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Tax Time Again: Any Linux Solutions?

vettemph writes "As a Linux user, I've used Intuit's Turbo Tax On The Web in the past, but I don't like paying someone $20 to $30 to submit my forms. For the last few years I've been filling out the forms by hand and mailing them for $0.37 instead. Call me cheap. The IRS has a target of 80% of all taxpayers using e-file in the near future. Does anyone know where the 'free and open' solution is? Do we need to petition the IRS? Currently the IRS seems to be protecting their 'approved e-file partners'' profit margins in the name of a security layer. (I call shenanigans!)" So how will you be doing this year's taxes? I'd settle for a good PDF editor to neatly complete the IRS's PDF forms.

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  1. Free File by captnitro · · Score: 5, Informative

    The IRS has a Free File program that a number of companies provide assuming you don't have any "special cases", that is to say, can use the basic 1040 -- don't own a business, take standard deduction, etc. I've found (whodathunkit) H&R Block's Free File program to be quite good. I did my taxes in my lunchbreak and got my refund the next week.

  2. Check back on Jan 14th by alen · · Score: 5, Informative

    I forgot where I read it, but on the 14th on the http://www.irs.gov/ they will post a full list of where you can file an electronic return for free.

  3. Tele File by xWastedMindx · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use TeleFile to do my taxes. I call a 1-800 number and it's free.

  4. Just this once... by r_cerq · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... I can say "yay, we've got something better!"

    My little corner of Europe (Portugal) actually has a good e-tax delivery system: since last year, they have a Java application (which works beautifully in Linux, FreeBSD, and OSX) freely available for download on their site. It's as easy as:

    1) Download and run the app
    2) Fill the nice, easy-to-understand forms
    3) Hit the "Check" button, and if all goes well, "Calculate", and "Save".
    4) Get the resulting file, submit it through their website
    5) Profit!

    Zero cost, and very low margin for error. And the cherry on top is: e-submissions have a larger deadline than dead-tree submissions. After they validate everything on their end, you get an official-looking confirmation note in regular mail, and you're done.

  5. Re:PDFs are there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Adobe Acrobat Reader 7 was just released which allows you to save the completed forms.

  6. Telefile or TaxAct by MCZapf · · Score: 4, Informative
    If your taxes are simple enough, just use Telefile (phone filing). They charge nothing for it. Forget Linux. Forget computers entirely!

    If your taxes are more complex maybe TaxAct will fit the bill. I've used TaxAct a few times, and they were OK. You can do everything on the web and download a finished PDF of the forms. The downside is that it's slow to do it that way. You can also download some software from them to save your data locally, but it's windows only.

  7. Intuit "Tax Freedom Project" by SeaDour · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.taxfreedom.com/

    Select taxpayers under a certain income, or with a student or military status, can use the TurboTax Web edition for free, with a free e-file for their federal return and (if their state participates in the program) one free state tax return.

  8. Re:PDFs are there... by generic-man · · Score: 5, Informative

    Acrobat 7 Linux Beta

    Adobe cares, albeit just a tiny bit, about platforms other than Windows.

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  9. Re:dual boot by kerskine · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget that the cost of WinXP and Turbotax is it self tax deductable (tax preperation expenses).

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  10. Re:Turbo Tax, AGAIN by the-banker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Keep in mind that although H&R Block may say they will accompany you to an audit, they are in no way responsible if they screw up. Tax law specifically states that liability for filing errors are the filer's responsibility unless the return is prepared by a Certified Pubilc Acct. You will notice that H&RB (and Hewitt, et al.) will call themselves "Certified Tax Preparers" or some such nonsense.

    Bottom line is that if they screw up, it is YOUR ass, not theirs. If you use a CPA, then you still have to pay the tax on any mistakes, but penalties, criminal charges, etc. are on the CPA, not you.

    Not saying that they don't provide a valuable service, but make sure the person you are dealing with is knowledgeable and understands how much risk you are willing to take.

  11. Re:Taxes? Huh! by demaria · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are some places, mostly fast or quick service food, that include taxes in the price. Businesses won't go for it because then the product looks more expensive. Deception in numbers.

    Taxes are automatically taken out of the paychecks of all but self employed people in the US. The problem is that an employer can't take out the exact amount from your paycheck because we don't have flat tax brackets, and have tax deductions. A part time job in addition to your main one may bump you up to a higher tax bracket. Your employer won't know how many dollars you deducted in mortgage interest, student loan interest, medical expenses and so forth. Most middle class and poor people either get a refund or end up paying a small amount at tax time.

    If we had a flat tax or got rid of deductions, then the need to file would be almost nonexistent.

  12. A SOLUTION: Open Tax Solver! by foobar01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some googling found me a program called Open Tax Solver. I haven't yet tried it, so I can't really say how good it is.

    A version for this years US Form 1040 has apparently just been uploaded.

  13. Re:Turbo Tax, AGAIN by jnhtx · · Score: 5, Informative
    make sure the person you are dealing with is knowledgeable and understands how much risk you are willing to take. Excellent advice.

    Four years ago I bought a Jackson Hewitt tax franchise as a hedge against the day when I'm too old to program. I'm 52, work full time as a C++ programmer, and haven't been laid off yet!

    I'm not sure about H&R, but as part of our basic price we promise to pay any interest and penalities that occur if we make a mistake. In addition, for a small charge the client can extend that coverage to include up to $5000 in additional taxes that might be levied.

    Tax filings are the taxpayers responsiblity even if God himself prepared the return. I'm sure a CPA prepared Al Capone's return, but Big Al is the one who went to jail.

    You will notice that H&RB (and Hewitt, et al.) will call themselves "Certified Tax Preparers" or some such nonsense.

    I pass a difficult exam (based on the tax portion of the CPA exam)in order to qualify as an Enrolled Agent which gives me the right to represent clients in audits and in tax court on identical basis as attorneys and CPAs. Of course EA have identical responsibilities with our attorney and CPA friends. See IRS circular 230.

    Most Jackson Hewitts have an EA or CPA available to represent client in audits.

    All you folks doing the free returns, when you get the letter from the IRS this summer let me help you get amend your return to get you out of trouble.

  14. Incredible amount of work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I happen to work for a company that makes tax software. It's a ton of work. A tax analyst (typically a CPA) and programmer team will typically have between 2 and 4 states, plus there is a team of a dozen or so that spend full time all getting approved forms (the forms must be very, very precise since they are usually optically scanned). There is a team of a dozen or so doing underlying programming for the system in general. The federal system has a half dozen people dealing with it specifically. All these people are doing this full time.
    This is not even mentioning the fact that we have a lot of integrated accounting systems that interface with it, because those don't interest you.

    If you're implying that some community should do this, I just don't see how it can happen. The knowledge is quite specialized and a ton of work is needed on a recurring basis. A LOT of testing must be done. People probably will not be willing to use a system unless there's some liability on the part of the authors.

    If you're saying that the government should provide the software, good luck. The states are all WOEFULLY understaffed; with the budget cuts in the last few years, many states have had their taxing agencies practically decimated. Most lost a lot of staff, some lost most of theirs. The remaining staff is hideously overworked, and there's practically zero programmer time available.

    What's the incentive for the government to push for something like this? There are already good products on the market, and they don't have to lift a finger to do it. If they did go thorough all that work, they'd be taking business away from companies, and they'd be taking on liability themselves for incorrect programming.

  15. www.taxact.com by Dr.+Blue · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out TaxACT. The basic "fill in the forms" version is free -- you print the resulting forms and mail them in, and it doesn't cost you anything. You can e-file for $7.95. No, it's not free, but come on -- under $8? You can barely see a movie for that these days.

    The deluxe edition is only $9.95, and it is more thorough if you have things that can give you tax breaks. I'm doing the deluxe version this year, but did the standard one last year -- I started out thinking I'd print and just do it for free, but then realized that the convenience of e-file for $8 really can't be beat...

    Since it's web-based, it works fine from Linux. One problem I had (and I've had with another web site as well): for some bizarre reason, the first screen, with the user agreement, looked entirely blank -- it was really just white text rendered on a white background. Strange. It came up fine in konqueror and firefox though, and once you get past that first screen everything seems to work fine in Mozilla (it did force me to install Firefox though, which is actually a good thing).

    Anyway, sorry to sound like an ad, but I like it, and I like that I can use it under Linux. It gives my sense of privacy a bit of the willies, but I think you're pretty well protected by law as far as that goes...

  16. Use Scribus for linux pdfs by Jack+Action · · Score: 4, Informative

    Scribus is a robust open source desktop publishing app. Editing pdfs is one of its most killer tools.