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Toyota to Employ Advanced Robots

olegalexandrov writes "Toyota Motor will introduce robots which can work as well or better than humans at all 12 of its factories in Japan to cut costs and deal with a looming labor shortage. The robots would be able to carry out multiple tasks simultaneously with their two arms, achieving efficiency unseen in human workers and matching the cheap wages of Chinese laborers, a report said on Thursday." The Motley Fool has a humorous take, and Toyota emphasizes that goodlife, err, humans will continue to have a place in Toyota factories.

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  1. Droids by TheAdventurer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think that just for my sake, and for the sake of all my fellow Star Wars fans, we should just start calling them Droids.

  2. What?!?! by bman08 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Labor shortage? How about outsourcing (insourcing?) some of those jobs to Detroit where there are surplus autoworkers?

    1. Re:What?!?! by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Labor shortage? How about outsourcing (insourcing?) some of those jobs to Detroit where there are surplus autoworkers?


      For a Japanese manufacturer, outsourcing to Detroit probably doesn't represent a cost savings or an efficiency boost.

      You don't have to pay benefits to a robot, and they work longer shifts.

      North American workers simply aren't willing to view themselves as cheap labour to pick up the slack from more expensive places to do manufacturing.

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    2. Re:What?!?! by pchan- · · Score: 3, Interesting

      North American workers simply aren't willing to view themselves as cheap labour to pick up the slack from more expensive places to do manufacturing.

      Not true. Several Japanese automobile manufacturers assemble in the U.S. a large number of the cars they sell in North America. Toyota does it (my 4runner was built in their plant in Kentucky). Honda and Nissan do it. However, they do NOT do it in Michigan, due to the low quality of the workforce there, and the strength of the UAW in that state. Car stickers (at least in California) are required to state what country the car was assembled in, as well as what country the majority of the parts were manufactured in (usually Japan).

  3. Rise of the Machines by robyannetta · · Score: 4, Funny

    Keep your eye on that one robot near the corner... he keeps mumbling something about Sarah Conner.

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  4. AARGHH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    TEHY TOOK OUR JOBS!!1111111

  5. disturbing, yes? by LiquidMind · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...with humanoid robots jamming in a brass ensemble and performing hip-hop."

    robot1: "you got e-served"
    robot2: "oh, it's (ON)/OFF"

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  6. Re:Corporate Crack by MacJedi · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The population is always decreasing.

    Yes. In Japan the population is expected to do just that.

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  7. Will these robots be buying Toyotas also by srobert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It'll be difficult for a labor organizers to organize these robots. But I'll bet it'll also be difficult to get them to act as good consumers.

  8. Welcome! by anakin357 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I for one, welcome our new two-armed manufacturing robotic friends.

    All kidding aside, technological advancements not only displace jobs, but also create them as well. There is a small difference between paying 20 robotics engineers to develop, create, and maintain the robots exorbitant salaries as much as hiring 150 "guys off the street" to do the same stuff.

    Yes, after the initial development, the costs go down, but not a whole lot. Someone needs to make sure the robots keep doing their jobs.

    From TFA:
    Japan has so far rejected calls to open up to large numbers of unskilled immigrants, fearing the effects on the country's social framework.

    So instead of using "outsourced" labor, they remove jobs by having robots do them.... almost as bad.

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  9. Re:Corporate Crack by xstonedogx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you meant to say

    "The population is always decreasing...in Japan"

  10. Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on! Someone had to say that...

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  11. Japanese Substitute Inventiveness for Immigration by Baldrson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In Japanese Substitute Inventiveness for Immigration; NYT Shocked Steve Sailer writes:
    New York Times reporter James Brooke was recently shocked, shocked to discover that the Japanese people's famous fascination with robots and automation stems from their"xenophobia." [Japan Seeks Robotic Help in Caring for the Aged Mar. 5, 2004 NYT ]

    The labor-saving device that gave Brookes the willies was Sanyo's new clamshell-shaped automated bathing machine. It allows frail people confined to wheelchairs to roll in dirty and roll out clean and dry.

    Shivered Brooke: "Futuristic images of elderly Japanese going through rinse and dry cycles in rows of washing machines may evoke chills."

    Yet the machine doesn't seem to give the shivers to its users. Toshiko Shibahara, an 89-year-old resident of a Japanese nursing home told Brooke, "You don't get a chill. You feel always warm." Likewise, Kuni Kikuchi, an 88-year-old in a wheelchair, noted, "It automatically washes my body, so I am quite happy about it. These bubbles are good for the massage effect."

    ...

    My question: doesn't the uniqueness of Japanese culture add to the diversity of the world?

    And aren't we supposed to celebrate diversity?

    Oh, excuse me, that's the wrong kind of diversity. We are supposed to celebrate the right kind of diversity--the kind where each country becomes so diverse in population, its culture so diluted by immigration, that all countries are eventually the same.

    How silly of me to forget that the ultimate goal of "diversity" is global uniformity--and monotony.

  12. They are here to protect us by Jardine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the same robot could be the pusher robot and the shover robot at the same time, doubling their protection of us from the terrible secret of space.

  13. I am very happy that Toyota are doing this by amembleton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read a few years ago about Japanese car makers investing heavily in robotics, but then didn't hear much more about it. I assumed that with the opening up of markets like China and India research had dwindled due to such low labour costs. This will require jobs to maintain and of course develop the robots. Which really are going to be mechanical arms with some basic AI thrown in.

    Toyota can spend more on design and less on the actuall production of vehicles, which will likely improve safety and performance of the vehicles. I hope over manufacturers follow suit. This should funnel more money into R&D for AI.

    Sorry, I just rambled on with thoughts there. hmmm... ...I'm waiting for the 'our new robotic overlords' jokes to start flooding in.

  14. Re:looming by RealAlaskan · · Score: 4, Informative
    If by looming labor shortage they mean layoffs

    I think that ``looming labor shortage'' refers to their looming demographic crisis.

    Japan's population is aging fast. They're getting older at the rate of one year per year, of course, but they aren't breeding fast enough to replace themselves. That's going to have lots of effects on Japan, most of them bad. One of those bad effects will be a labor shortage. You see, the number of people who are both willing and physically able to work is going to fall off as the current generation of workers gets too old to work.

    Europe is facing the same problem, and they're dealing with it via gastarbeiters. Apparently, Japan is going to deal with it using robots.

  15. Re:This will be a new industrial revolution by back_pages · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A world where there are no jobs for everyone isn't necessarily a bad thing, if societies are rearranged so that a decent living is provided for everyone and people start defining themselves not by their profession but by some other attributes.

    Get off it. It's been done before. The people were called peasants or serfs or comrades. When the people are unable to contribute to the GDP, then society has no need for the people and they are marginalized.

    The global economy abstracts the whole capitalist marketplace into two camps: producers and consumers. As long there is some population somewhere that can buy your product (maybe a tiny western European nation with a small, rich population) the rest of the world can go get bent. Crank out your product with robots or slaves or serfs or peasants and make a profit.

    Rampant capitalism is known as the black market and it doesn't work very well in the long run. The global economy isn't far from rampant capitalism, but it will work to some extent right up until the point where everybody's job has been replaced by a robot. Then nobody will be able to afford a new television, and the system will be in trouble.

    A little international labor law and careful import/export management would be help, but one thing is for certain - this is not the path to utopia where "societies are rearranged so that a decent living is provided for everyone". This is the path to peasantry, serfdom, servitude, and slavery through debt. This is the road to a life where a communist revolution starts to sound like a good idea.

  16. Re:Once again... by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But by using your same logic I could say that the Americans are more innovative and resourceful than the Japanese. Which country has 2 rovers currently on Mars that have by far exceeded all expectations? The EUs robot crashed in the atmosphere, Japan's didn't even come close to hitting Mars. You have some good points, but your examples are too narrow.
    Americans and Japanese innovate in different ways. It's pretty much always been that way since Japan became an economic power after the occupation. Americans tend to neglect a lot of the little innovations like this that can make a big economic impact, but tend to excel in huge undertakings(Man on the Moon, the Internet etc). Japan seems to be the exact opposite. Their space programs have been an abysmal failure, and yet their consumer level technology is unrivaled. Interesting to see how different cultures react to similiar circumstances.

  17. Industrial Robots by nameer · · Score: 3, Informative
    For the most part, they are talking about industrial robots . These are not C3P0 by a long shot. Even the instalation of car seats is semi-automated already. Fully automating this, while an intersting challenge, does not involve anthropomorphic robots.

    Building anthropomorphic robots for an assembly line is (in this engineers opinion) inefficient. The tool should be matched to do the job specifically at had. Hell, Toyota was one of the companies that started the buzz in Lean Manufacturing.

    I work with robots. Robots are my friends. You, sir, are no robot. Wait, I mean you, sir, are not thinking of the right robot.

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