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New Climate Change Warning

sebFlyte writes "A new grid computing climate research project, climateprediction.net, has come up with its first major results, and they're really not good news for the planet according to the BBC. The simulations suggest that over the next hundred years we could see average rises of average temperatures of up to 11K, more than twice what was previously thought."

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  1. HOW I KNOW GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The Humanists are a proud bunch. Never to be stopped or even delayed in bringing in their "Brave New World." They are proud of their accomplishments and even prouder of their future plans. They like to brag on the way in which they never let a "challenge" get them down. Whether it is splitting the atom, finding a cure for smallpox, defeating a fascist regime, or going to the moon, they never let the magnitude of any obstacle deter them or cause them tto fret.

    Even now they are talking about setting up colonies on the lunar poles and mining water from lunar rocks in -200 degree temperatures like it's just a trip around the block. Build a space station? Travel to Mars? No Problem! Yet when faced with the ogre of "Global Warming," these same brave souls turn into quivering masses of flesh, paralyzed by the immensity of this "threat." There is no hope! "We're all going to die!" "The world is going to end!" "The sky is falling!"

    If the Humanists ofthe world really believed that the world was getting warmer, they would look at it--not as a threat--but as a mere "bump" in the road that they would be certain they would overcome. Instead, they all panic and call for more control over industry. (?)

    Think about this. If "Global Warming" is true, then think about the positive affects would have on the world:

    1. There would be more land with moderate climate for all those people who are "overpopulating" the earth to live on. (Overpopulation problem solved)

    2. There would be more fresh water available for irrigating desert lands. (Food Shortage solved)

    3. More arable land to grow crops. (Food Shortage solved)

    4. Milder winters. (Heat fuel shortage solved)

    5. Milder winters. (Less sickness)

    6. More Ultra Violet rays getting to earth. (UV kills some bacteria)

    7. Longer summers, longer tourist seasons. (More national income)

    If the Humanists really believed the world was getting warmer, they would be telling us not to be alarmed because "Man will rise to the occasion!" Instead, they huddle in the corner like terrified mice. Why? Because they want Americans to huddle in the corner like terrified mice so they can gain more power over us. Humanists hate America.

    I have said it time and time again. The goal of environmentalism and animal rightism is not to "save the earth." Their goal is to destroy the American economy. Why? Because a strong America is a detriment to a One World government! That's why over 160 nations were exempted from the environmental restrictions placed on the U.S. at Kyoto, Japan. The nations with the dirtiest air were exempted while stricter regulations were imposed on America--the nation that has done the most to clean up its environment.

    Remember the Gulf War? (The one to liberate Kuwait, not the one Clinton wants to fight to get our attention off of Monica.) Remember when Saddam Hussein poured raw crude oil into the Persian Gulf and then set over two hundred oil wells on fire? Where was the indignant outcry of environmentalism against Hussein? Nowhere! Why? Because he wasn't an American! Because Iraq isn't America!

    So here are men who are optimistic about finding a cure for AIDS. Men who talk about manned flight to Jupiter as though it were plausible. Yet "Global Warming"? They can't think of anything positive to say. They can see no hope whatsoever. That's because they see it as an opportunity to place greater restrictions on your freedoms and a tool to push America into poverty.

    Me? I'm going to pretend that "Global Warming" is true for a moment.

    I look forward to seeing vast corn fields in northern Canada and Siberia. I look forward to the additional rainfall from "the greenhouse" (tremble, please) turning our deserts into lush, fertile plains where new cities will spring up to take in the "overflow" from the "growing population". I look forward to it being warmer the year round, to the new citrus groves in Ohio and the rest of the Midwest. I look forward to the auto and aircraft industr

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  2. Once Again Totally Irrelevant by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    The same assumption that we'll all be standing around in our undies one hundred years from now.

    Get with the program. None of this is going to be relevant a hundred years from now.

    Nanotech will obviate any of this being significant, probably well within fifty years.

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    Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
  3. Re:11K? by RedWizzard · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    11K? Is that 11 000 *unknown units* or 11 degrees kelvin?
    Reading the fucking article would be the obvious way to find out.
    If 11 degrees kelvin, why not just say 11 degrees celsius...
    Because the kelvin is the SI base unit of thermodynamic temperature?
  4. MORE LIBERAL HIPPY SHIT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Global Warming like evolution is a stupid theory made by hippies and freaks.

  5. Re:Lalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalalala by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    God damn, you're a fucking idiot.

    May you be modded into oblivion.

  6. Re:You have to prioritize by DigiShaman · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    If the middle east can't solve their own damn problems that pose a threat to the US, we will do it for them. So yes, it is our GOD DAMN BUSINESS.

    Fuck you, and fuck everything about you that is against Americans looking after our own ass.

    Jesus Christ, that felt good

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  7. Re:You have to prioritize by DigiShaman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Run this by me again please. Why did we fight WW2? With your level of thinking, Germany would be the #1 super power.

    But naaaaa.... Americans seem to remember history far better then Europeans. You spineless coward

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  8. Re:HOWTO: give science a bad name. by ErikZ · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "If you increase a forest's temperature by about 5 degrees, you double its risk of forest fire."

    Seriously, what makes you think you can get away with statements like this on slashdot?

    At what temperature is there 0 risk? What about rain? Is there a 100% risk point? What kind of area are we talking about? Haven't we learned that periodic forest fires are part of the cycle of life for a forrest?

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  9. Since when did computer models become gospel? by stankulp · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Does anybody remember how Chaos Theory was first postulated?

    It began with a weather simulation computer model.

    The operator halted the program to do some other work on the computer, typed in some parameter values that were close to the values present when the program was halted, and resumed the computation.

    Low and behold, within a few minutes the pattern was completely different than it had been in previous iterations.

    This is when they discovered that minor changes in the starting conditions could lead to drastic differences in the outcome. This observation was later christened the "Butterfly Effect."

    The crux of Chaos Theory is that some systems will NEVER be predictable because there are so many variables that it is impossible to know all the starting conditions.

    If a computer model can't even predict weather more than a few days out, how is it that it can predict weather a hundred years from now?

    People who believe in global warming are religious zealots, true believers.

    They don't require any scientific facts, just pseudo-scientific hysteria.

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  10. Re:You have to prioritize by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Jesus Christ, that felt good

    First off, what would Jesus do?

    If the middle east can't solve their own damn problems that pose a threat to the US

    You fucking piece of shit moron.

    What threat did they pose?

    The entire world poses a threat to the US, should we go out and fix the entire world? Is America competent enough to do that? Many of our past attempts at playing "world police" have completely failed.

    When our government lies about WMD in Iraq, lies about Iraqi connections to terrorist groups, lies about Iraq's involvement in 9/11 and then invades Iraq based on those lies and kills thousands of people, how exactly does that mitigate the threat? The Bush administration has created far more problems then they could ever solve, and we're going to be paying for their mistakes for decades to come.

  11. Re:You have to prioritize by DigiShaman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Afghanistan was a total sucess. They have freedom and democrocy now. Though the had it not been for the UN botching up the job, the vote count could have gotten real nasty. But it didn't so I will leave it at that.

    I suppose out of "principle" we should have left Afgahanistan in the shit-hole state it was in under theocratic islamic rule by the Taliban. Am I right?

    And if the EU would start helping rather be a monkey on our back, we would have a much better sucess rate with Iraq. Or...just to spite the US, you would rather have Iraq be left in failed state of affairs?

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  12. Re:You have to prioritize by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Afghanistan was a total sucess. They have freedom and democrocy now

    Are you joking or are you fucking moron? If Afghanistan was a total success, why does the UN still have 18,000 troops in the country?

    The Afghani government only controls the area around Kabul, the rest of the country is in chaos, mostly controled by a dozen different warlords.

    People are hungry, there are no jobs, opium production is at an all time high, the Taliban has killed nearly 1000 people in the last year.

    Democracy means more then having elections.

  13. Re:You have to prioritize by DigiShaman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    *Rant mode on*
    Afghanistan was fine. and "...when in reality you just support dictators usually."
    I'm not sure who scares me most. Brainwashed idiots such as yourself, or Al Qaeda.
    Ya, Afghanistan was fine alright, so was the Soviet Union, Mogadishu, Iraq, Cuba, etc. And lets not forget that Bin Ladin is such a NICE guy. Then again...so was Adolf Hitler once you got to be his personal friend.
    Yup, only the western world can have freedom and democracy. The rest of the world is not capable of such ideas. Ohhh noooo, lets not disrupt their perfect happy little world. Noooooo we can never do that. Now if you excuse me, I will find some fresh sand to stick my head in.

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  14. Hydrocarbon Man is About to Become Extinct by Paradox_001 · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    Nothing short of a revolution is going to stop this freight train. Even perhaps a revolution will never change the human propensity of thinking the grass is always greener on the other side. Grass is never good enough so we pave over it. He who dies with the most toys, wins, right? First let me preface what I am about to say with the fact that I used to be a mindless consumer too so I can relate to all you people who will refute this. But I am just going to be blatently honest here - if there really is a God and he created this earth with this tremendously complicated and interdependant ecosystem, then he who dies with the most toys will surely go to hell. If there is a God I belive he sets limits, and we are being tested. The test - can get off the smack? The heroin of all hydrocarbons - oil, bloody oil.

    Here in America more than anywhere we are oil, literally.

    The people who run our government are oil. The oil industry staged a coup in 2000 and literally stole an election. But It's not just the repubs though, it's almost every politician in Washington, see Robert Baer's book, Sleeping with the Devil: How Washington Sold Our Sole For Saudi Crude. Condi Rice, while working at Chevron had an oil tanker named after her and Haliburton's CEO is now the brains of our operation. Even the puppet man himself has deep ties to oil, albiet his oil company Arbusto failed, miserably. As a sidenote on the bush dynasty, all you Nascar loving Bush fans realize that Prescott Bush (JR's grandpa) did the banking for the Nazi's in WWII, right? Read House of Bush, House of Saud to find out why the ambassador from Saudi Arabia, Prince Bandar has the nickname Bandar Bush.

    All the plastics we use are made from Oil. Every tire uses 7 gallons of oil in it. All the fertilizers we use are made from natural gas. All the pesticides are made from Oil. Because we have raped our land, and it is nothing more than a sponge onto which we pour oil to make it arable again, without this production would drop from 130 bushels per acre down to 30 bushels per acre. Transportation of the food on the roads that take tremendous amounts of oil to build and maintain in trucks that burn oil to factories that burn oil to process the food and package it in plastic made from oil then shipped out in more oil burning trucks to McDonald's where we drive our oil burning SUV's through the drive thru and take it home and sit in front of a brainwashing device powered either by coal or natural gas, all so we don't have to conversate with our neighbors. It's an elegant Orwellian scheme really. Not only do we eat oil, we think it.

    The fantasy is good for business, but folks, this way of life aint real.

    Welcome to the desert of the real. Climate change, destruction of the biosphere, air pollution, water pollution, drained aquafirs, dead coral reefs, wiped out fisheries, no more rain forrests, overpopulation, massive trade deficit leading to more debt that will have to be paid off by your kids because you are an irresponsible fool, dollar collapse, housing bubble burst, pension plans gone, resource wars -iraq is but a prelude to what is coming-,diseases, and mass famine. Subsequent generations 100 generations down the line will hate us.

    If you don't belive in the destruction of our environment to the point of not being able to sustain human life then I'll kindly point you to Peak Oil. The Saudi's have an expression for it. My father rode a camel, I drive a car, my son flies in a jet, his son will ride a camel. Peak Oil is going to reverse globalization, yah everyone knows there is plenty of the stuff left in the ground, the problem is oil production follows a bell curve, be it a single well, or a nation's production. After you extract 1/2 of the oil production declines, forever, every gallon of oil is harder to extract and of a lesser quality. Net energy (energy spent for energy returned) gets closer and closer to zero and when it becomes 1:1, the well is put out of production, that is why wells never really get sucke

  15. Re:It's because.... by admiralh · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How dare you suggest doing anything that might reduce the profits of Bush's friends in industry and reduce our dependence on Big Energy.

    Report to the nearest Republican re-education center at once.

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