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Human Animal Hybrid Created in Lab

guanno writes "National Geographic has an article stating that... "Scientists have begun blurring the line between human and animal by producing chimeras--a hybrid creature that's part human, part animal."

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  1. False Advertising by strider44 · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is false advertising - when most people think Chimera they think Dongeons and Dragons etc. They even have a picture of a lion with the head of a goat and the tail as a serpant.

    So I read this article and it talks about cells in petri dishes and mice with 1% human brains (which, from what I've read, is a bit of a downgrade).

    I think that there's no sense in starting an uproar over "creating new species" and "playing god" yet. A petri dish is ever so slightly different from a goat-lion-serpant or a girlfriend with the head of a shark.

    1. Re:False Advertising by trs9000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think that there's no sense in starting an uproar over "creating new species" and "playing god" yet.
      I sortof agree. But the question is, When is it okay? When can we become upset? It's a very hard line to draw. I think we should be constantly pushing forward and constantly questioning at the same time.
      Because what if they hit upon something? Which might be very useful? Or have ramifications we weren't prepared to deal with? Legislation and public reaction can move slow if the awareness isn't there.
      I do think that our sense of morals and ethics (as humans) has evolved over the years; I'm not sure I believe in absolute right or wrong. So, I'm down with breaking new ground and trying new things. But while these opinions and ethics may change slowly with time, we had better be aware of all the issues, all the potential ramifications and all the potential costs (monetary and other) before we bring these things to market so quickly [I'm looking at you, Monsanto!].

  2. From the RTFA department by shoolz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Before you all start concocting fantasies about bizarre creatures from the morally and ethically bankrupt future...

    For example, faulty human heart valves are routinely replaced with ones taken from cows and pigs. The surgery--which makes the recipient a human-animal chimera--is widely accepted

  3. Re:"Chimera" other uses of the word by arcanumas · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well chimera was a monster in the myths of ancient Greece.
    Chimera was beaten by Belerephontis (sp? i know the greek name only) and his horse, Pegasus.
    And ,you guessed it, it was " a monster with the head of a lion, body of a goat and the tail of a dragon"

    So it makes sense to use it in this context.

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  4. um island of dr moreau by josepha48 · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm sure I spelled this incorrectly, but I think you get the idea..

    Haven't these people seen the movie yet?

    First Glofish, now this... wtf!

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  5. Re:xenogenics by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Informative

    Our DNA, and the DNA of most multicellular animals are filled with viral leftovers. Researchers are investigating how such viral genes may influence evolution. It's nothing particular amazing.

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  6. Re:WHY?! by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Informative

    > We barely understand the human brain. Shouldn't
    > we grasp it a little more before we go shoving
    > them into other animals.

    It is to understand the human brain that researchers do this, for goodness sake.

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  7. Re:"Chimera" other uses of the word by TWX · · Score: 2, Informative

    That could be a real big problem, and might lead to a spontaneous miscarriage, especially if blood types are incompatible.

    There are a few known examples of XY/XX Chimeras if memory serves, though I don't really remember how physical characteristics developed.

    Scarier yet, there are conjoined twins that share what looks to be a single torso and legs, looking like one body with two heads. Apparently the girls have seperate ribcages and upper organs, but their backbones merge into a single pelvis, and their digestive systems combine somewhere in there. They each control one arm and one leg on each one's side of their body. Since the girls have always been this way they've gotten good at coordinating to allow them to function to the point of playing slowpitch softball with family. I don't doubt that life will always be difficult for them to keep individual, considering their extreme fusing, but they are mentally seperate.

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  8. Re:"Chimera" other uses of the word by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You might want to double-check that...

  9. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Killing any fetus before birth is an abortion. Pregnant dogs (aka "bitches") can have abortions.

  10. Re:It's not what you think by Avsen · · Score: 2, Informative

    The stegosaurus had much more brain-room than we did. Yet, it was as dumb as a rock. Intelligence is related closer to brain/body proportion than "absolute" brain size. Granted, these mice may not be talking or solving differential equations -- but we can't say anything about consciousness.

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  11. Re:How is this legal? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Informative

    because we have brains a few thousand times larger than mice, not because of any special virtue of our brain tissue, and our brain cells are certainly not going to be optimal for controlling a mouse's body and living as a mouse

    Wrong.

    Your argument at best is an oversimplification.

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  12. Re:Slashdot fears tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    I expected better from Slashdot, honestly.
    You must be new, here!
  13. Re:Moral consistency by dcw3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ever heard of the phrase "cow tipping?

    Ever done it? I'd bet a bundle you haven't! For those who believe this bullshit (pun intended), take a look at:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_tipping

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  14. Re:"Chimera" other uses of the word by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Consider it double-checked. I distinctly remember it from my biology textbook, I thought it was quite fascinating and did some further study. It is infact called Chimera as he describes.

  15. Re:How is this legal? by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Also, I read in the article that they're thinking of making a mouse with a human brain? I'm wondering a couple things. A) Is this mouse-person going to have the same experience as a human would, albeit in a mouse's body?"

    In a word, no. *Really* RTFA: "Before being born, the mice would be killed and dissected to see if the architecture of a human brain had formed. If it did, he'd look for traces of human cognitive behavior."

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  16. Re:How is this legal? by king-manic · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Japanese discovered many new and interestign things about ballistics by shooting chinese civilians. the death toll in china from the japanese occupation range from 20-30 million.

    Also, A lot of America's golden age of the 50's came directly out of stolen german scientists and science. Mengala actually contributed a lto to modern medicine btu through horribl horrible research. Nasa owes the German rocket program a lot, and at the time the Germans were two generations ahead of everybody else in almost every field except crytography and physics.

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  17. Re:Eh..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Chimeras are not a new concept; my high school biology textbook mentions the technique, and it's 11 years old now. I suspect that human chimeras have been tried before. Being first on the record isn't the same as being first.

  18. Uplift War by LaoTzePhuuk · · Score: 2, Informative
  19. They've been doing it for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Just FYI I've been working on patents for this technology for over 10 years (and I entered into the field well after they'd started on these explorations). Science has been producing these chimeras for some time; the fact that the technology is being publicly reported in this way means that some people are obviously ready to start business plans and profit from the research. Original technology tended to focus on practical applications such as developing "materials" for various military, industrial and research purposes, robotics and computers etc. (brains and other body parts); and for adaptations to experiment with developing controlled food sources and medical/health controls (as Monsanto and others are now doing with patenting food crops and explorations into tying that into developing food animals and humans genetically requiring those specific food crops or being unable to consume other natural food sources; or requiring use of medical products they hold the patents and production rights on). Some of it could be beneficial; some is evil for the sake of The Mighty Dollar and other dark purposes. But there's no stopping it.