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Desktop Search Engines Compared

nutterButter writes "After Google created a stir with its desktop search engine, other engines gained more awareness in the public eye. Slate did a comparison of them and Google was not their top pick; Copernic was. I tried it - and am quite impressed."

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  1. Re:Linux anyone? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, its got a pretty interface. To be accpeted by the linux crowd, it needs to be "GREP" with a combination of C, perl, shell scrip, and awk. Oh, and better be availble in RPM, tar.gz, and .deb. And it surely better use MySQL as a backend, with apache as the gui (if your going to have one.) We unix geeks like to demonstrate our knowledge by always doing things the hard way!

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  2. How neccessary is this for home users? by TheWart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe it is just me, but for home users, is a tool like this really necessary?
    If you do not put things in directories, and are really disorganized, I suppose it would be, but I suspect that most people are at least somewhat organized when it comes to computer files...

    Then again, my perception may be skewed, since most people I come in contact with who use computers a lot are my college friends, and they are all pretty computer literate.

    1. Re:How neccessary is this for home users? by GlassHeart · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I am pretty anal about where I put my files, yet over the years those habits and preferences do change. Thus, I might've used 'personal' in 1995 and 'prj' in 2000 to refer to personal projects. Whenever I switch machines, I don't always have the patience to restore everything (particularly stuff like archived email) from the old machine in the right places, especially if it's something as major as a Windows to Linux switch. Instead, the old stuff live in a tgz file somewhere.

      Would I ever need to search old email? Probably. Do I want to remember where every single email program I've ever used stores its mailbox files? Hell, no. If done right, these search tools can be really handy.

  3. Re:Why is desktop search so hot? by almostmanda · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The search that comes with Windows XP is a)ungodly slow b)often unable to find what you need and c)only searches file names. It can't search within chat transcripts, e-mails, or documents. Even if it could, Windows search does a terrible job of arranging the results once they have been found. There is great potential to improve upon the current local search.

  4. Re:Why would anyone trust this? by Old+Man+Kensey · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Assuming you're the kind of user with privileges to install this on your computer to begin with, every application you run already has those permissions. Any program you run has the same permissions you have when you run it, unless there are admin policies to the contrary in place. So, these apps don't inherently represent any more of a security risk than the ordinary search built into your OS.

    So, do you trust your OS vendor? If so, why, exactly? For that matter, do you really trust your antivirus vendor?

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  5. Re:Why would anyone trust this? by drakethegreat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you run a good enough system you would be running a firewall that would prevent the application from making any outgoing connections and then it won't invade anything. Then if you get scared at some point just find where the tool stores the data and delete it.

  6. Re:Why is desktop search so hot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every try using windows search to locate some piece of source code? Using Windows to find a document containing some piece of text is not very good. If you are just looking for a file named yyy or even *.jpg it is somewhat ok, but even then it has to traverse your entire directory structure.

    This means that if you want to find all mp3's on your in the twenty different file sharing programs, and didn't have the foresight to organize them all into one set of directories. Than windows is going to search every file and check if it matches the extension .mp3. That is going to be alot of disk access, so I hope you defragged your hard drive lately so that the File allocation table is all residing in one section, if not it is going to be awhile.

    The google search tool (and I assume others) keep an indexed structure of your files for fast and intelligent searching.

    It would be likely searching an entire SQL table for a record when really the record you want should be indexed to allow quick lookup.

    This may not be an issue if microsoft and Apple get their relational file systems implemented. I am pretty sure Microsofts system is far away though, although I think I heard apple and linux are closer.

  7. Newsflash by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 5, Insightful
  8. Re:Bias? by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even the sale of Slate notwithstanding, the journalistic independence Slate had was quite admirable on the part of MS; few companies would keep a news source like that on a looser leash.

    Slate was very critical of MS during the anti-trust trial, has been reasonably critical of their software (even going so far, as another user mentioned, as to reccomend Firefox).

  9. What is your CPU for? by jerometremblay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If there is *anything* that my computer can do for me, why would I want to do it myself?

    Maybe you don't trust Microsoft, but indexing and personal agents technologies are the futur.

    Don't have a closed mind.

  10. Re:Linux anyone? by theantix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To tell you the truth, I'm very glad that these sorts of companies don't yet write software for Linux. A free software solution like Beagle comes without spyware, doesn't send your information to their corporate masters, and doesn't shove ads down your throat or charge you money.

    Someday I'm sure that these crapware vendors will be producing their garbage for Linux, and dumb Linux users will be plagued with much the same sort of problems that windows users suffer today. It's almost a golden age now, knowing that the vast majority of Linux software is truly free libre software instead of the ugliness that freeware software will bring.

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  11. Re:Linux anyone? by tomstdenis · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Pays to have a capable OS...

    tombox ~ # lspci | grep -i brooktree
    0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
    0000:00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)

    From this I know I have a 878 and I would read the appropriate PDF [or grep the net since google would have the PDF index anyways]...

    I AM THE GENIOUS!

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  12. Re:Linux anyone? by Tim+C · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Someday I'm sure that these crapware vendors will be producing their garbage for Linux, and dumb Linux users will be plagued with much the same sort of problems that windows users suffer today

    Of course they will. Like them or loathe them, the adware authors are doing it for money, and so target the OS with the largest install base (all other things being equal). Once Linux or MacOS has a more appreciable market share, they'll be targetted too.

    Yes, Windows is more vulnerable to remote/local exploits, but that's not what we're talking about here - we're talking about trojans, malware-riddled software and other stuff that requires user intervention to get on to a system. If the hordes ever descend on Linux, so will the malware.