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Last Manufacturer of Pro Analog Audio Tape Closes

goosman writes "Quantegy, the last manufacturer of professional reel-to-reel analog audio tape in the world has closed their plant in Opelika, AL leaving a reported 250 workers without jobs, according to the Opelika-Auburn News. Emtec (the former BASF, which used to be AGFA) was the last European manufacturer and ceased manufacuring in 2002. An audio account of the closing can be heard at NPR."

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  1. Great story by SIGALRM · · Score: 5, Informative
    Almost 60 years ago, the story was different. "In 1945, after capturing several German 'Magnetophon' tape recorders from Radio Luxembourg, the American Signal Corps recorded a speech by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower to be played to the people of occupied Germany. Due to a shortage of recording tape, the speech had to be recorded on a reel of used German tape. Due to a problem with the German tape recorder, the tape was not completely erased and the voice of Adolph Hitler was intermittently heard along with Eisenhower's voice. This caused a great deal of fear and confusion among the German people
    Wouldn't you have loved to be there for that little mishap? Here's a little more info on that story in case you're interested.
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  2. Didn't they used to be Ampex? by BigBuckHunter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or did they buy the audio division when Ampex went to "Ampex Data Systems"? If I am to believe the article, then there would be no further sources of 2" reels. There are a lot of 24 track studios out there that still use this tech.

    BBH

  3. May not be closed permanently by eap · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article says they're just closed for restructuring. This is vague, but it may not mean they are closed down permanently.

  4. I still use analogue tape! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I work at the BBC World Service, broadcasting in (approx) 42 different languages around the world - and we still use analogue tape for about 80% of our programmes! We are slowly being digitised, but believe it or not, analogue tape is great to work with, quick to edit, and extremely reliable, both for playback and archiving... I'm no luddite, but as someone who has to deal with on-air disasters, I know that tape recorders don't crash.... Our latest digital system runs on windows 2000... Say no more.

  5. Re:Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    No. You're wrong. There's a certain compression that highly-driven tape produces, which is much more complex than some lowpass filter.

  6. Re:Damn by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 4, Informative

    The finest consumer tape deck ever produced, the Pioneer RT-909, had a frequency response to 30kHz. Studio decks that record at 15 inches-per-second have response clear out to 40kHz and beyond. A CD has response to only 22.05kHz, and even studio digital equipment has a hard time working up to 48kHz.

  7. Re:Damn by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 5, Informative
    Cheap studio gear can write "24/96" all over the package but achieving that accuracy digitally is very difficult and expensive. Most low-end equipment I've managed to peek inside of contain poorly implemented clocks. In a digital system the timebase is the most important factor, but Edirol and that crowd spend $0.10 on the clock. A good clock would make "96kHz" closer to the truth, but then it wouldn't be $199 anymore.

    An actual 24-bit system has a theoretical Dynamic range of around 140dB but you'll be hard pressed to get better than 80dB with most gear. With analog recording there are at least two well-known foolproof methods to improve dynamic range and SNR: get a bigger tape, and run the tape faster. The dynamic range and SNR on 2", 32ips tape is amazing.

    And of course tape can be driven to +9dB recording levels in some cases, but a digital system will clip hard at 0dB.

    Digital is definitely the future but right digital recording has its problems. Next time you go to the record store notice how many High Resolution DVD-Audio recordings are being mastered from tapes.

  8. Re:Damn by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hello sir, I hate to break it to you, but the front-end analog electronics and jittering timebase on the Audigy limit it to dynamic ranges of around 80dB and SNR of around 60dB, giving about the same performance as a good 20-year-old cassette deck.

  9. Re:Damn by Dasein · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is multi-track tape. So you need 32 cell phones and 16 crinkly plastic bags.

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  10. Re:Okay, how is the evolution of communication new by jejones · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but you'll never beat that infinitely variable and infinitely dividable quality of analog.

    Um...if memory serves, magnetizable objects are made up of a bunch of little regions, called "magnetic domains," that are like little magnets. (A magnet just has the magnetic fields of the domains all lined up rather than in random directions.) These domains aren't infinitely small, just as photographic film suffers from grain. (Hence the cranking up of tape speed for higher fidelity, increasing the domains passed over per unit time.)

    Also, it's not clear to me that an analog medium can be written to or read with infinite accuracy--but I hope someone more knowledgeable than I am can expound on that.

  11. Re:250 people lost their jobs? by ThJ · · Score: 5, Informative

    Much more happens in a tape recorder than just the addition of noise. There is something called warping, that is inaccuracies in the speed the tape passes the playback/recording heads. There is crosstalk, that is mixing of audio across several channels. There is also the fact that the signal is being recorded with a bias to bring it into the most linear part of the tape. And then there's the most noticable effect: Compression. When you over-record a tape, you get compression, that is reduction in audio levels compared to the original levels. A digital recorder will just clip, sounding horrible. A tape recorder will do it more gently. Modern musicians and technicians are very fond of what's described as vintage sound. I need just mention the UREI LA-2A compressor, an opto-electric tube compressor, used on numerous recordings. I dare bet anyone who has ever listened to recorded music has heard the handywork of that machine, or it's digital emulations. I love the sound of warping, especially when it comes from record players. It's what I call a becoming untunedness or unstability in pitch. Creates a warm fuzzy feeling inside of me, at least. Tube equipment is popular for grunching things up a bit, the newest Korg synthesizer model, a purely digital machine in all other aspects, has a tube stage for adding an edge to the sound. Guitarists unanamously agree that tube amplifiers give the best sound... I can go on and on... But it's a part of musicians' culture, basically.

  12. How To Satisfy The Irony Police by Zach+Baker · · Score: 4, Informative
    I see that people have criticized your use of the word "irony." Irony, as it's commonly defined, is an often-misunderstood topic and many people who are familiar with it are annoyed with the misapplication of the term. Here is a guide to understanding irony that may help.
    • Irony describes a result that is the opposite of what would commonly be expected under the circumstances.
    • From that definition, you can see that there must be a common expectation in the first place. If an event happens that is merely coincidental or unrelated to the circumstances, it is "unlikely" or maybe "unfortunate" but not ironic. Even if something is coincidental in a regrettable, cynical, extreme, or unusual way, that does not make it ironic.
      • Example 1: Rain on your wedding day -- regrettable, but your wedding day has nothing to do with the weather. Not ironic.
      • Example 2: Running off with the best man on your wedding day. Ironic.
    • If an event is appropriate given the circumstances, it is "fitting" or "apropos," not ironic. Even if something is fitting in a clever or unusual way, it cannot be ironic. In fact, apropos and ironic are more or less antonyms.
      • Example 1: A traffic jam when you're already late -- something that just makes a bad situation worse is appropriate to the circumstance. Not ironic.
      • Example 2: A traffic jam on a newly-opened expressway. Ironic.
    So technically, I must say that no, the event you mentioned is not ironic but is better described as...
    [ ] extremely unfortunate
    [ ] weirdly coincidental
    [X] amusingly apropos
    [ ] oddly fitting
    [ ] poetic justice
    and I hope you find this post useful.
  13. Re:Damn by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think you'd be surprised how hard it is to do digital properly. It isn't for lack of effort, as any number of dedicated amateurs will tell you. It's just that the state of the art really is 24-bits at 192kHz, and implementing something to that standard is very very hard, and expensive. Video conversion is fast, sure, but the sample sizes are small: 8-bit is standard, 10-bit is tough, and 12-bit is a miracle. Humans are also more willing to tolerate noise in video than in audio: a decent video DAC has -80dB noise floor, whereas a decent audio DAC like PCM1794 will have a noise floor at -150dB. That's a difference of more than 1000:1.

    Timing is also much more important with audio than with video. People, for whatever reason, are not sensitive to timing jitter in a video signal, but are easily able to hear phase noise in a digital recording. Video uses faster clocks than audio, but their clocks are not as good (and don't need to be).

  14. Re:Damn by puetzk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yep. And sampling @96kHz gives you response up to 48kHz (in theory, though in principal it the last parts suffer from intonation problems if there's any jitter at all to your sampling or reproduction clock.

    Frequency distribution is a nice sharp spike at n Hz...
    | |
    | |
    |_______|__
    n

    So we'll sample at 2n Hz

    _ _
    / \ / \ - forgive the ascii art and
    \_/ \_/ pretend that was a sine wave

    _|__ __|__ - sampled at 2n Hz
    | |

    We'll even pretend that the studio gear sampled it perfectly (no clock jitter) since that gear
    is likely pretty damned good. So our digital signal is +1,-1,+1,-1 just like it should be

    But now we play it back on a cheapo walkman that doesn't have a perfect clock, so what it synthesizes is

    _|_ ___|_ _
    | |

    and after filtering, the analog signal it produces now looks like this
    _ _
    / | _/ | - again, forgive the ascii art,
    |_/ |_/ but clearly it has steeper
    sections and shallower ones
    so it's no longer a pure tone

    So the frequency distribution now looks like

    |
    | |
    |_____|_|_|
    n

    it has some frequency content to both sides of the 'real' signal (how much and how far depends on the amount of jitter present). Obviously, the signals very close to the nyquist limit suffer most from this - the lower pitches get to average the wave-shape out over multiple samples, so they will not spread out as much in the freuency domain if a point is a little off in time. But this is why the nyquist limit is not the whole story. Along with the fact that no filter is a completely sharp dropoff, this is why CD's lowpass filter to <20kHz, not at the 22050Hz Nyquist limit).

    Sampling beyond 96kHz is not (yet, anyway) mainstream gear. So I think the grandparen't claim that digital equipment works to 48kHz, but has a hard time as that limit is approached is pretty fair - that's the theoretical limit (for prosumer-grade stuff), and in practice it will have trouble near the edge.

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  15. Re:250 people lost their jobs? by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

    The big change was the advent of delta-sigma D/A converters. Old D/A converters didn't work very well because they tried to directly convert digital PCM sound. Well this meant that to get 16-bit sound (CD quality) you had to have a converter that could produce 65,536 discreet voltage states. When you ocnsider this was over a range of two volts or so, you see why this was a huge problem. It made a very harsh sound that people didn't like.

    Well the answer to the problem came from high power vairable speed electric motors. With those you also need to regulate the voltage and it turns out to be a bitch to design a stepped system that does so properly, cheaply, and efficiently. So what they did is use a different kind of control, called pulse wave modulation, PWM. What you do is take a high frequency digital (square) wave that alternates between maximum and minimum voltage, and just vary the duty cycle to give you the level of power you want. The more pwoer you want in a given direction, the more pulses that direction you have. Turns out to be real efficient, and easy to make. Only downside is it makes the device whine at the frequency of the wave.

    Well, this could be applied to audio as well. Simply vary the rate of pulse to control the output signal. The whining is solved by using a wave of sufficiently high frequency that it exceeds human hearing and speaker capabilities (usually in the MHz range). This proves to work extremely well, and eliminate the problems with digital sound. All corrent D/A converters I'm aware of use this method. You'll see it adverised at 1-bit DAC sometimes.

    Some systems, like SDSD, forgoe the conversion process and store PWM directly.

  16. Clarification on BASF and AGFA by Sir+Ancestor · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not sure about Emtec but BASF is not former AGFA!!! Badische Anilin und Soda Fabrik (BASF) is German chemical and plastics manufacturing company originally founded in 1865. Agfagevaert Gruppe, Dutch Agfa-gevaert Groep, is German and Belgian corporate group established in 1964 in the merger of Agfa AG of Leverkusen, W.Ger., and Gevaert Photo-Producten NV of Mortsel, Belg. The merger established twin operating companies, one German (Agfa-Gevaert AG) and one Belgian (Gevaert-Agfa NV, which in 1971 became Agfa-Gevaert NV). Controlling interest in the group was purchased by Bayer AG in 1981.