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Texas Goes After Student Spammer

A number of people wrote in with this story: "Count Texas in the growing list of states fighting spammers with CAN-SPAM. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott filed the lawsuits today, charging a University of Texas student (and a cohort in California) with sending out millions of unsolicited commercial emails under the pseudonyms PayPerAction and Leadplex, among others. Spamhaus rates PayPerAction the #4 spammers in the world."

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  1. Better not mess with Texas by elecngnr · · Score: 4, Funny

    They still have the death penalty in Texas, right?

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    1. Re:Better not mess with Texas by isometrick · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're telling me! I was just sitting on the can reading Slashdot, and right after the words "Texas Goes After Student ..." I was running out the door flailing with a trail of TP dragging behind me.

      I didn't specifically remember doing anything wrong, but the targeting of the title was a bit too close for my brain in the early morning!

      Damn you, "a number of people", damn you to hell!

  2. How to end Spam... by ralphart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.

    Probably something stupid.

    1. Re:How to end Spam... by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except no politician ever reads his own mail. They have secretaries to filter it for them, so they've no idea about the scope of the spam problem.

    2. Re:How to end Spam... by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.


      1. They probably don't read their own email, if they have an email address. Their families probably do though, which leads to...


      2. In the words of Napoleon Dynamite..."they probably already ARE!" I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.


      I think that they just have bigger fish to fry.

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    3. Re:How to end Spam... by Halo- · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actually, most politicians have "secret" personal accounts as well. My wife used to work at capital in DC. The main $congressman@house.gov account is monitored by staff, but there is usually also something nondescript like rxq223@house.gov which goes to them personally.

      You'd also be amazed how many people you have heard of are reachable at some simple variation of $theirname@yahoo.com. When I was helping add a candidate's address book into a database, I had to keep asking if certain entries were a joke. (e.g. "you're kidding, I can mail Janet Reno at janetreno@yahoo.com and it's really her?!?")

      (obviously I made all the email addresses in this post up, so don't try mailing them... :) )

    4. Re:How to end Spam... by SilverspurG · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.

      But you shouldn't. It's a clear violation of consumer protection laws.

      Take real world spam: junk mail. I've lived in my current location for less than one year. I've purposely misspelled my address on a number of forms (Holyhock instead of Hollyhock) just so that I could monitor junk mail. I have given the misspelled address to only a handful of places: three banks and my insurance carrier. I asked all of them, at the point of signup, if they share their databases with anyone else. The answer, of course, has always been "no". Guess what? I'm receiving junk mail at "Holyhock".

      Electronic spam is no different. If you're getting spam it's because someone has violated their agreement not to share your information with anyone else.

      Too bad the existing laws don't work for us--and new ones won't do any better.

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  3. Re:Book em, Danno. by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like to know what this kid's major was.

    Obviously Business with an Ethics concentration.

  4. Only 4th? by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

    "According to watchdog group SpamHaus, PayPerAction is the fourth-largest spam operation in the world."

    Only fourth? The boy can't be a native Texan, then. Must be a Yankee immigrant.

    (If you can't tell the difference between humor, flamebait, and troll, don't mod this.)

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    1. Re:Only 4th? by El+Torico · · Score: 2, Funny
      May favorite part of the article,

      Local resident Dewey Coffman received one too many spam e-mails and finally did something about it. He archived and forwarded spam messages over to the AG's Office. His main concern with spam in general for his children.

      "A lot of the pornography content is offensive and that is what has concerned me the most. You can't even let the kids in the room when your reading e-mail because some the spam contains that and it will flash up on your screen before you have a chance to get rid of it,- DADNABBIT" Coffman said.

      OK, I added the DADNABBIT part. Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

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    2. Re:Only 4th? by The+Salamander · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

      They had him on the news last night (in Austin) and he looked like your average
      computer geek. Perhaps he'll post on /.?

      They also showed the spammers 400k+ house and beamer parked out front.

    3. Re:Only 4th? by hawk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only fourth? The boy can't be a native Texan, then. Must be a Yankee immigrant.

      Nah. THat's by quantity. These were *big* spams.

      err, about somethign supposedly big, at least.

      hawk

  5. PayPerAction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    do you see the irony that this guy really may end up having to pay per action?

  6. Re:Book em, Danno. by ralphart · · Score: 2, Insightful

    His major? Saw in the Dallas Morning News it was Philosophy. There's a sad joke somewhere in there.

  7. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ah, another "we can't do more than one thing at a time" post. If we can seek to defend trees and whales and hungry people (and anything else "in decline," as you put it), all at the same time, why is defending the uncluttered use of the internet not viable? The rapid exchange of information, un-bogged-down by crap like spam, is a vital part of the productivity and efficiency that allows us the free time and resources to take care of "things in decline."

    Look! I'm typing, drinking coffee, watching news about landing on Titan, reading slashdot, petting my dog, and using the internet instead of burning gas driving to an office all at the same time. Wreck the net, and I'm back on the road.

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  8. Re:Two ways by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, they figure if you don't want Viagra then you may be interested in their other products such as v14gr4 or V.!agri.a or ^i4.r4. Don't forget Cialias or C14l1$ or !4l1s soft tabs. My spam consists of someone advertising their porn webcam, shady pharmaceutical sales pitches, mortgages, and premium replica Rolex watches. They must think I have nothing better to do than buy a house and sit around taking viagara while jerking off to some slut's webcam and using my replica watch to alert me to when I should get up to get food.

  9. Re:How did this take so long to get detected? by gorbachev · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, until recently spamming, in itself, has been quite legal. You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

    Since the various anti-spamming laws have come to effect the problem has been lack of enforcement.

    The only real deterrent so far has been civil suits filed by ISPs such as Microsoft (Hotmail and MSN), Earthlink and AOL to name to most active litigators of spammers. The civil suits have been very effective, but do not usually land the perps in prison (other than that Buffalo spammer who was dumb enough to use stolen credit cards to pay for the Earthlink accounts he spammed from).

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  10. Re:Yes, by isometrick · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, almost a third of the people on death row are white. I can't say anything about their financial status, though.

  11. Re:How did this take so long to get detected? by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

    Or of the spammer made unauthorised use of someone else's computer to send spam... No, no, you're right, spammers don't do illegal things like that.

  12. State resources? by catdevnull · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if the student used his student accounts and/or UT's bandwidth the propagate his spam? If so, that's a DOUBLE whammy!! The state could have his proverbial ass for misuse if they can't get him on the spam charges.

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  13. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by keath_milligan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been done. He lives in Deep Eddy - an trendy, expensive part of Austin in a house that is appraised at $450k (which is maximum value a house can be appraised at in that neighborhood - it actually worth quite a lot more). He also had (at least at one point) a shiny new Jag in the driveway.

  14. Spamming Countries by Tom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And before the usual trolls roll in to claim that most of the spam is from China and whatever:

    Top 10 Spammer Countries

    If you're too lazy to look, the US is 1st with over 3 times the score of the 2nd place, which is indeed China.

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  15. Re:Yes, by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not in Texas, the population here is about 50% white, 35% Hispanic, 10% Black, 5% all others. In the biggest cities of Houston and San Antonio Hispanics are more than 50%.

    Plus, crime statistics in the USA have been known not to follow the population ethnic mix for a long time.

  16. Re:Book em, Danno. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, I don't have a problem with spammers getting nailed against the wall just like everyone else; but something just occurred to me:

    Why is it when this college kid breaks a law (spam), Slashdot is ready to fire him out of a cannon, but when a different college kid breaks a different law (DMCA, DVD CSS, Apple trade secret lawsuits, insert other offense here), they rush to his defense?

    I understand the whole "freedom of information" angle, but the law is still the law... until it is repealed and there is much rejoicing.

    Besides, maybe this spam asshat was just trying to spread the freedom of v!agr@ and the lowest m0rtg@g3 rates!

    (proceed to mod me into oblivion...
    ...wait for it...
    ....now.)

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  17. i work across the hall from leadplex by hax0r_par · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We've known Leadplex were spammers since day one.

    All these shady guys used to be walking in and out of Leadplex all day, it looked more like a drug ring than an actual business. I work over at Simpler-Webb and smoked a lot of cigarettes with the spammer guys. Most of them aren't intrinsically bad, but that Ryan guy (i'm assuming it was him) acted REALLY shady all the time. I went over to their company one day just 'looking for someone' and when he came to the door he seemed pretty freaked out someone he didnt know was coming to his office. For a while we thought it was a porn studio because they had so many fine girls going in and out of there all day, hell it might've been porn as well. Who knows. A week or so ago we say them moving a lot of boxes out, and a couple of days ago a camera crew showed up trying to get the spammers to come out and this was the first time we had ever seen the lights off in their office. Definetly shady stuff, hard to believe we work DIRECTLY across the hall from the worlds #4 spammers.

    All in all, glad to see these guys getting put away, I need less spam in my mailbox for sure.

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