Taking My Freedom With Me to China?
Solo Han asks: "I'm considering a move to China next year, and while I have just as many problems as y'all do with the government, I still like the freedoms afforded me, especially when it comes to access of information. Chinese citizens, however, do not have the same freedoms, as we are constantly reminded here on slash-o-dot. Pr0n, mp3z, and games aside, what are the things that those of you in the Celestial Kingdom know you cannot access, and specifically, what are the websites, search engines, news sites, and other sites that are classed as potentially 'dangerous' material? This brings me to my overall question: is the censorship that real, that hard to get around, and how do you do it? What methods and technologies are you aware of or use to circumvent the Great Firewall of China?"
Just so you know, the US won't fight to get you out of prison like other countries do for their own nationals. Have fun!
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But . . . but . . . I thought we Americans lived in a fascist imperialist warmongering state led by Bushitler who sends his Ashcroftian secret police to raid the homes of those who dare to defy the RIAA and MPAA's edicts! Or something like that. You mean the United States might *not* be the worst place in history to live in?!? Impossible!
That is because.
Tiannamen never happened.
Was totally justified.
The peoples Army of China was protecting the people of China.
I do not hate the Chinese. Frankly I have hope that they are slowly sliding towards Freedom. It may take time but it will happen. Then the Chinese people will mourn for the people at Tiannamen.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
Yup, no suppression occuring in the PRC. None, at all. Move along.
Just a little "mourner-beating" is all... but hey, they deserved it for mourning an ex-leader who dared to say that the Tiananmen massacre was wrong. Imagine!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/200 50 127/wl_afp/chinatiananmenpoliticspetitioners_05012 7114011
BEIJING (AFP) - China has detained dozens of people, some of whom have been severely beaten, for trying to mark the death of former leader Zhao Ziyang, witnesses said.
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The allegations came as the government intensified security to prevent mourners attending Saturday's funeral in Beijing for Zhao, the former Communist Party secretary general purged for opposing the 1989 military crackdown on the Tiananmen democracy movement.
At least three people, including a woman in her 70s, were punched and manhandled by police officers outside the government offices which receive complaints in the Chinese capital, witnesses said.
They were among some 60 people who pinned white paper flowers to their clothes, a traditional Chinese symbol of mourning, said a bystander who took pictures of the beatings and posted them on overseas websites.
"A man from Henan province was beaten badly. His left eyeball looked like it was beaten out of its socket and he had a one inch cut to his right eye," said the man who requested anonymity.
"An elderly woman from Shandong province was beaten to a point where she couldn't move and a man from Hunan province was also beaten," he said.
Police shouted at the petitioners that Zhao, who spent nearly 16 years under house arrest until his death last week, was a "political criminal," the witness said.
"They said: 'Why are you commemorating him? You're clearly opposing the government. But the petitioners said 'We think differently. We think he's a good person."
Also last week, an estimated 80 to 90 petitioners were rounded up near Zhao's traditional courtyard home in Beijing for trying to get inside to pay respects and express condolences to his family, petitioners said.
"In our petitioners' hostel, all 10 people who went were detained and held from from 9 am to 11 pm," said Bai Shuhua, one of the 10.
"In the police station, they said 'You don't seek leaders who are alive, but insist on seeking dead leaders. How can the dead help you?" Bai said.
One of the petitioners, Liu Hongbo, was punched twice as he yelled "Zhao didn't do anything wrong," Bai said.
Zhao, prime minister and head of the Communist Party for much of the 1980s, died on January 17 at the age of 85.
The authorities fear his death and funeral on Saturday will be a rallying point for dissidents, petitioners and people dissatisfied with the government.
Zhao was purged for opposing the military crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square pro-democracy protests in which hundreds, if not thousands, were killed.
China announced last week it would not hold memorial services for Zhao but only a "farewell activity for the body," which is effectively a funeral.
In China it is common practice for bodies to be cremated rather than buried.
But family members and the government have been in dispute over the official assessment of Zhao, the guest list and where his ashes should be placed.
These issues have yet to be resolved, a family friend told AFP, despite agreement on the date for the funeral.
"The official assessment is still under discussion," said the friend, who asked not to be identified.
Asked which government officials might attend to pay their respects, the friend said: "It is still unclear."
Diplomatic sources told AFP last week that Premier Wen Jiabao paid a secret visit to the man, who used to be his boss, two weeks before he died but there was no word on whether he would attend the funeral.
Wen was famously pictured standing next to Zhao on Tiananmen Squar
This is known as "social priorities". Honestly, your blurb doesn't transmit any notiable differences between the governments.
What I got out of that is "don't get caught". And that's exactly the same thing as America. Don't get caught with the intern sucking your cock, while you order troops into Bosnia. Don't get caught sending CIA "black-ops" agents to ask Serbs to shoot down Ron Brown's plane over Bosnia. Don't get caught fucking a 9 year-old "barely legal/just-had-her-period-3-days-ago" cousin in Mesopotamia. Don't get caught smuggling weapons, through a tunnel, from Egypt into Palesine. Don't get caught eating cheese and sleeping with 100 different mistresses in Paris.
Don't get caught filming pr0n in Los Angeles when you're fourteen.
Or for that matter, don't get caught fucking wiping out filthy Palestinians when you're the Ottoman Turks and you're fucking fed up with raids into your lands.
Dude. If you were trying to, like, outline some difference between the United States of America dn China, you utterly failed. Even the tank commander was reluctant to just fucking roll over that fucking rice-eating briefcase-wielding Chinaman son of a bitch. I fucking would have. Fucking teach that tree-hugger to defy me!
You are going to have to discuss social stability and personal rights, to draw a difference between China and the US. Not individually and seperate; you are going to have to integrate social stability and personal rights. With integrals, you don't always get to factors out and cancel variables.
Some variables interact with others.
According to British detainees held with Mr Habib and since released, "one of the prostitutes stood over him naked while he was strapped to the floor and menstruated on him".
Wow, that is truly brutal. How is the guys still alive? Personally, I don't think I could have taken that for more than, say several minutes before breaking. And that bit about pigs heads being put on the photos of his kids...SHOCKING!
If this is what the most dangerous Muslims in the world are made of, I'm glad I have George Jr. to protect me....
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
but... how's this significantly different than post-9/11 america when the republicans are in office?