mean fewer dead black spots from radiation and suchlike as well.

  25. It is by Konster · · Score: 1

    It is clear to me that Mimas is actually the Death Star. I wonder if it fully operational?

    1. Re:It is by helioquake · · Score: 1

      Yes it is. Makes you feel better?

    2. Re:It is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, let me put it this way: there used to be a planet between Mars and Jupiter.

  26. Harry Caray by T3dB3rg · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Would you eat Mimas if it were made of spare ribs? It's a simple question.

    1. Re:Harry Caray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you eat Mimas if it were made of spare ribs? It's a simple question.

      My ribs ARE NOT SPARE! I NEED THEM!

  27. Date in article wrong. by MythMoth · · Score: 2, Informative

    It plunges on January 14th, not 24th.

    Press Release

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    1. Re:Date in article wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And "72,000 km" doesn't take an 's'. The submitter is dead wrong about many things.

  28. Obvious.. by Renraku · · Score: 0, Redundant

    That's no moon..

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  29. Iapetus Ring by FrostedWheat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've noticed in a lot of the images, there appears to be a ring of mountains around most of Iapetus's equator: Here, here and here.


    I'm no scientest, but is it possible that this moon once had a ring system like Saturn itself? Over time the ring particles fell out of orbit and formed the mountains along the equator.

    1. Re:Iapetus Ring by odyrithm · · Score: 1

      Slartibartfast forgot to remove the mold lines the silly old fart! don't worry I'll get straight on the blower!

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    2. Re:Iapetus Ring by Angry+Toad · · Score: 1

      My previous post on this topic may be lost in the noise above.

      It isn't clear to me that this mountain range extends beyond the "dark zone" - but it does seem to sit squarely in the middle of the dark zone itself. I'm quite curious about NASA's thinking on this ridge, and whether it has some relationship to the dark material.

    3. Re:Iapetus Ring by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Duh, it's the seam where they cut the planet open to insert the cream filling. All planets have those.

    4. Re:Iapetus Ring by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      There is an interesting image of this mountain range here. It seems to suggest that the range extends beyond the dark material, tho that area is hidden in shadow. What's interesting here is that the peeks remain clean well into the 'dark zone'. So possibly whatever formed the mountain range happened before the dark material was deposited.

      I'm glad someone else noticed this!

    5. Re:Iapetus Ring by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've noticed in a lot of the images, there appears to be a ring of mountains around most of Iapetus's equator: Here, here and here....I'm no scientest, but is it possible that this moon once had a ring system like Saturn itself? Over time the ring particles fell out of orbit and formed the mountains along the equator.

      The "ring of mountains" is indeed pretty darn odd. Never seen it on any other moon that I know of, at least not one that extends that far around.

      But, I doubt falling ring debri would cause such. The material in Saturn's rings does not add up to much if collected in one spot, for example. My speculation is that it is a shock fault caused by a huge meteor impact. However, these usually end up on the opposite side, not around the middle. Whatever it is, I bet a bunch of planetary scientists are happily scratching their heads for answers.

      And I thought the "icy" moons would prove boring. I was wrong.

    6. Re:Iapetus Ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Run for cover, Itsa Giant Space Walnut! That means giant Space Squirrels are coming for it.

    7. Re:Iapetus Ring by Angry+Toad · · Score: 1


      If the white mountain line is contiguous with the rest of the "ring" feature then the whole mess is virtually dead-on the equator. Very wierd.

    8. Re:Iapetus Ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      triple strand structure of iapetus equatorial ridge may preserve inclinational range characteristic of possible iapetus ring. also, ridge partially covers some craters but is also cratered itself indicating it formed during cratering episode from a cause external of iapetus. low mass of iapetus would result in low orbital velocity even at very low altitude, thus giving possiblity of material accumulation instead of vaporization/crater formation. interaction of possible ring material with saturn magnetotail may explain dark stain on leading hemisphere of iapetus. this is a truly amazing feature and it would also seem to have an amazing origin.

  30. All these missions seem to end... by michaeldot · · Score: 1

    ...with the probes being crashed into things.

    Whatever happened to sending them on their way out the solar system with gold discs in them containing the sounds of Earth and diagrams to show the little green men where to find us?

    Oh well, maybe it's just yet another thing George Lucas has to answer for.

    1. Re:All these missions seem to end... by snake_dad · · Score: 4, Informative
      At the risk of trollbating... Missions like Pioneer 10/11 and Voyager 1/2 were fly-by missions. They were accelerated to tremendous speeds by one or several gravity assists, and thus merrily went their way out of the solar system. More recent missions are designed to enter orbit around the targeted planet, and to achieve orbit they have to slow down a lot. It would cost a huge amount of fuel to get them going again fast enough to exit the solar system, and all that fuel would have a big impact on how much instruments could be carried along.

      Some missions (like Galileo) were indeed crashed onto the target planet to prevent them becoming a problem later, or to use the impact as a science data point. Other missions were crashed quite unintentionally.

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    2. Re:All these missions seem to end... by lime1304 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A "problem" meaning Cassini could bring microbes from Earth and contaminate another world. The purpose of crashing Galileo into Jupiter was to prevent a possible crash into Europa. Since Europa may have a warm water ocean below its icy crust, it has the possibility of harboring life. It is possible that there is now life on Mars, because it was brought there with the Mars rovers.

    3. Re:All these missions seem to end... by snake_dad · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I seem to remember that Galileo did not go through the very intensive sterilization process that the rovers went through. But there's always a chance of course...

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    4. Re:All these missions seem to end... by earthforce_1 · · Score: 1

      The two voyager missions took advantage of a rather unique alignment of the outer plants, that allowed for a grand tour. They also did a lot of the ground work in finding targets for future study with the subsequent Gallileo and Cassini missions.

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  31. 14th not the 24th by PingXao · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The Huygens probe will enter Titan's atmo on 14 January, NOT the 24th. Is it so much to ask that the dates you report are accurate?

    1. Re:14th not the 24th by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      The Huygens probe will enter Titan's atmo on 14 January, NOT the 24th.

      Oh shit! We used English time but the Euro
      Space Agency used metric time. Damn! There goes
      another one.

      -NASA-

  32. Re: Iapetus picture by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1
    http://saturn1.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/ casJPGFullS07/N00026377.jpg
    What I thought was more interesting about that picture was the streaks (mid-lower right and top middle).
    Are they particles that are part of Saturn's rings?
    (There are also several white dots and a white streak in front of Iapetus, but I assume that they are caused by artifacts, cosmic rays, or transmission problems.)
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  33. Handy we have an atmosphere by kurt555gs · · Score: 1

    Looking at this moon I am really thankfull the earth has an atmosphere, or we would be as poc marked as this moon is.

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    1. Re:Handy we have an atmosphere by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the whole breathing thing.

    2. Re:Handy we have an atmosphere by MonkeyCookie · · Score: 1

      The atmosphere does provide some protection, but many meteors still hit Earth anyways. We just don't see as much pockmarking, because the Earth's surface has lots of water (75% of the surface) and the ground is not just hard rock. Not only that, but meteor craters don't last as long because weathering, erosion, and plate tectonics.

      It could have taken billions of years for that moon to accumulate all the pockmarking. Such craters on Earth generally disappear without a trace in less than a million years.

  34. Re: Iapetus picture by darenw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Those streaks are stars, making trails as Cassini moves during the long exposure of 82 seconds.

  35. Huygens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huygens dives into Titan on Jan 14.

  36. Re: Iapetus picture by some+guy+I+know · · Score: 1

    Ah, OK, thanks for the info.
    I didn't know about the long exposure times, but I guess that it makes some sense, being so far from the sun and all.

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  37. Obviously, it's a really BIG nipple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On a really big breast.

  38. Probe Thingy by SmoothDime · · Score: 1

    That's awesome that the probe will be entering Titan's atmosphere in a couple weeks. I hope it stays alive and chills on the surface for a couple hours.

  39. Iapetus.... by Zenmonkeycat · · Score: 1
    Backgrounded!

    http://picserver.org/view_image.php/133850U4AXE5/p .jpeg

    1280 by 1024, Grayscale. All the detail is on the right side of the screen, with the picture horizontally flipped. Mac users may want to get this file:
    http://picserver.org/view_image.php/87BDBMSS2981/p .jpeg
    so the detail won't be under the icons. Sure, this could be done by anyone, but I pride myself on my uselessness(es?).

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  40. It's obviously... by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

    A dreaming god. And it's due to wake up this Friday at 2:00 PM.

  41. Re: Iapetus picture by 2A · · Score: 1

    Stars? Did you not notice that the big streak is in the middle of the shot of Iapetus? That would mean the 'star' would have had to pass between the camera the moon. I somehow can't see that being the case.

  42. Re:Stupid 6th grader. Us 7th graders know better. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In light of the original comment referring to the NASA image at: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA05423 the previous comment was not a troll but a humorous comment which referred to the "Pre-School" episode of the cartoon "South Park". For an episode synopsis, see: http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServ let/showid-344/epid-372425/.

  43. the google way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have received this message without having requested it, it is because someone attempted to use your username or e-mail address. It was mostly likely an innocent mistake, and they are not getting your password, so you can safely disregard this message.