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Belkin Offering Pre-802.11N Products

redshield3 writes "Belkin is offering what it is calling "pre-802.11n" products for mass consumers now. CompUSA is reportedly carrying these items in stores. They claim 800% range improvement over 802.11g as well as full backwards compatibility and the ability to continue pushing out n-speeds when a 802.11g or 802.11b device is introduced to the network."

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  1. Real-world speed, though by invisik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So what is the real-world speed of these rated-108mbps devices? Half? Third? Anyone tested one yet?

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    1. Re:Real-world speed, though by Jozer99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would hope it is faster than the US Robotics 108 and 125 Mbs stuff. They actually add about 500 Kps to your bandwidth. :(

  2. Bad luck in past by andywebz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've had bad luck in the past with pre-standard equipment, but this one sounds pretty good. It seems to only be missing one of the features of the n standard. I thought N had essentially "wireless switching", in that the wireless bandwidth was not divided when multiple connections were established. If everything else lives up to their hype, this could be a good stop gap solution until the standard equipment comes out 3rd quater this year.

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    1. Re:Bad luck in past by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If the 802.11n does make these no compliant you could pick them up cheap for say a point to point connection. If fact if the real 802.11n does not work with them it could even be a plus.

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  3. Linux by maeka · · Score: 4, Interesting
  4. Re:Fry's Electronics by Araxen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They are not guaranteeing that they will be firmwire upgradeable. There are 2 standards at the moment and if the wrong standard is chosen and ratified the pre-N stuff will non-firware upgradeable.

  5. It's all bul-honky by BlackErtai · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I worked for Staples over the break, and let me tell you, this stuff is just as bad of quality as Belkin's b/g wireless equiptment. Don't fall for their "Join the Pre-N Revolution" crap, just wait for Linksys or Netgear to release some certified 802.11n equiptment. Belkin's wireless products are definitely the bottom of the barell when it comes to consumer networking equiptment.

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  6. Remember Belkin's popups? by havaloc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remember, this is the same Belkin which randomly tried to sell you Censorware.

  7. Re:Fry's Electronics by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think the firmware should be upgradeable, the question is whether Belkin should be trusted. I've avoided buying any of their products after they've made a firewall that deliberately served up adware.

  8. Re:My Clients don't complain about speed by StarWreck · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I had been drooling over the Omni-directional 7dbi High Gain Antenna's from Linksys to replace my standard Linksys antenna's and at the same time contemplating making a "Cantenna" to connect to a friend's network about a mile away... until I saw yesterday evening that CompUSA is now offering an Omni-directional 9dbi High Gain Antenna set. They are truely massive, the biggest I've ever seen thats not available only on the internet.

    If Belkin's pre-802.11n technology can really increase range by 800% using the same standard antenna's and I replace those antenna's with the Omni-directional 9dbi High Gain Antenna's, I may not need to make a "cantenna" anymore.

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  9. Re:My Clients don't complain about speed by John+Courtland · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't bother with an omni if you're going to just link up with a friend. Get some used Primestar dishes and build a nice bi-quad antenna on the end where the focal point is. You'll bleed off a lot of power going the wrong direction, you may interfere with neighbors (if you don't care, then that's great), and lastly, you aren't exposing your wireless link to common passers-by with malicious intent.

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  10. Consumers? by DroopyStonx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone else disturbed by the fact that people are referred to as "consumers"?

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  11. Don't buy from Belkin by cabalamat2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Remember, these are the guys who tried to sell you deliberately non-working kit.

    I don't buy from Belkin. I hope you choose not to, too.

  12. I own one of these... by uvsc_wolverine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got one of their Pre-N routers last week, and I like it quite a bit. The range is awesome, the web-based intergace is great, and the WAN port has a programmable MAC address. I'm enjoying my new router quite a bit.

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  13. Wi-Fi.org: early g products didn't meet standard. by MojoStan · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Well, it seems to work for 802.11g now, which will continue to work once 802.11n is ratified.

    The Wi-Fi Alliance issued a press release last October ("Wi-Fi Alliance Will Not Certify Pre-Standard 802.11n Features") that says some pre-standard 802.11g products did not meet the final standard. I guess the earliest adapters got burned.

    Other highlights from the press release:

    • The Wi-Fi Alliance will not certify 802.11n products until the standard is ratified.
    • The 802.11n standard will be completed in approximately November 2006.
    • "Pre-standard products always present an inherent risk for technology adopters"
    • "Vendors took advantage of unsuspecting buyers when they touted pre-standard technology for 802.11g that later did not meet the standard. Left unchecked, the industry is unfortunately poised to repeat itself with 802.11n."
    Does the Wi-Fi Alliance's opinion mean shiit anyhoo?
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  14. Re:Wi-Fi.org: early g products didn't meet standar by GeorgeMcBay · · Score: 2, Interesting


    The 802.11n standard will be completed in approximately November 2006.


    If the standard won't be completed until November 2006, standards-compliance doesn't even become a factor for me.

    I'm already pretty happy with my 802.11g gear, but if I were to go buy new stuff, I'd buy pre-N gear known to work together for my current systems. I can't really be bothered to worry about if the gear will be compatible with the "real stuff" almost 2 freakin' years from now... If the standard were right around the corner.. maybe.

    Of course, YMMV, obviously I'm looking at this as a consumer and it doesn't apply for big 100+ computer enterprise networks, where you do have to worry about long term compatibility.