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Andrew Tridgell Joins OSDL

rumba writes "OSDL announced today that Andrew Tridgell, Samba developer, joins OSDL as the lab's second appointed Fellow. Tridgell will continue to lead global development work for the Samba project."

112 comments

  1. Fear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    And it happened on his birthday! Happy Birthday AT!

    TIAT

  2. Mirror by jonno317 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since it appears the site is already bogged down.. Link

  3. Does this mean.. by aurb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..that Samba will be integrated into the kernel?

    1. Re:Does this mean.. by msh104 · · Score: 1

      well, there is smb/cifs stuff in the kernel, but the server will not ever be in the kernel. the samba server belongs in userspace.

    2. Re:Does this mean.. by armyofone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's hope not. Best to keep the kernel small and let the specialized tools, (like Samba), do their job as modules or separate applications for those who need it. Those who don't use it won't appreciate the kernel bloat.

      --
      "A revolution without dancing is... a revolution not worth having"
    3. Re:Does this mean.. by S4t0r1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      no, it means simply that Andrew Tridgell can now work on samba full time without having the annoyance to find something to eat :)

    4. Re:Does this mean.. by 0racle · · Score: 2, Funny

      They hooked him up to an IV to feed him?

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      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
    5. Re:Does this mean.. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Best to keep the kernel small and let the specialized tools, (like Samba), do their job as modules or separate applications for those who need it.

      Not to be pedantic or anything, but modules are part of the kernel. And by the way, Samba client is kernel-based, because it's a filesystem. The Samba server runs as a user space daemon, as it should.

      --
      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    6. Re:Does this mean.. by m50d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why can't they just uncheck the option? Those who care about kernel bloat are surely compiling custom kernels anyway

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    7. Re:Does this mean.. by Frohboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, no wonder he has trouble finding food.. They took the list of pizza places in Canberra off of the Samba documention page. Furthemore, the Samba FAQ no longer seems to list ways of sending pizza to the Samba developers.

      See here for an old copy.

    8. Re:Does this mean.. by iabervon · · Score: 1

      No, although hopefully this will foster communication between the two projects. There are a number of things which could use an efficient in-kernel implementation, such as case-insensitive name lookup (it's generally agreed that case-insensitive filesystems are broken, but Samba needs to provide this nonetheless and Wine would like it as well). There was eventually a productive discussion, and Linus (IIRC) came up with a clever idea once it was clear that this was necessary (and once the desired behavior for the odd cases was specified).

    9. Re:Does this mean.. by spektr · · Score: 1

      Why can't they just uncheck the option? Those who care about kernel bloat are surely compiling custom kernels anyway

      This isn't about bloat. If a kernel module crashes, the whole system crashes and you have to reboot (possibly losing data or log information). If a normal process crashes, you just restart the service. No other process will suffer.

  4. Just announced and OSDL.org slashdotted?? by simos · · Score: 1

    I clicked on the OSDL link as soon as the item appeared on Slashdot (1 comment submitted) and the page gives out Zope error messages!

    Wow!

    1. Re:Just announced and OSDL.org slashdotted?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      perhaps slashdot people are starting to see that they should first read the article... and then post :p

  5. Slashdotted by northcat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Site slashdotted. Here is the complete article:

    Site Error

    An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

    ZODB.POSException.ReadConflictError

    Sorry, a site error occurred.

    1. Re:Slashdotted by msh104 · · Score: 2, Informative

      here's the already slashdotted article! (with human readable formatting)

      Tridgell to focus on leading development work for Samba project that provides popular drop in Linux replacement for Windows file and print servers

      BEAVERTON, Ore. - January 17, 2005 - The Open Source Development Labs (OSDL), a global consortium dedicated to accelerating the adoption of Linux® in the enterprise, today named Samba creator Andrew Tridgell, PhD, as the Lab's second appointed Fellow. Tridgell joins Linux creator Linus Torvalds as an OSDL Fellow, positions created by the Lab to allow strategic developers to focus exclusively on their development and coding contributions to the open source community.

      As an OSDL Fellow, Tridgell will continue to lead global development work for the open source Samba project. Licensed under the GPL, Samba is a suite of programs that allow WindowsR clients to access a server's filespace and printers via the SMB (Server Message Block) CIFS (Common Internet File System) protocols. Tridgell first released Samba in January 1992 as an SMB server for UNIX. Samba, used by millions of people around the world, runs on Linux and most enterprise operating systems.

      ''Samba has long been one of the most important open source projects and it is recognized as a critical component for Linux in business,'' said Stuart Cohen, CEO of OSDL. ''We're pleased to have a developer of Andrew's stature join the Lab and that we can dedicate our resources to helping him continue his contributions to the Samba project.''

      Tridgell is currently working on the next major release of Samba, version 4, that has five goals: protocol completeness, extreme testability, non-POSIX backends, fully asynchronous internals and flexible process models.

      ''Samba4 is reaching an important milestone as a complete re-write of the old Samba code with the ambitious goal to be able to become an Active Directory Domain Controller,'' Tridgell said. ''I'm excited about my new role with OSDL and being free to dedicate my energies full-time to Samba.''

      Tridgell comes to OSDL after working in research and engineering roles at IBM, VA Software, Linuxcare, Quantum. He is also a visiting fellow at Australian National University.

      About the Open Source Development Lab

      OSDL - home to Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux - is dedicated to accelerating the growth and adoption of Linux. Founded in 2000 by CA, Hitachi, HP, IBM, Intel and NEC, OSDL is a non-profit organization at the center of Linux supported by a global consortium of more than 40 of the worlds largest Linux customers and IT industry leaders. OSDL sponsors industry-wide initiatives around Linux in telecommunications, in the enterprise data center and on corporate desktops. The Lab also provides Linux expertise and computing and test facilities in the United States and Japan available to developers around the world. Visit OSDL on the Web at http://www.osdl.org/.

      OSDL is a registered trademark of Open Source Development Labs, Inc. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Third party marks and brands are the property of their respective holders.

    2. Re:Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This only means that they must also hire Guido V.R.

    3. Re:Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a former colleague of Tridge's, I can say he's one damn smart guy.

      I wonder what made him decide to move on from IBM, though. Most of the people who were part of the Linuxcare Australia operation wound up at IBM...

    4. Re:Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MOD Parent down!! I know this person and he really thought it was the full article! This should be modded as "Un-Insightful".

  6. Re:The Fool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The proper phrase would be:

    "I pity the foo that works for Tim Witham"

  7. Related Samba.org news article by ctrlsoft · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://us1.samba.org/samba/news/announcements/#tri dge_osdl

    1. Re:Related Samba.org news article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  8. There's gonna be trouble this year... by mslinux · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, Big Blue opens up 500 patents to OSS developers and OSS companies. Then we hear that Tridgell (the guy who makes Linux interoperate with Windows computers) gets a job at OSDL... is it just me or is something BIG about to go down?

    I smell trouble and it smells like Sun and MS ;)

    1. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by PornMaster · · Score: 0

      And IBM sold off its PC division, totally changing the dynamics of their relationship with Microsoft...

    2. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by davecb · · Score: 1
      I think the odor is fried MS manager, as he looks at the juggernaut bearing down on him (;-))

      --dave

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    3. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Kunta+Kinte · · Score: 2, Insightful
      First, Big Blue opens up 500 patents to OSS developers and OSS companies. Then we hear that Tridgell (the guy who makes Linux interoperate with Windows computers) gets a job at OSDL... is it just me or is something BIG about to go down?

      IBM opens up a few of their patents ( they have thousands, don't they? ) and Tridgell gets, deservely, funding to continue his work.

      How on earth does that spell trouble???

      I smell trouble and it smells like Sun and MS ;)

      Dude, if Sun wanted to give trouble all they have to do is to stop pouring money into OpenOffice and Java on Linux. I'd argue that Linux middleware market is almost entirely due to Java's ubiquitousness.

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    4. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Hardly. IBM's PC division was insignifigant.

    5. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by mslinux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IBM opens up a few of their patents ( they have thousands, don't they? ) and Tridgell gets, deservely, funding to continue his work.

      Tridgell gets an academic-like job where he's called a 'fellow' while he does business programming that directly competes with companies such as MS and directly benefits IBM, HP, etc. One of the companies that pay for his 'research' is IBM. They (IBM) aren't a charity. And they don't do things because they have a big heart.

    6. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Atzanteol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hence everything is evil because somebody somewhere benefits from every action.

      Altruism is a myth. Take what you can get, and nevermind the reasons.

      --
      "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

      - Charles Darwin
    7. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by SunFan · · Score: 1

      I smell trouble and it smells like Sun and MS ;)

      What does this even mean? Sun is on the same overal road as IBM with OpenSolaris, OpenOffice.org, JDS, etc. Don't you just mean Microsoft? They're still holding out pretty fiercely as everyone else is moving forward.

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      -- Microsoft is the most expensive commodity operating system and office suite vendor in the marketplace.
    8. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by PornMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Insignificant to what? We're still talking reselling hundreds of millions of dollars in MS licenses, which they won't be a part of. We've seen IBM unafraid to use Linux on the server side, but desktops are a different story. I think it's significant that they're changing the dynamics of their relationship with MS.

    9. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I think it's significant that they're changing the dynamics of their relationship with MS.
      You don't know what you're talking about. "Dynamics" in meaningless in this context. You could just as well say the relationship is "fatter." You have no idea how signifigantly this changes their relationship with Microsoft, if it even does at all.
    10. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by straponego · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If everything is selfish, the word "selfish" has no meaning. Words are supposed to communicate, define, delineate. If you've got a definition for a word that renders it completely useless, that's probably not the definition people are using.

    11. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Funny

      You care to point out where I used the word "selfish"?

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      "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

      - Charles Darwin
    12. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is it just me or is something BIG about to go down?

      Nope, it's just you.

    13. Re:There's gonna be trouble this year... by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tridgell gets an academic-like job where he's called a 'fellow' while he does business programming

      Ain't nuthin special about being a "fellow."

      The employee designation "fellow" is commonly used by all the big corps (HP, IBM, GE, MS, you-name-it) for people who do cutting-edge type of work, pure research or not, which the company expects to eventually trickle down to their product lines. Nobody buys Samba from Tridgell, nobody buys Linux from Linus. But lots of people buy them in distributions and on hardware that OSDL member companies produce.

  9. For the mere mortal geeks by Rupy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OSDL = Open Source Development Labs
    See Wikipedia for more info

    1. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by armyofone · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. I still think they should consider changing it to OSJLA - The Open Source Justice League of America.

      But I'm not convinced that Linus, Andrew and the rest of the OSDL folks running around in tights and capes would be a good thing...

      --
      "A revolution without dancing is... a revolution not worth having"
    2. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't Andrew Tridgell Australian, and Linus from Finland? Maybe needs a name other than Justice league of america.. :)

    3. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ummm... they're living and working in Beaverton, Oregon USA.

      Besides...
      Superman was from Krypton.
      Aquaman was from Atlantis
      Hawkman was from Thanagar
      Wonder Woman was from Paradise Island (Amazonia)

      They all didn't seem to have a problem being called the Justice League of America. Oh wait, that's right... they were just fictional characters in an age when Political Correctness hadn't yet reached such comic proportions, (pun intended).

      What was your point again?

    4. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Never mind the capes. The whole notion of OS as a holy crusade is counterproductive. Fortunately Tridgell and Thorvalds have always seen OS as alternative development model, not as a great social reform.

    5. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A registered /. poster not interested in seeing Linus as close to naked as laws would allow? I'm shocked.

    6. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Thorvalds

      Ahhh, Thorvalds, the Finnish God of Thunder! ;-)

    7. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      Capes are definitely a bad idea. Haven't you seen The Incredibles?

    8. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I don't know Finnish, but if the etymolgy of "Thorvalds" is Germanic, than it means "Thor's Woods". I can't think of a cute joke to make out of that, but I'm sure somebody else will!

    9. Re:For the mere mortal geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean Bush and Rumsfelds are the Justice League of Iraq?

  10. Re:The Fool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    perfectly on topic -- tim witham runs the OSDL.

  11. Excuse me, Simon... by ashitaka · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When you add a great new feature such as supporting Windows machine accounts on Samba make sure your user community is aware that it will completely screw up rights assignments on your servers as the new machine accounts get assigned to old user UIDs by winbind.

    I just spent a harried morning resetting all files back to their correct owners and groups.

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    1. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about?

      You can assign whatever UIDs you want to user or machine accounts. If it comes to it, you can edit them directly in the backend.

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    2. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by davecb · · Score: 1
      I think you'll want to set the new winbindd account uids to a uid range that isn't already in use (;-))

      --dave

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    3. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We upmod people who are too stupid to administer windows machines because it perpetuates the slashbot myth that windows is hard to administrate.

      In short, STFU n00b!

    4. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by ashitaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know how Winbind works with Samba right?

      You set a UID and GID range in smb.conf like so:

      winbind uid = 10000-20000
      winbind gid = 10000-20000

      So your user billg gets assigned UID 10004 for example.

      Now this is all running fine until you run up2date samba or do a manual upgrade and you get the new version that suppports machine accounts. All of a sudden 10004 is now the UID for MYDELLPC$ and Bill has lost access to his files.

      Lovely little gotcha.

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    5. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just spent a harried morning resetting all files back to their correct owners and groups.

      Or you would have if you hadn't made proper backups prior to making an important change to your system... RIGHT?

      /sighs

    6. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      You know how winbind dynamically assigns UIDs and GIDs to windows domain users and saves them in a .tdb database right?

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    7. Re:Excuse me, Simon... by ChanxOT5 · · Score: 1

      Rather than complaining about the new software features, perhaps you should've done your job as 'systems admistrator' and tested the new version before you put it in to production.

  12. Wow! That's awesome by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Troll

    Does this mean that I'll soon be able to drop in Samba as a replacement for an AD domain controller?

    No? Damn. Oh well, good for him.

    Kind of sucks to be a 'fellow', it sounds kind of silly and outdated. I'd rather be a 'guy' or a 'dude'.

    Anyways, is AD Domain Controller support still on the roadmap for Samba 4? Are we close to production release yet?

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  13. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the FINE article:

    ''Samba4 is reaching an important milestone as a complete re-write of the old Samba code with the ambitious goal to be able to become an Active Directory Domain Controller,'' Tridgell said.

    1. Re:RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did.

      It's been stated before that it's an "ambitious goal". I read that as "we'd like to do this, but it's kind of a pie in the sky fantasy".

      I'm asking if it's actually going to be done, if it's close to being done, and if not, what's stopping it from being done? AD is pretty well understood, is it not?

  14. While I'm glad to see he's back on his feet... by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I'm still hoping he'll get back together with George Michael at some point for a reunion tour.

    Wait. Andrew *who*?

    Oh, never mind...

    1. Re:While I'm glad to see he's back on his feet... by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow. The joke was lame.

      But the fact that you actually know who "the other guy from Wham!" is, well thats indescribably lame.

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    2. Re:While I'm glad to see he's back on his feet... by Eccles · · Score: 1

      But the fact that you actually know who "the other guy from Wham!" is, well thats indescribably lame.

      So is showing that you know the other guy from Wham! is while flaming someone else for it...

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      Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
  15. What is OSDL by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know what it's purpose is, who founded it, etc.

    I'm wondering if it's an actual physical place. A place where Linus and Andrew are actually at. Or do they work at home from their underwear, and OSDL just sends them checks?

    I just like imagining a giant room full of cubicles, with only two occupied, with little nametags saying "Linus" and "Andrew".

    And Lumbergh coming buy every 45 minutes to say "Hmmmmmm.... You know what? I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday. Ok. Great. And we're putting cover sheets on all the kernel patches, ok? Great."

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    1. Re:What is OSDL by x40sw0n · · Score: 1

      The OSDL is an actual place; the lab itself is in Beaverton, OR (a suburb of Portland). There is a map of the layout of different areas in the OSDL as well. Somewhere anyway... i think i ran across it on their site.

    2. Re:What is OSDL by ericzundel · · Score: 1

      I read an interview in some kind of industry trade rag that Torvalds works from his home. He was named #1 IT person of the year or something like that and they came out to his home and gave him an interview. One of the reasons he joined ODSL was so he could spend more time with his family.

    3. Re:What is OSDL by lindsley · · Score: 1
      Yup, I've been to OSDL. It's real. And it's got more than two cubicles (well, more than three now that "the other Andrew" has joined.) OSDL does more than house those three and throw them a food pellet once in a while -- they've got folks to support the hardware they have there and the software initiatives that they are spearheading, like carrier-grade Linux.

      Linus and Andrew (and I suspect, now, "the other Andrew") tend not to be at the office but instead work remotely, coming into the office for meetings when needed. That said, Linus did move to the Portland area. But working from home allows him a great deal of flexibility and better able to spend time with his family. Not unlike many other people who telecommute (he wrote from his basement office as his daughter watched a video upstairs after her nap.)

  16. Re:OSDL - here I come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Neither Linux or Samba have changed the world.

    Unless your defition of "the world" is "your parent's basement."

  17. [OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by asliarun · · Score: 1

    I would be very curious to know how the "slashdotting" phenomenon maps over time. As i'm not an intarweb elder, i don't know if sites would regularly get slashdotted in the yesteryears. If any veterans are reading, has this increased or decreased over the years?

    Another thing is: assuming that the slashdotting is a prime moving internet force, why doesn't slashdot itself get recursively slashdotted, get recursively slashdotted, get recur.. never mind. I mean, what kind of hardware is it running on?

    Sorry for the OT. I don't have any other way to ask the readers a question on slashdot itself. Come to think of it, a meta post on slashdot might be an excellent idea.

    1. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new around here.

    2. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by ceswiedler · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has hardware to support its reader base. Other sites have much smaller requirements. When Slashdot links to them, they get 10x or more times their regular traffic. If they chose to spend what Slashdot does on hardware, presumably they could support the load. But it's not worth it for rare cases of extreme short-term interest. On a large site, the Slashdot effect may show up only as a small jump (percentage-wise) in hits.

    3. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by Sheetrock · · Score: 1
      The best person to ask about this would probably be CmdrTaco himself (via e-mail). The FAQ entry is outdated, as I thought they moved to servers on the west coast at some point -- certainly, those listed in the FAQ seem quite underpowered for the traffic and features Slashdot's handling now.

      I know that Slashdot was bringing down websites regularly when I first made my account, if that helps (found this amusing, and it dates from around 1999). But it'd be interesting to see a monthly tally of hits over the last five years.

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    4. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by asliarun · · Score: 1

      Thanks. My comment on recursive slashdotting was a half-joke though :-) Was just fantasizing if a phenomenon like slashdotting could get into an infinite loop or something.

      I really meant to ask about the kind of hardware setup that slashdot uses.

    5. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by xmas2003 · · Score: 1
      My personal web site has been Slashdotted 5 times since 2002 ... so if you are interested at seeing some of that data (and from other sites), take a look at my Slashdot Analysis Page which might help answer your question about how the Slashdot Effect has varied over time, but it's hard to compare data.

      In a nutshell, user's computers/internet connections are getting faster, and images/videos are getting larger and more prelevent ... but then again, servers are getting faster with better connections ... so it's basically an arm's race! ;-)

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    6. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by asliarun · · Score: 1

      Thanks. You never know. Perhaps, CmdrTaco gleefully keeps a secret list of sites scalped by slashdot :-)
      (kidding)

      I'll try mailing him.

    7. Re:[OT] The "Slashdotted" phenomenon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't you the liar that decieved us about your christmas lights display? If you are, then why should we believe anything you say?

  18. Re:Wow! That's awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, you work with AD networks? No wonder you're so bitter. And stupid.

  19. Re:Great IDEA to get more people interested in Lin by Ingolfke · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    They needed to force the software makers to make a alternative to all their software that is Posix/Linux compatible.

    You don't go far enough, the government needs to sieze control of all software companies and return their assets to the proletariat. The greedy capitalists should be "tried" and shot for oppressing the honest working man for so many years.

    It's not really surprising that Bill Gates equates anti-DRM folks with communism when people actually believe drivel like what the parent posted.

  20. Excellent by jbb999 · · Score: 1

    This guy rocks. Not just for samba but rsync, and lots of tivo stuff too. Unless I'm confusing him with someone else

    1. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's him. Rsync was his PhD thesis. The Tivo stuff was done along with Bob Edwards (also of ANU) and a few others.

    2. Re:Excellent by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 1

      that's the guy.

      rsync is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

      samba's a pain, it makes me have to look at the windows boxes... :)

  21. Samba Code Auto-generated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is *most* of the Samba code now being auto-generated? Last I heard it was at 40%.

  22. Alexandre Julliard said to join OSDL as fellow by Ingolfke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Alexandre Julliard, of Wine fame, is rumored to be scheduled to join OSDL as a fellow in February. At that time OSDL, along with it's three fellows, Linus Torvalds, Andrew Tridgell, and Alexandre Julliard will announce a radically new direction for Linux, Samba, and Wine... to create Longhorn before Microsoft does.

    1. Re:Alexandre Julliard said to join OSDL as fellow by Almost-Retired · · Score: 2, Interesting

      to create Longhorn before Microsoft does

      Chuckle... The thought positively boggles the mind. Particularly since longhorn seems to be turning into a Duke Nukem Forever or Half Life 2 all by itself. With the latest ship date still quite some time in the future, and prospects for even more delays looking pretty good, who actually knows?

      However if the 3 of them can work together, I cannot see anything but public good come of it. I don't know a lot about Alexandre Julliard, but from the few messages I've had from Andrew (aka Tridg) over the years when I had samba questions for my amiga system long ago, I'm highly impressed. He has, I think, an outlook on computing thats much larger than just samba/cifs. That should mesh well with Linus.

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      Cheers, Gene

    2. Re:Alexandre Julliard said to join OSDL as fellow by PeterPumpkin · · Score: 1

      Perhaps not too off base, as Alexadre and Linus seem to be in good communication. If you look at the WINE newsletter for the last week in December, not only is Linus shown as posting to their mailing lists, Linus is shown as having the greatest number of posts (18).

  23. SMB/CIFS Direction by fungai · · Score: 1

    Nice to see OSDL acknowledging Andrew's valuable contributions in this manner. On the SMB/CIFS front, I wonder how relevant it will be in a year or 3. With sharepoint becomming all the more popular, will people be using traditional file servers in a couple of years?

  24. Re:Great IDEA to get more people interested in Lin by Homology · · Score: 1
    Another IDEA would be for a DECOMPILER. IF there were really a good decompiler then you could run alot of windows software.

    One of the many times whre one whish there was a moderation of "-1 Ignorant".

  25. Yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Another fine example of the quality code that OSDN produces. We can all be proud that Samba will now follow the SDLC we've grown to know and love:
    1. Developer gets an itch
    2. Developer hacks up a patch
    3. Roll to production
    4. Testing
    5. ???
    6. Profit!!!
  26. Not a bad idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Is the name "Longhorn" trademarked by MS? If not, someone should come out with a version of Linux called "Longhorn Linux" and market it to all the usual Windows web sites. Note to Redhat/Suse, THIS is how you compete with Microsoft! It's called "barely ethical, definitely underhanded market manipulation" and you guys have to get good at it if you want to survive.

  27. Re:Great IDEA to get more people interested in Lin by Rudeboy777 · · Score: 1

    None of us believe this drivel. I'm leaning towards Troll myself. Come on, DECOMPILER??!!

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  28. Re:Very soon... by hdparm · · Score: 1

    When is RMS scheduled to join?

  29. Re:Great IDEA to get more people interested in Lin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh?

    Are you implying that communists are dumb?

  30. Are you talking about... by leonbrooks · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...the same people that Indonesia won't let land and occasionally blow out of the water if they think they can get away with it? The ones rich enough in their home countries to fall prey to the even greedier scamsters who put them on the rotten hulks they sail in the first place? The ones who sail off to save themselves, leaving so many of their countrymen to be murdered behind them? The same ones who import their native triads to Oz and ramp up our local crime rates? The same ones for whom Australia is the only country soft enough to ever let them land at all?

    The issues are not as cut and dried as you hope.

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  31. He's well supplied with coffee, though. by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    His house sports quite a whizz-bang coffee-maker. And a truly excellent wooden frog.

    On a serious note, like Linus, I don't think he'll ever be short of a job or a dime. He could have anything delivered that takes his fancy. However, he also likes to exercise - which is great from our PoV since it keeps him alive and healthy for longer - and to cook.

    However, the ways-to-send-pizza will be missed. If it could be automated, they could put it back as a "Send Pizza" button, which queues up pizzas across the world for when Samba developers want one. (-:

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  32. Re:Boycott Australia by CypherOz · · Score: 1

    Geezzzz...
    We are allowed to deport illegal immigrants. Every nation has that option.
    People comming illegally to .au assessed NOT to be refugees get deported.
    .au rules are less onerous than the UNHCR rules, so we are fairer then the UN.
    .au has a very fair refugee program and a (increased) quota of refugees in our immigration program.

    <flame state="on" /> aminorex: Get the bloody facts first you idiot!<flame state="off" />

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  33. No Capes! by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    From IMDB:
    Edna 'E' Mode: It will be bold! Dramatic!
    Bob Parr: Yeah!
    Edna: Heroic!
    Bob: Yeah. Something classic - like Dynaguy. Oh, he had a great look - the cape and the boots...
    Edna: No capes! [Throws a wadded ball of paper at Bob's head]
    Bob: Isn't that my decision?
    Edna: Do you remember Thunderhead? Tall, storm powers? Nice man, good with kids.
    Bob: Listen 'E'...
    Edna: November 15th of '58! All was well, another day saved... when his cape snagged on a missile!
    Bob: Thunderhead was not the brightest bulb...
    Edna: Stratogirl! April 23rd, '57! Cape caught in a jet turbine!
    Bob: E, you can't generalize about these things...
    Edna: Metaman - express elevator! Dynaguy - snagged on takeoff! Splashdown - sucked into a vortex! NO CAPES!

    I also like E doing "Fight! Win!".

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  34. Wasn't him working for IBM lately? by Burgergold · · Score: 1

    I though that he was working for IBM like less than two years ago. Anyone know what are his achievements with the Big Blue?

  35. Re:OSDL - here I come! by haruchai · · Score: 1

    Defition? Is that in the M$ dictionary? My gnome-dictionary doesn't have any such word in it.

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  36. "Tridge the Fridge - Cause he's cool" by dogsend · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least that what was written on the refridgerator in the CS common room at uni (ANU).

    Tridge was held in high regard by all the students. Well grounded academically and socially.

  37. Re:Boycott Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The only fact that the grandparent asserted was that Australia deported asylum seekers who were subsequently murdered for political or reasons related to Australia's refugee policy (eg their religion, sex, race etc).

    The grandparent did not assert that Australia has reduced their refugee intake. Therefore, your flame is unwarranted.

    The complaint against Australia's current refugee policy is that "boat people" are not even given the chance to apply for asylum as the boats are intercepted before they reach land as well as the government's attempt to excise islands from our migration zone (how does that work?). This makes a mockery of Australia's alleged lax refugee rules. Who cares how lax they are if you can't use them.

    Is that like the European language test from the days of the White-Australia policy which existed as late as the 1960's (or maybe even 1970's?). For non-Australians, this is the test where all migrants had to speak in a European language. Seems racially unbiased right? Except that the testing officer might choose English for an "acceptable" migrant, and choose Yugoslavian (or another minor European language) for undesirables.

    As for the allegations that Australian rules are less erronous than the UN, that may have been true a few years ago, but I pour scorn on that idea now. See the fate of some of the Nauru refugees which Australian nonetheless would not accept.

    Finally, another complaint about Australian's refugee policy is that they are treated worst than criminals.

  38. Re:Boycott Australia by aminorex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You deport Muslim converts to Christianity to certain death in Iran, and pregant Chinese women to certain forced abortion in China, and hold children in prisons in the desert separated from their families for years at a time. You're the descendents of a bunch of criminal transportees, and you really should be first against the wall when the eugenics campaign begins, because you're behaving like one would expect the descendents of murderous criminals to behave. Oh, and thank you for helping to kill a million innocent Iraqis too.

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