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LiveJournal Servers Go Down

Wind writes "According to any journal hosted off of LiveJournal.com, the LiveJournal data center Internap has suffered a critical power failure, leaving all of LiveJournal and its content temporarily offline and requiring the revival of 100+ servers. Perhaps Six Apart wasn't quite prepared for the responsibilities of a website of this size? Updated information is posted here."

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  1. Internap is *down*? by MightyTribble · · Score: 5, Informative
    Internap *down*?
    Bush just appointed Internap's CEO to his National Infrastructure Advisory Council, yet the man can't keep a co-lo facility switched on.

    I'm not sure what that says of Bush or of Interap. And it certainly doesn't seem to have anything to do with SixApart.

  2. Please, Please, Please! by La+Camiseta · · Score: 3, Informative

    Use the Coralized link. No sense in crashing their status page. Plust it'll respond a lot quicker than loading the actual web page.

  3. Disclaimer: I am Not an Electrical Engineer by ebooher · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know nothing of how InterNap is set up. I just want to throw that out there ahead of time. Now, it's time for my patent pending "Bull Shit Theory of the Day."

    Ok, here is the rant. I used to work for a Colocation facility. Nothing special, small by Telco terms. The whole facility only had about 1500 cabinets. (Though I hear they are now full, and going to be expanding.)

    We had a main power draw off of the local grid. We had a backup power draw off of the *next* cities power grid. (ie, when all the offices around us went dark, we still had power.) And you don't even want to know the kind of red tape we had to go through for *that* pull. I'm still not sure how they did it. We had fly wheel kinetic electricity storage systems, battery backups, and a diesel engine from a train so large it had it's own building.

    We used to joke that if we lost power, we had more important things to worry about. And again, we were small time compared to some of the massiveness that is out there. *cough*AADS Chicago*cough*

    So I'm kind of in agreement with the statement currently on LiveJournal. It's unknown to me how any self respecting colo facility can say "We've had a power outage that also took our redundant systems."

    I have to call bullshit on that entire train of thought. If that's true then they don't *have* any redundant systems, and I'd be looking for a new provider. The most likely thing (at least in my mind) is that someone, somewhere got mad at something specific and decided to make a point by popping the main breaker to their portion of the facility.

    Oh, that was another thing, each room had several "main" breakers. It took a hell of a power surge to pop all of them, and the Liebert systems had power filters of some kind, really really big capacitors or something I think, so a surge really never made it to the other side anyway, it got stored in the cap and then trickled out like the rest of the power.

    But I was a UNIX admin, not the EE that was planning the power generation aspects of the facility. So take some of it with grains of what ever white powdered spice you prefer.

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    1. Re:Disclaimer: I am Not an Electrical Engineer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      My friend's company is hosted by internap. Today he messaged me when the power went down. It was only power to the second floor, my friend's servers, while cut off to the internet were still running (on the 3rd floor). Internap has redundancy and backup generators (and enough fuel onsite to run for 30 days without external power). Apparently there was construction occuring on the second floor... my guess is that some dipshit contractor cut through a power cable or 3 and took the whole floor down.

      To all the people accusing LJ of being stupid for not having UPS systems, Internap has 3 fully redundant power systems (yes, I know, didn't help much) so most people probably don't feel the need to run their own ups.

  4. Re:./ed !!!! Server Reboot Time? by bradfitz · · Score: 5, Informative

    At this point all my whiteboards are full of boxes of each database cluster, the machines in that cluster, which have passed their checksum tests. (innodb checksums each 16k page), which replayed their replay/undo logs, where in binlogs each was writing/reading/executing etc...

    So lots of waiting now on the checksum validators. I don't want to put a machine back in and find out in a week there was a database page that was corrupt because the battery-backed write-back cache on the RAID card didn't work as advertised. (which happens on about 95% of RAID cards, in my experience, because they're mostly crap, even the most expensive ones...)

    Also whenever there's any doubt about something's integrity, we backup or snapshot the potentially corrupt version before operating on it. That operation can take time too.

    It's going to be a fun night.

  5. Before you get all down on LJ... by Bloodlent · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just remember it's not ALL obnoxious, over-emotional teen-angst teenage girls. I use mine to showcase (non-depressing)poetry and make intelligent comments about intelligent topics. Basically, if someone makes an LJ about their own life, it sucks. If you can manage to write an LJ and make it about things that matter to more people than just you(ie, "Why Bush's Iraqi war is unjust" vs. "Why this babe I know should bang me"), and at the same time make it funny and enjoyable to read, then you have a good LJ. Most LJs DO suck, but there are some diamonds in the rough.

  6. Re:./ed !!!! by Hooded+One · · Score: 3, Informative

    You do realize that LiveJournal handles far more traffic than Slashdot, and when Slashdot got linked on the front page of LJ, Slashdot started spewing out errors (more than normal).

    Oh hey, Slashdot just went down as I was typing this. Smooth.

  7. Re:./ed !!!! by Hooded+One · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Alexa link was the only tangible example I could find. I distinctly recall seeing a post by Brad himself mentioning how much more traffic LJ handles, but obviously I can't link to it at the moment.

    Anyway, as of Google's last crawl of the stats page (shortly before the outage), there were almost 6 million LJ users, a little under half of those "active." I don't know if /. has any stats available, but skimming through this page, the highest UID I see is in the 800,000 range. I'm not going to even attempt to guess what the relative activity level of LJ users is compared to /., or which has bigger pages or whatever, but I would offhand say that LJ probably handles more image traffic (user pictures, and now the in-testing photo hosting service). I know they used to use Akamai for that, but I seem to recall that fairly recently they switched over to doing something else. (I think they handle it themselves again, but I'm not sure.) There's also the audio files from phone posts. I'd say there's little question that LJ is the more heavily trafficked site.

    Besides, a lot of the DB load on Slashdot is eased tremendously by Memcached, developed by... Danga Interactive, i.e. LJ. Wikipedia uses it too, and just started using Perlbal. (And I do mean "just") Ditto for Audioscrobbler/Last.fm. So /. isn't in much of a position to pooh-pooh the technical ability of Brad/LJ.

  8. Re:slashdot has repeated 503 errors, by elemental23 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Perhaps you're new here, but italicized text in Slashdot stories is written by the story submitter. Editorial comments, if any, are not in italics. In other words, Michael didn't say anything at all in this story.

    That said, the story submitter is clearly trolling himself, as neither 6A's nor LJ's staff had anything to do with the massive power failure at their co-lo.

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