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Exeem Open Beta Released

BrasOnMyGuitar writes "The file sharing application known as eXeem (made by the creators of the now-defunct file-sharing site SuprNova.org) has gone into public beta. The program is based on the BitTorrent protocol. However, it eliminates the need for trackers and decentralizes the user from the network. This allows for Kazaa-style searching with the speeds and benefits of the BitTorrent protocol." Reader Eeknay points out that Linux users can run it too.

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  1. First Thoughts by Klar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just downloaded the program, the interface is pretty p2p standard. When installing, It asks you to install an eXeem IE Toolbar, which I did not do.. Also, it seems to be having problems connecting to the network and searching for files. Hopefully it will be as widely used as suprnova was, and have some good download speeds. After several tries, I was able to connect to the network, and find a few files, but there were very few results, and only 1 seed on each of them. Since suprnova has been down, I've mostly just been using torrentspy. Anyone have an other recommendations for sites? I prefer just having web pages, so I don't have to run a separate client.

    1. Re:First Thoughts by martok · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's unfortunate that they aren't opening this protocol as BitTorrent was. The nice thing about BitTorrent is the user can run it under any environment he chooses. From a gui windows program or as in my case, via btdownloadheadless/btlaunchmany on a headless fileserver.

      This seems like just another p2p app to me.

    2. Re:First Thoughts by XMyth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly.

      My fear is this may (possibly...) splinter the existing BT community. I'm sure the smarter, more tightly controlled ratio sites (IOW, the *good* ones) will not jump into this...hopefully their users will see the folly in doing such.

      If it comes down to that though, I'd rather see eXeem go away completely. As you said...it's just another p2p app.

    3. Re:First Thoughts by Roosta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I maintain a list of bittorrent sites here w.torrentland.co.uk. Apologies for the bad site design, it's in the process of being improved at the mo.

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  2. Privacy of the person sharing? by surefooted1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How well does it protect the person sharing or seeding the file?

  3. No native binaries for Linux by Slayer_X · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually the client runs with the help of wine, I prefer native binaries :/

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  4. It's time to do a GPL version of this by darthcamaro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This service will end up the same as Supernova eventually. The only way a p2p torrent service will ever survive is if it is GNU/GPL.

  5. Re:Safe and sane P2P client... by goldspider · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "2) will the record industry's Nazis come kicking down my door for downloading Linux-related files?"

    No, the record industry's Nazis will come kicking down your door for illegally distributing copyrighted music.

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  6. Re:Spyware by GweeDo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Actually according to the eXeem Lite FAQ eXeem Lite doesn't contain spyware. No were in the FAQ do they actually say that eXeem does.

  7. it's not opensource by kard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    from the exeem-faq:
    How can eXeem(TM) be free?
    eXeem(TM) is supported only by ad revenue. This allows the developers to continue making upgrades to the network and enhancing the eXeem client for you.

    bittorent-faq:
    BitTorrent is great! How can I help?
    You can give a donation.

    see the difference?

    exeem-faq:
    Is eXeem(TM) open source?
    No, eXeem(TM) is not open source.

    bittorrent-faq:
    What license is BitTorrent released under?
    MIT License, which basically lets you do anything you want with it so long as you leave the license notification in the source.

    bittorent is there, it's widespread, does not contain any ads, the source code is available, runs on anything that runs python (means mac/win/linux and a lot more)

    and btw the author lives from the paypal donations he receives from the happy users.

    somehow the suprnova people do not understand these things...

  8. Re:Question by awolk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it doesn't use trackers, how is the connection between clients done? "Suprnodes" i suppose? I'm trying to find out but TFSHBS (The * Site Has Been Slashdotted). So, any info plz? Or a .torrent for the docs? ;)

    1. Mirrors:
    http://www.mirrordot.org/stories/764ecea 2714349e08 72bb15300c31d12/index.html
    http://www.mirrordot.o rg/stories/be6b55cafbd710266 e6055abafed4cee/index.html

    2. No, everyone acts as tracker(for things you've downloaded), as far as I know ... Haven't read everything through, though, but I think it's fully decentralised, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

  9. How can it be easier? by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With bittorrent everyone's IPs are in plain sight on a plainly visible central tracker. No matter what Exeem does I can't see how it could make it "much easier" to track people down.

    That said I don't think the nominal point of Exseem is to "reduce the ability of copyright owners to sue pirates". Individual pirates will probably be as attackable as ever (you simply can't offer something to the public without them knowing it came from you in an efficient manner otherwise). It just aims to remove the risk of a central point of failure, the tracker, being attacked (legally or otherwise).

    It's possible that Exeem could make users open to more prosecution though. Typically Bittorrent users can be seen uploading/downloading one piece of content at a time. If Exeem decentralises in such a way that their computers are also taking part in indexing and tracking downloads then arguably they are involving themselves with more copyright violation than with Bittorrent.

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  10. Re:Libtorrent by mackstann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exeem is using a GPL library? Doesn't that mean they're violating the GPL?

  11. Re:Libtorrent by yeremein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Libtorrent is an open source GPL'd C++ implementation of the bittorrent protocol.

    You're right--it is GPL. Not LGPL.

    This means eXeem needs to release the source code of their client, rather than shipping a spyware-encrusted binary, or they're infringing libtorrent's copyright.

    Then again, why would I expect the authors of eXeem to respect anyone's copyright?

  12. License Violation by tweakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Confirmed!

    The Sourceforge page incorrectly lists the license as BSD. The COPYING file in the archive contains the GPL2 license. Unfortunately, none of the source files contain a license header.

    Does anyone know if this is a problem?

  13. Yeah, but what if... by DrYak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a big probleme with commercial application going to linux. For most enterprises : "Linux" = "A windows compatible x86 machine running Linux instead of Windows". I bet their linux console version will be just a x86 binary, compiled on a Fedora Core machine (a that could run maybe on SuSE Linux if you fix a couple of missing libraries). Hello ! There a lot of other architectures on which Linux runs ! And this specially important for internet related software, because there's a lot of MIPS-powered hardware hacked to run Linux. (I'm not speaking about the Linksys WT54G - it doesn't have a harddisc. I'm speaking about a lot of Linux+MIPS based file servers running Samba. They are good candidate to run p2p downloaders). And I won't even mention Wine : It requires a X11 server and it's everything but what is needed for a headless server.

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  14. hm by DoktorTomoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    hmmm ... windows only hmmmmm ... source unavailible hmmmmmmmmm ... ADWARE *peeks over to azureus* hm, does the thing just as good. And why would I want decentralized bittorent when I'm just downloading distribution ISO files?

  15. Re:More than a little skeptical... by DanMc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't have to license the application to reverse engineer the protocol.

    I have a big network and a strict usage policy. If my network users want to license the software and use it on my network, I peek at the traffic on my wires, and even compare that with screenshots of the licensed user's desktops.

    They're distributing the app to the public, and intentionally sending the traffic over the public Internet. They have no expectation that non-licensed users will not look at the traffic and figure out what it's doing.