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Gigabyte's 3D1 brings SLI to a single card

An anonymous reader writes "Gigabyte have implemented nVidia's SLI on a single graphics board, dubbed the "3D1." The card features two GeForce 6600GT cores (I would imagine two 6800 cores would draw too much power and create too much heat for a single PCB.) Hexus.net have a review of the board, which in various tests was able to compete with a 6800GT, but will it be marketed at a favourable price? You may also want to read Hexus' article - 'An Introduction to SLI' - for a look at how SLI technology works."

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  1. PCBs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are PCBs available which have a thicker copper layer thus are able to be used for even higher current. You can make PCBs for some 100s of Amperes.

    1. Re:PCBs by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Informative

      The question is not moving the power around, it's dissipating that much power. Useless to have 100 amp traces if the load gets so hot the solder melts.

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    2. Re:PCBs by swv3752 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A regular 6800 sometimes requires 2 molex connectors. Now building a SLI 6800 would need 4 molex connectors and probably need a 400w+ Power Supply just to provide the needed amps. That is a lot of power going to a single pcb card. It would be difficult to dissipate that much heat. Plus you might need special bracing just to support the card from the weight of hefty heatsinks you will need.

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  2. Re:So, by stupidfoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    This card requires 16 PCI-Express lanes. So, you would first need a motherboard that gives you 32 lanes. I don't believe one currently exists. Is there a limit in the PCI-Express spec?

  3. Re:So, by Peldor · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can already do that in terms of "having the power of 4 6600 chips". Just SLI two 6800 Ultras. Same number of total pipes. Probably faster memory too.

  4. Anandtech review by asliarun · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anandtech has a review on the same.
    Source: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2315

  5. Anandtech not too impressed. by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Informative

    Anandtech didn't seem to be too impressed by this solution.

    From Anandtech: Unfortunately, in light of the performance tests, there really isn't much remarkable to say about the 3D1. In fact, unless Gigabyte can become very price competitive, there isn't much reason to recommend the 3D1 over a 2-card SLI solution. Currently, buying all the parts separately would cost the same as what Gigabyte is planning to sell the bundle.

    The drawbacks to the 3D1 are its limited application (it will only run on the GA-K8NXP-SLI), the fact that it doesn't perform any better than 2-card SLI, and the fact that the user loses a DVI and an HD-15 display connection when compared to the 2-card solution.

    Something like this might be very cool for use in a SFF with a motherboard that has only one physical PCIe x16 connector with the NVIDIA SLI chipset. But until we see NVIDIA relax their driver restrictions, and unless Gigabyte can find a way to boot their card on non-Gigabyte boards, there aren't very many other "killer" apps for the 3D1


    They pretty much say Stick with true SLI unless size restraints force you into a single card solution

  6. Some numbers for you by Smilin · · Score: 5, Informative

    You should find this board outrunning the 6800Ultras. This is basically a $400 board outrunning a $500 board (that goes for as much as $600 depending on brand/features).

    The lowdown (using individual boards here but the dual is about the same):
    Doom3 1600x1200:
    6600GT SLI = 77.1fps, Cost = $376 (188x2)
    6800Ultra = 73.9fps, Cost = $489

    According to a great article on www.Anandtech.com it doesn't really outperform two individual boards though. It may be wiser to get a single 6600GT now and SLI later.

    This board somewhat defeats one of the great features of SLI: future upgrades. The idea is you can buy a "good" card today and at some point when it gets a little bit dated you can add more performance at a lower future cost.

    However, a single board SLI solution should help offset the nasty cost of an SLI motherboard right now. The NF4 SLI boards are running about $100-$150 over where they should be simply due to shortages (spanking new product overdemand).

    $255, Gigabyte NF4 SLI mobo
    $188, 6600GT today
    $59, 6600GT 2 years from now (Based on the cost today of a $200 graphics card two years ago, the GF4 4200)

    Total: $502

    Or you can opt for 6600GT performance today and tomorrow without SLI in the picture:
    $149, Gigabyte NF4 non-SLI mobo
    $188, 6600GT today
    $269, 6800Ultra 2 years from now (Based on the cost today of a $500 graphics card two years ago, the GF 5900 Ultra)

    Total: $606

    As you can see even with the badly overpriced SLI motherboards it's still a better deal in the long run. If SLI motherboards get back to reality you could see the savings increase from $104 to ~$200 as well but that's just speculation.

    References:
    All new prices are from www.newegg.com. For the older boards (4200 & 5900U) that are not available at Newegg I used pricegrabber. Anandtech was used for the benchmark and 2 year old reference articles.

    1. Re:Some numbers for you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It also wouldn't work. The nVidia GPUs aren't capable of more than 2-way SLI. This capacity is already taken up by the two GPUs on the gigabyte board. Notice the board doesn't have the plug for the SLI connector at the top.

  7. Re:Something bugging me about SLI... by NerveGas · · Score: 2, Informative


    You don't need a full x16 slot. Tests have shown that you don't see any performance drop with a single card until you're in an x4 slot - two x8 slots are much more than enough for current-generation video cards.

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  8. A Much Better Review Here by Hack+Jandy · · Score: 3, Informative

    A much better review is to be had here:
    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2315

  9. Review by Hanners, same as the site crashing. :) by digitalwanderer · · Score: 2, Informative

    And just for the record, this is Hanners (Andy Hanley) first time breaking the new site he works at Hexus. :)

    He used to love crashing Elite Bastards all the time, but this is his first official time crashing Hexus.

    I'm so proud of him I could cheer, he's one of the good guys. :D

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  10. Re:Why? by swv3752 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am not talking about max resolution, which varies from 1280x1024 up to 1600x1200, but the highest resolution that will display clearly.

    It is the rare 17" that can have a pixel density that is high enough to display 1280x1024 with no blurriness.

    I have a Relisys 17" monitor that has a max resolution of 1600x1200, but can only display withour blurriness up 1152x864.

    A lot of recent 17" monitors had only a max res of 1280x1024. Running at 1600x1200 is nice theory but only those with 21" displays are likely to do so.

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