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HP to Region-code Cartridges

prostoalex writes "Looks like the printer cartridge manufacturers will be borrowing techniques from Hollywood. HP introduced region coding for some of the newest printers sold in Europe. HP's US location and US dollar sliding lead to the situation, where cartridge prices in Europe are significantly higher than those in the States. In the Wall Street Journal article HP representative in Europe claims the company doesn't make any money off regional coding for cartridges, and that consumers will win once the US dollar rises over Euro."

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  1. Greedy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Damn greedy bastards!"

    Oh.. and don't try to fool me into believing that you don't earn anything from catridges.

  2. Why are they doing it? by Alioth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they claim they don't make money off region coding cartridges, why are they doing it? Sounds like bullshit to me.

  3. Dollar rising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sorry, the dollar will rise against the euro!?!?! When exactly? From where I'm looking, it looks like the current barmy US economic policy will see it sliding indefinately... say goodbye to buying oil with dollars.

  4. code my money by zmollusc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would like to region code my money so that it cannot be used outside my home country. What's that? currency exchanges? I am sorry, but by accepting my payment you agree to the EULA on my cheque which forbids you from exchanging, transferring or otherwise distributing my money. You can keep my money but cannot transfer it to someone else. I also have a huge list of restrictions on how you can store and play with my money. There, that's fair isn't it?

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  5. Re:How Stupid? by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Consumers will win once the US dollar rises over Euro

    Unfortunately, those in the know (such as Warren Buffet) are quite certain the US Dollar will continue to decline for some time.

  6. First they came for the DVD's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but I wasnt a dvd user, so I didnt do anything

    Then, they came for the printer cartriges, but I didnt use a printer, so I never said anything.

    what's next?

  7. Globalisation by Siener · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This move by HP is asinine for many reasons, but one has not been brought up in the comments so far:

    On the one hand big companies and corporations are lobbying governments to lessen trade restrictions and import/export taxes so that they can benefit from cheap production costs in other countries. Then on the other hand, they add restrictions themselves so that they can still sell the items at high prices. They make sure that they benefit and not the customer.

    Try are trying to have their globalisation cake and eat it.

  8. Re:Where's AntiTrust when you need them? by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given most DVDs are region encoded, regardless of whether they're for movies that came out in the cinema six months ago, or for movies that were released before video taping was ever invented, I think it's safe to say that region encoding doesn't really have a lot to do with cinema release dates.

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  9. It's bullshit however you cut it by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As ridiculous region coding is for DVDs, there I can see a minimal reason (the publishers not wanting a DVD to make it into a market where the movie hasn't even been in the cinemas yet... But as cinema release dates for the big global productions inch ever closer to each other all over the globe, this reason is going away fast - leaving the only "good" thing of the region codings that they can charge more in Europe.

    Region codes are bullshit no matter how you slice it. They make a mockery of free markets and free trade agreements. Essentially, the international corporations have decided they like free trade agreements when it means they can outsource their labor to the cheapest markets without restrictions (and in the case of the Bush administration, with tax incentives to do so), but they will artificially fragment the marketplace in order to prevent their customers from shopping competatively.

    Free trade for corporations, restricted trades for mortal humans.

    Its unjustifiable, regardless of whether it's DVDs we're talking about, or printer cartidges. The DVD justification has always been weak, and typically break down to:

    1) MPAA Whiney voice: "But we don't want people buying movies in one market when they haven't been released in another."

    1) Sensible citizen's response: "Touch shit. It's a global marketplace. Release your movies globally, instead of fucking with people in market B by making them wait six months longer than people in market A. This whole "second class" market citizenship is vile anyway."

    2) Whiney MPAA voice: "But we don't want arbitrage markets forming, where people buy DVDs in China for $3 and sell them in the US for $10 when we're selling the same DVD for $20."

    2A) Reasonable citizen response: "Fuck you. If you can make a profit selling DVDs in China for $3, you can make a profit selling them in the US for $3. Anything more is gouging the customer, and quite frankly, no one with a shred of common sense should have an ounce of sympathy for an industry that bases its entire business model on the practice of gouging various sets of customers. Oh, and if you're going to whine about currency markets and shifting values of the yuan against the dollar, a sensible person has but two things to say. One, the Yuan is locked to the dollar, so the specific argument with regard to China is doubly bullshit, and two, in the more general sense (e.g. the US vs. Europe), currency markets are free marktets, and you can accept their results the same as the rest of us. If that means someone occasionally gets a good deal when they travel overseas, more power to them. Its called a global economy ... you've used it as an excuse to outsource our jobs overseas, now get used to us shopping overseas if we like."

    HP should be run out of town for this nonsense. The MPAA should be run out of town for this nonsense. But most importantly, the scum-sucking politicians who set up this one-sided regime of free trade for companies, but restricted trade and rights for real, living human beings, should be run out of the country for this nonsense.

    Not that I'm holding my breath, mind you.

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