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Ham Operator Sets New Miles-Per-Watt World Record

DoctorPepper writes "A ham radio operator in New London, North Carolina correctly copied an 80 meter CW beacon in Wappingers Falls, New York, a distance of 546.8 miles. The kicker is, the beacon station, an Elecraft K1, was putting out 40.6 uW (40.6 millionths of a Watt) -- which works out to 13,467,980 miles per watt!"

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  1. Even when it's horribly outmoded... by fussili · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ham Radio continues to excite. I think there's something romantic about it that draws geeks towards its coils - how else do you explain the way it has enthralled so many in its history? The venerable Woz is one. Can anyone else recall any Ham Radio enthusiasts who went onto bigger things in Tech?

    1. Re:Even when it's horribly outmoded... by deglr6328 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This wattage/mile efficiency thing is always a neat trick. I doubt however, that anyone can beat what must be a record of some sort: the detection of the 10 watt (mostly) non-directional radio transmitter atop the Huygens probe while falling into the atmosphere of Titan by the Very Long Baseline Array when nearly 1 billion miles away. A feat expected to be achieved next week. The power collected by one of the 70 meter dishes on earth will be comparable to what was detected from the feeble low gain antenna on the Galileo Jupiter probe. This power is in the ZEPTOWATT range. (zeptowatt)

      In addition to this, the VLBA will be used in interferometer mode (VLBI) in order to pinpoint the landing site of the probe on Titan to within 1Km!! This is equal to an angular resolution of approximately 170 microarcseconds. Thousands of times better than Hubble.

      --
      - "Hear that?! The percolations are imminent! Cease your ingress!"
    2. Re:Even when it's horribly outmoded... by palndrumm · · Score: 5, Funny

      I doubt however, that anyone can beat what must be a record of some sort: the detection of the 10 watt (mostly) non-directional radio transmitter atop the Huygens probe while falling into the atmosphere of Titan by the Very Long Baseline Array when nearly 1 billion miles away.

      Yeah, but this is a World Record - anything to do with an interplanetary space probe is an Out-Of-This-World Record...

    3. Re:Even when it's horribly outmoded... by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 5, Informative

      Outmoded you say? Here's a recent example that may make you change your mind on that one.

      http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-01-05-voa24.cf m

  2. Ummmmm by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Man A: A new record was set today

    Man B: what?

    Man A: 13,467,980 miles per watt

    Man B: What?

    Man A: Watt?

    Man B: What!?!?!?

    Man A: Watt!!!!

    Man B: Forget it, I'm not playing this stupid thing, go be an A$$.

  3. HAM Geeks by Bender_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    omg.. after reading that article I got the feeling that there are people even more geeky than computer geeks.

    "I'm thrilled the record was set by an all-American team using all-American equipment." The Ten Tec receiver is manufactured in Severville, TN and the Elecraft transmitter is produced in California and offered as a kit.


    yes, so relevant...

  4. Re:Sounds impressive by ixxi · · Score: 5, Funny

    it would be like running doom 3 on a 286.

  5. It is non-linear by frakir · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even most directional antennas will not give you linear 'watt to distance' amplification.

    In worst case it is a power^1/3. So for 40 milliwatts to 1 watt amplification you'll get some 30x distance (at worst), but never 2500x, unless some wicked atmospheric conditions happen.

  6. Miles per Watt? by c++ · · Score: 5, Informative

    This seems an odd way to compare accomplishments. If you use this metric, then you reach the false conclusion that doubling wattage doubles distance. Since signal strength deteriorates with distance squared, a better metric might be miles^2 per Watt.

    Example using round numbers. Philip transmits 10 miles using a 10W transmitter. Sally transmits 19 miles using a 20W transmitter. If you use miles per Watt to compare, it looks like Philip achieved better results, when in fact Sally did.

  7. Spread spectrum by morcheeba · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Commenting on his remarkable success, Bill said "I've spent 25 years on 80 & 160 listening to below noise level signals ..."

    Below noise signals sounds paradoxical, but people do it all the time. If you're in a noisy restaurant, you can pick out individual noises even though they are much quieter than everyone else. The key is that you have an idea of what you expect to hear - you generally know the tone of their voice, know what sounds make words, know what words make understandable sentences.

    Imagine if the signal had been spread-spectrum. Spread-spectrum signals are stealthy because, they to, can be recovered from below the noise floor. Basically, with an idea of what to expect, the receiver's processing can effectively raise the signal above the noise floor. Instead of sending short tones for each bit, a series of tones are sent for each bit (a chip) - one chip for zero, and a different chip for one. It's a lot easier process a sound and see which chip it sounds closer to than it is to see if one particular tone is there or not.

    So, in summary, this guy's brain played a lot in the reception to pick out a signal from the noise. I wonder if the next record will be set with a spread spectrum transmitted signal and a digital processing receiver.

  8. Re:Ham Radio Not Outmoded by KE6TNM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many people have made the comparison to the internet or other wireless technologies. There may be some relation if your only purpose is to talk over a distance. There is however a big difference. All of the services (internet, phone, cell phone) in use by the majority of people require network support. A ham can communicate with none. In an emergency the phone and network services can be interupted by damaged circuits loss of power or just congestion making it impossible to get a message through. The last communication service funtioning will be the hams. Real life example from a call that I relayed. Power and phones were out in a section of the city and a man's wife collapsed. Luckily he was a ham and grabed his radio. I took his info and relayed to it to the fire department and the paramedics were there withing five minutes.