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Mandrakelinux Releases New Corporate Line

Posted by timothy on from the more-than-hanging-on dept.

joestar writes "Mandrakelinux' line of products has just been updated with two new products which are dedicated to the corporate world: Mandrakelinux Corporate Server and Mandrakelinux Corporate Desktop for x86 and x86-64 architectures. According to Mandrakesoft, these products focus on reliability and security, and will be maintained for five years. In my opinion, this release really says much about new Mandrakesoft's strategy and business. Press release here."

29 comments

  1. more mandrake by broyles · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sorry but i feel the better distros are distros like gentoo and debian where the free as in beer is still there and not out to make money

    1. Re:more mandrake by Heftklammerdosierer! · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Although Mandrakesoft's main focus has been to make Linux available to the largest number of users, the company has also acknowledged, very early, that Linux required specific adaptations to be functional in a business environment.

      "Hey you guys, with all the money? Those free Linuxes, they're no good for you. You'd better pay us to write 'Business Edition' on the box."

    2. Re:more mandrake by dchamp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There still is a Free Mandrake "Download Edition", and they promise to keep it that way. This announcement is about a version with commercial support and added features. Mandrake is a commercial company, but they're all about the Free as in Free Speech thing.

    3. Re:more mandrake by HolyCoitus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Those distributions might be better for your uses or better for the ideals of the community but distributions like Mandrake are great for everyone as well. Putting forth a product like this gives another option to a business thinking about buying Linux. A major company would never purchase something without support or a business backing it. The larger the user base for Linux, the more software that gets written for it. The more drivers there are. I'll never complain about a distribution, even if I think its goals suck.

      Really what I'm trying to say is that while I would prefer to use a Debian or a Gentoo I realize that is just an opinion. Letting others fill in different situations is optimal. Gentoo is not in a position to release a corporate edition nor do they need to be. I think that is a good thing for everyone involved.

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      That's scary.
    4. Re:more mandrake by SunFan · · Score: 3, Insightful


      As long as you are happy with MySQL/PostgreSQL, Apache, and PHP/Perl/Python/Tomcat, for example, Gentoo and Debian are very good, but these "corporate" distros are for capturing Oracle customers, BEA customers, etc.

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      -- Microsoft is the most expensive commodity operating system and office suite vendor in the marketplace.
  2. Bittorrent by tealtalon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I hope they don't plan on releasing that on Bittorrent as well. It took me longer than an ftp download to get the last release. Then it locked up my laptop during install. I went back to Debian

    1. Re:Bittorrent by HolyCoitus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't this rather off the topic at hand of having a corporate desktop? The distribution method would most likely be tailored to paying customers along with the support models that go along with it. This is not meant to be a feely available distribution.

      Your experiences with a bad download or bad hardware compatibility for the distribution certainly have no place in this thread. I generally don't complain about modding, but why was this modded insightful?

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      That's scary.
    2. Re:Bittorrent by tealtalon · · Score: 0
      The current pay model for the Club gets you a bittorrent download of the OS prior to the public release. It IMO showed how bad Bittorrent can be when there is a lack of seeders. People paid good money to get the release early. I was saying (in not enough words obviously) that I hope they have learned from the previous release experiences, and offer a better way to get the product other than a shipped CD. http://forum.mandrakeclub.com/ Look around there. I think you'll find similar complaints.

      The hardware issue I had is offtopic. The same laptop has run Fedora, Gentoo, Suse, Ubuntu, and Debian without issue, but it is still offtopic.

  3. False Advertising by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I look at the redhat enterprise series, and there was 5 major updates for Redhat Advanced Server 2.1. Now if the goal was to appeal to the corporate world with a less changing and more stable version, then 5 updates in 1 year clearly contradicts that. That's not even counting Advanced Server 3.0 updates. Let's face it, Mandrake and Redhat. You need CA$H desperately.

    1. Re:False Advertising by Heftklammerdosierer! · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, it is a subscription. Maybe they're afraid managers won't feel like they got their money's worth if there isn't an update every 2 1/2 months.

    2. Re:False Advertising by SunFan · · Score: 2, Informative

      5 updates in 1 year clearly contradicts that.

      Even Sun provides quarterly Solaris updates and more frequent patch clusters, but they at least provide long enough support timelines that customers aren't pressured to upgrade when and where Sun says. Solaris 8 is still probably the most popular version of Solaris in use, yet it is over four years old and has seen well over a dozen updates.

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      -- Microsoft is the most expensive commodity operating system and office suite vendor in the marketplace.
  4. No one cares? by WMD_88 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Only 4 comments posted in 90 minutes...looks like I'll have to Slashdot the linked sites myself.

    *CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK *

  5. Saturated? by SunFan · · Score: 1

    With Sun JDS/JES, RedHat Fedora/ES, Mac OS X desktop/server, this Mandrake desktop/server, and others (Linspire/Debian, etc.), is the UNIX market reaching saturation for number of vendors, again, or is it just taking off?

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    -- Microsoft is the most expensive commodity operating system and office suite vendor in the marketplace.
    1. Re:Saturated? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      IMHO, Mandrake is going after the market that Red Hat thinks it owns.

      6-7 years ago Mandrake went after Red Hat's desktop and small personal server market, now they're after the big iron.

      Hopefully they get it. And hopefully they don't forget about us little guys too.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  6. Commercial failure = only community by Moulinneuf · · Score: 1

    Commercial failure = only community

    No really, Debian is the very first Gnu/Linux commercial failure , before Slackware , they where in such a bad shape after not even 1 year that they add to be put on life support by the FSF.

    Gentoo is also a commercial failure , it never took out once it whas a community distribution , go talk with Daniel Robbins and the 20k of debt he add over this ...

    Mandrake-Linux is a community driven distribution , unlike Gentoo and Debian there commercial entity survived even if they add/still have idiots as manager.

    The fact you forget is that Debian is great due to its freedom and due to its community , Mandrake is twice better ( whe have KDE GPL because of them, among other things.)

    Gentoo is supposed to be faster due to recompilation but Mandrake in every test that is not riggued beat them hands down.

    And for the not after money comment , well there is money being made but not by those making the distribution. And not chomp change either something like 1 billion ( thats income not net worth )

    Take out your false rewriten history book , I will show you mine, mine as the real numbers too.

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    I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
    1. Re:Commercial failure = only community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gentoo is supposed to be faster due to recompilation but Mandrake in every test that is not riggued beat them hands down.

      Wheres the link/proof?

    2. Re:Commercial failure = only community by Moulinneuf · · Score: 1

      http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/performance.xml

      2.4 kernel for i686 vs pentium 3 kernel.

      If I recal right the p3 work better with a 2.2 kernel.

      also Gentoo people assume that Mandrake people cant do "optimization".

      I used to have 5 link explaining how Gentoo rig and assume with stats. But its on my old comp wich I gave to someone as a long time loaner.

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      I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
    3. Re:Commercial failure = only community by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Your spelling sure has improved over the last year, guy!

      Still riddled with errors, but not nearly as bad as you used to be! :)

    4. Re:Commercial failure = only community by Moulinneuf · · Score: 1

      riddle me this riddle me that I whant a kumkwat !

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      I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
  7. Too many Mandrakes. by LazyBoy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I've been a Mandrake user for several years, but they're getting too tricky for my taste. How many Mandrake lines are there now, some of which differ in download and purchase form?

    Today I discovered that my 3-CD 10.1 Official didn't have flex, bison, or rsh-server packages. They're on the 4th CD, which you can't download for free.

    Yes, there were many ways to solve this problem. But I consider these standard elements that should be on the CDs. My next upgrade will probably be to a different distro.

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    If Chaos Theory has taught us anything, it's that we must kill all the butterflies.

    1. Re:Too many Mandrakes. by dchamp · · Score: 4, Informative

      Everything on CD4 should be on the "urpmi" sources. Just add your sources from http://www.urpmi.org and install away.
      This is like someone saying they don't like Debian because there's not XYZ package on the CD. But there's tons of stuff available via apt.

    2. Re:Too many Mandrakes. by AhBeeDoi · · Score: 1

      Telling somebody that is akin to explaining the difference between free speech and free beer. It goes in one ear and out the other.

    3. Re:Too many Mandrakes. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Mandrake stopped including Pine.

      FUCKING PINE!!!!

      My *nix console email app of choice was absent from Mandrake 10.x, I had to get it from PLF because the source wouldn't compile straight away on a plain old Mandrake install.

      With that small annoyance, Mandrake is still my distro of choice.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  8. TROLL by bach37 · · Score: 1

    all the pesky Mandrake trolls are out!

  9. Pine in plf by bach37 · · Score: 1

    It's in the plf sources.

    1. Re:Pine in plf by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      I added plf to my URMPI sources so that I could install pine, but it annoys me that I had to.

      LK

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      "Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
  10. This is terrific stuff! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great, now corporations can run crap too!

    Manrape sucks.