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New DRM Scheme To Make Current DVD Players Obsolete

Oneflower writes "ExtremeTech reports that a proposed new DRM scheme could make current DVD players obsolete. The scheme, from Hewlett-Packard and Philips, targets DVD+R and DVD+RW and is an attempt to enforce the FCC broadcast flag on DVD recorders."

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  1. So? by AviLazar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And a hack will be made, a firmware update released and in the end we will be back to what we are doing today. Not to mention this will take a LOT of time until it comes out and becomes mainstream (how many people are going to change their dvd players/recorders....meaning they won't be buying this new media format for a while)

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  2. Protecting me from who? by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    from the article, emphasis mine: Hewlett-Packard and Philips said Wednesday that they have developed a content-protection system for DVDs, designed to protect users from burning "protected" DTV broadcasts.

    How on earth does this "protect users"? It only tries to protect the bottom line of media megacorporations. Being manufacturers of the physical drive units I don't doubt they may try backtracking and manufacturing drives for stand-alone DVD players which only play +R(W) media, too, thus locking out the -R(W) media which won't work with this new scheme.[0]

    Fortunately the general public seems to be getting more tech savvy (the refusal to accept Circuit City's Divx scheme, rising awareness of spyware and solutions, etc) so hopefully people will see this as it is: a money grab.

    [0] - a bit of irony on Philips part there I think; I just picked up a Philips DVP642 DVD player which can also play divx and xvid on cdr/dvdr/etc. Surely they know the great bulk of those are downloaded.

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    1. Re:Protecting me from who? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The best part of the article comes from:
      The VCTS scheme will also be built into next-generation media, which will slowly replace the non-DRM encoded DVD+R discs over time. The new discs will be somewhat more expensive than their DRM-free counterparts, explained Jun Ishihara, a product manager for Mitsubishi Chemical Media Co., also known as Verbatim. Likewise, the new players will probably be priced somewhat higher than conventional players, HP executives said, although pricing will be up to individual manufacturers.

      "So" says the guy in the shop, "your telling me that I have to pay more for less? And this is in my best interests? Your protecting me from what exactly?"

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  3. The market will decide... by seanellis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...and they will drop this like a hot potato. Any recorder that does not allow you to get round this will be dead in the water.

    The same thing has happened with multi-region DVD players here in Europe. If it doesn't have a way to get round the illegal-restriction-of-trade technology, then people simply won't touch it.

    Every player in every store now has a hastily applied sticker saying "Multi-Region!". Once the new recorders come out, word will get around about any models that can be bypassed, and sales will take off, leaving others face down in the dust.

    And, of course, since US companies aren't allowed to do this, only overseas companies who deliver to several markets will have a legitimate excuse.

    So, congratulations, once again US legislators are outsourcing American jobs and increasing the trade deficit.

    Well done!

  4. Not going to change anything by Sargeant+Slaughter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First of all, the standard is not going to catch on. People are not going to run out and buy a new DVD player so they can buy new movies that are the same quality as the ones the already own. The only way this might work would be to outlaw the selling of the old DVDs. Thats not going to happen. Secondly, this is stupid anyway because it doesn't do anything to stop VCD/SVCDs. The majority of the downloads I see on bittorrent sites are not 4GB, they are more like 1.5 or 1 GB and they are usually Mpeg format, for burning to VCDs. I am sure some manufacturers will be able to make a version of these new DVD players that play VCDs, and they will sell! Just like the old players. The people behind that anouncement are probably just trying to appease a bunch of idiots in Hollywood.

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  5. Fine. by Max_Abernethy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You break my DVD player, I'll just go ahead and steal some of your movies from DC++, asshole. Don't you people get it? I have a finite space in my budget to spend on your shit. I don't have any more money for you, and if you make me start spending it on new hardware for your ridiculous new standards, then I won't have any left to buy your IP with.

  6. What is in it for me? by Mr_Silver · · Score: 5, Insightful
    People moved from video to DVD for one or more of the following reasons:
    1. Better picture quality
    2. Better sound quality
    3. Additional extra's
    4. No need to rewind the tape
    5. Ability to skip to certain sections of the film
    6. Smaller physical size of the DVD medium
    There are 6 keys things there that satisfy the "what is in it for me?" factor.

    Having a new format with better DRM fails this test completely. The only way it will ever get adopted is if people are forced to change - and there will be public uproar.

    In short, if they're going to want to introduce it, then they have to come up with some other features that really will make people want to "upgrade". If not, then it is pretty much dead in the water from the beginning.

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  7. Re:No Big Deal by PhilHibbs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You shouldn't have bought a Sony if you want to do anything other than play pre-recorded discs from the machine's primary region. Sony are not a technology company any more, they're a content company.