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XM and Sirius Merger?
chipset writes "Well, it seems Sirius and XM are in talks again. This story from FoxNews indicates they are in merger discussions and want to expand their reach into all communications from space. This includes Cell, Music, and TV. I would love to see something like this take place. Give DirecTV and DishNetwork a little competition."
By reducing competition in satellite radio? No thanks.
sulli
RTFJ.
Sirius CEO says no merger.
I think the Sirius CEO denied the marger.
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http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/26/0126autofacescan
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Nope. Sorry.s /business/digital/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_ id=1000777229
http://billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/new
The thing I find funny is that the exact same story was submitted yesterday.l ?sid=05/01/2 6/2319240&tid=91&tid=14
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I mean it's the exact same story.
The link in the blurb is the same.
The blurb itself is the same.
The submitter is the same.
EVEN THE POSTER IS THE SAME.
Last time it was in "digital" and "science" and this time it's in the same sections (which are, relatedly, a totally wrong categorization, for which samzenpus should be flogged with a bundle of cat5 ethernet cables)
I emailed daddypants@slashdot.org about this, to no avail; the dupe got posted anyhow.
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I just hope they take over XM's price.
Don't worry.
It's a hoax.
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living."
- Seneca
XM and their lone competitor merging? You can't be Sirius!
The Uncoveror: It's the real news.
Because everybody's VAX needs satellite radio for that high-quality audio sound! :)
joshua
http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/26/0126autofacescan0 4.html
all the lovely details on the official response to this merger. The story broke this morning and not an hour later Mel Karmazin (Sirius CEO) had a response out. Its up to you to decide if that's spin control or the truth.
I flipped past Fox News just a few minutes ago and they reported that the president of XM had no idea where this story came from.
Technoli
Yep - the denial was reported earlier today on several sources:s /business/digital/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_ id=1000777229
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No word yet on the Homer-er from the XM CEO.
It would be cool if it didn't suck.
The summary indicates they would expand their products into TV and other markets in addition to radio.
I forgive you for stopping midway through the summary to post a question which is answered in it...
Actually, ClearChannel sold off their entire share of XM a while ago.
Yes. I prefer competition through exclusive contracts, like EA and Take Two do things.
It's like sex, except I'm having it!
Why the DEC logo?
Competition? You mean after I rip out my factory radio and replace it with another radio, just to try out the other service, and then if I liked the first one....
If there was a broadcast standard there would be competition. Right now it's two proprietary semi-monopolies for most consumers.
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While this is pretty unfounded, it does open the door to further speculation. My personal choice (if I were CEO of XM or Sirius) would be to acquire Real and merge my subscriber base with the Rhapsody subscribers. One account and you can stream Rhapsody to your computer or sat radio to your reciever. Personally, I'd subscribe to such a service.
ClearChannel used to own part of XM, but they don't anymore.
"Try creating a monopoly on satellite radio before the industry even gets off its feet"
I'm not sure the industry is going to get any more off its feet as far as additional competition.
This isn't exactly like a Windows -vs- Linux battle because these are both pieces of software that more often than not will run on the same hardware.
In the case of satellite radio you have to buy hardware specific to that company. I'd equate this more to Betamax -vs- VHS. Betamax may have been a superior format but for those who already had VHS, what incentive was there to buy another piece of proprietary hardware?
Of course there are kits that allow you to use satellite radio with a head unit that doesn't come satellite-ready that would allow switching, but even then you're still having to buy more proprietary hardware.
For there to be any new competition in the market, there is going to have to be innovation that takes satellite radio beyond its current form because nobody is going to care if yet another company pops up with commercial-free satellite radio that is identical to the others except for 1) Company name 2) Content offered.
I really hope something like this doesn't happen.
I have Sirius, and I'm pleased as punch with it. I can't see how merging with XM (if the story is, in fact, true) would make things any better.
Sirius has some great stations with good DJs. The bigger you make the company, the more whitewashed it becomes. I don't know what XM is all about, but people who have it tell me they like it. That's fine. But a little compitition never hurt anyone. Monopolies, on the other hand, usually don't work, espically with something as subjective as music.
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I think most current XM and Serius customers who already think they're paying enough money would disagree.
I think Microsoft and God should merge - that way, you wouldn't have to worry about where you go when you die.
Don't worry.
If you look at the slash logos on top, you'll see the logo of Digital Electronics Corporation, and Albert Einstein's head. Now, what do DEC and Einstein have in common, besides being dead? That's right, absolutely nothing. This proves that neither the submitter, nor the slashdot editor, actually has any idea what they're doing. Therefore, this story is probably bullshit.
QED.
It is most certainly NOT a hoax. My brother's neighbor's cousin's roommate works for Sirius and he's positive he overheard something in the lunchroom about this.
I don't know what the relationship is, exactly, but Dish Network already rebroadcasts/picks up the Sirius radio stations. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
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See:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/progra
Having had XM for a few months, I can not even begin to tell how absolutely sucky broadcast radio is. I know you think you know that it sucks. I thought so to. But I just didn't realize how horrid it had become until I had a wealth of listening options in my car. Just the thought of yet another inane "radio personality" (I refuse to use the term DJ... they're not) screaching at me makes me shutter. And if I have to go somewhere in my wife's car (sans XM)... ugh.
As far as a merger... well, I must admit that I'm a bit miffed with their exclusive sports contracts right now. XM has (or will have) Major League Baseball and Sirius has (or will have) NFL. I'd love to have both, but not if I have to get two sets of equipment and pay two subscription charges.
I think most of the rest of the programming (Stern and company excluded) is mostly duplicated between the two. The music selections are very similar as is much of the other programming.
Right now, I think they need to grow the subscriber base and I don't know as if the competition between XM and Sirius helps matters. I've heard a lot of people say that they're waiting to see which one survives before jumping on board. That's not a good thing for the long term viability of either one. In the long run, I think a merger would be helpful. They're competing against the status quo and against "free" broadcast radio. That alone should keep rates down. I don't think the XM vs. Sirius competition really means as much.
-S
--- What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?
Cripes. I read about it this morning and could see it wasn't even remotely likely as it would have to cut the mustard with the feds, i.e.:
It's Ok for there to be a monopoly if one goes out of business, but not Ok if the only two merge.
That aside... that's the Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) logo up there in the corner. WTF does the defunct maker of Vaxen and PDP's have to do with satellite radio????
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
In addition to running a series of about 60 music channels of their own, Dish Network carries about 68 from Sirius Satellite Network as well. So even if XM and Sirius do merge, Dish Network would still probably carry their channels as well. As long as they don't provide a video service, neither XM nor Sirius is truly any kind of competitor to Dish Network or DirectTV. As Dish Network has realized, an audio service can be a compliment to their offerings, not a competitor. An audio-only service is not a competitor to a video service. Dish Network, DirectTV and your local cable TV franchise are competitors, but XM and Sirius are not.
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I don't know what your talking about. I hate top 40. Sirius has "Sirius Disorder," which might be the best radio station ever to exist. They play ANYTHING. They give their DJs on that station total control. One song might be REM, the next, opera.
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Rest in peace DEC.
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