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Autonomous Model Glider Flies from 60,000 Feet

saccade writes "A couple years ago we read about a telemetry laden balloon launched to 80,000 feet single-handedly built by a laid-off engineer. Here's an even more elaborate one built at around the same time: A balloon launched model glider taken to about 60,000 feet that autonomously finds its way home. It had an auto-pilot and elaborate mission control system. Also impressive is the extensive testing done before launch."

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  1. Pretty rudimentary by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It can correct its flightpath, but it can't react to obstacles. A cliff would kill it, as would a tree.

    What would happen if we dropped something intrinsically warm like a slab of uranium on Titan

  2. Amateur guidance system? by Saeger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quick! Somebody call the Dept of "HomeSec" on this evildoer, before he makes his "homing glider" plans available to terrerhists like that DIY cruise missile guy tried to. And if they find any Estes model rocket engines in his home (while he's away, of course), I they throw the book at him!

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    1. Re:Amateur guidance system? by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What would be the point? The technology to do this is already available all over the world; heck, most of it is actually manufactured elsewhere.

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  3. Re: 1 kg "Payload" - but still very scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No it doesn't, you americans are so paranoid. Just stop invading every middle eastern country your president can pronounce and you wont have a bunch of terrorists who hate your guts, works for the rest of the world.

  4. Re:Dangerous? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    what is stopping? nothing really.
    what's stopping them from gassing some public place? nothing really.
    what is stopping a not-fit-for-driving driver from driving into a crowd by accident ? nothing really.

    what COULD stop an intelligent man from turning the hell loose if he was determined, except maybe luck? personally i'm surprised how the big nations leaders can stay alive so well(proves that the world isn't as dark as you might think at first, there isn't a whole lot of people who are determined in breaking shit up like that, or that typical terrorists are narrow minded or uneducated.. which pretty much could be true, if you weren't narrow minded you'd find something more enjoyable to do).

    just get over it.

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  5. Last Launch - Sept 6 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    /.'s a little slow getting the headlines these days?

  6. Send it to Mars! by FuturePastNow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Research like this bodes well for future exploration of other planets. A glider, or better yet a powered aircraft, can cover more ground in an hour than Spirit and Opportunity have in a year. With the communications delay, it would have to be autonomous.

    Landing to conduct experiments would be a one-time deal (unless it can take off again), but such a vehicle could do great recon for future rovers or human explorers, in addition to all sorts of atmospheric experiments.

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    1. Re:Send it to Mars! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      plus we would need to get the Mars GPS in place first.

    2. Re:Send it to Mars! by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The rovers are slow because they are doing near archeological level of meticulous detail. Scrape here, measure this, run a spectrometer on that, take pictures and move to the next rock. Solar power doesn't afford a lot of power either.

      With an airplane, you need to have good landing and takeoff areas, I'd hate to see the plane stuck with some unexpected obstacle. Taking off and landing every so often, with heavy equipment in thin martian air doesn't sound like a recipe for success. Just staying in the air with just a camera seems pointless if you could use a mapping satellite.

  7. Odds... by narl · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There's only about 0.0001% of the population that's angry, desperate & psychopathic enough to consider acts of terruh, times about 0.001% smart enough to plan an overly-complex scheme, times 0.1% motivated enough to follow through, times 50% odds of success. (So, worry about dying in a traffic accident instead.)

    Uh, I don't know if you meant this to be intentional, but taking your "Drake's equation" and the last number I remember hearing for the US population:

    (0.0001*0.001*0.1*0.5) * (population of US: ~200 million) = 1

  8. nm being nautical miles... by PornMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that you were being cute, but figured some people wouldn't pick up on it.

  9. Re:Dangerous? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "I guess I'm just glad that when it "finds its way home" it doesn't define "home" as "the White House Lawn" - and that the laid-off engineer who built it isn't angry with the world."

    Maybe I'm being incredibly naieve here, but wouldn't the payload for something like this have to be really really small? If true, what could he possibly do that is a larger threat than something less sensitive could be?

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  10. Re:Dangerous? Not likely. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    To use this technology to "bomb" a target one would require a much larger payload capability than the design currently has, if ones intention were to do any serious destruction. This would require a much bigger glider. A larger, slow moving target would be easily detected by todays radars.

    I wish Americans still had the freedom to experiment with such technology. Unfortunately, American freedoms have become severely curtailed for the political benefits they provide to the Republican Party. Notions of expanding freedom and democracy are now only to be used in muslim countries. Oh how far and how fast we have fallen.

  11. Re:Dangerous? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But all it takes is one.

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  12. Re:Dangerous? by lampajoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The world IS a dark place. This stuff is happening all the time and it's going to keep happening, except so far it's been more economically efficient for terrorists to do things in more low tech ways. Your analysis of the terrorist psyche, if there ever could be such a thing, is pretty much wrong. Terrorists tend to be more educated than the average person and come from affluent families. Bin Laden, the arch-terrorist, is a perfect example, educated and extremely rich. Congress did a report on it in 1999 where they came to this conclusion. There are exceptions of course, tamil tiger child suicide bombers aren't educated or rich, for example but hardly anyone in sri lanka is. Your judgement of terrorists as narrow minded because they don't "find something more enjoyable to do" is tautological and thusly contains 0 information. The congressional report on who becomes a terrorist found that terrorists, on the whole, are sane and thus respond to conditions in the real world. Sane people don't knowingly sacrifice their lives unless they feel they have no other choice. Perhaps this guy should "just get over it." OR he could try to get into place a federal government whose foreign policy(economic and martial) wouldn't encourage people to commit terrorist acts.

    More important than all this is that there is so much counter-terrorism work going on behind the scenes that we never hear about. We're not going to hear about failed assasination attempts on presidents unless it's completely impossible for it to be covered up. They don't want to encourage copy cats. You shouldn't assume something isn't happening just because you don't know about it.

  13. Re:Dangerous? by phliar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    what is stopping somebody ... from flying a plane like this loaded with explosives to a high-profile target such as the White House...?

    Nothing.

    We need to realise that we cannot have perfect security from our neighbours. Love they neighbour, so that your neighbour loves you. That's the cost of being social animals, and of living in society.

    Sure, there will still be crazy people, nothing we can do about that.

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  14. Re:Dangerous? by serutan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can never eliminate the risk of terrorism. All you can do is minimize it. Some believe in locking down everything and everybody and trusting a few people with the keys. Others believe a truly free society produces fewer people inclined to cause trouble. The philosophy Americans live under depends pretty much on who raises the most campaign money.