Slashdot Mirror
Mandrakelinux 10.2 Beta 1 Toured
Anonymous Coward writes "The first beta of Mandrakelinux 10.2 has been released. New package versions and features include some changes to the installation program, kernel 2.6.10, glibc 2.3.4 and gcc 3.4.3. You also get KDE 3.3.2, Gnome, 2.8.1, and GTK 2.6.1. Mozilla-firefox replaces Mozilla, and you will also find gimp 2.2, cdrecord 2.01.01a21 with DVD+R Dual Layers support, OpenOffice.org 1.1.4, Postgresql 8.0, and MySQL 4.1.9. Improvements are also seen in the Mandrakelinux Control Center ergonomy, to ease the network configuration with a better integration of the firewall tool. OSDir tours Mandrakelinux 10.2 Beta 1 with GNOME and KDE in their Screenshot Tours."
I don't understand why they always release new version numbers for incremental improvements in packages.
Website
Does this also mean it comes with Thunderbird to replace the mail?
:)
I like the idea of Mozilla as a whole suite of applications, that way you dont have to install multiple applications, when web+email are the 2 more popular applications. To each his own I guess, Thunderbird is rather nice and works with my exchange server (imap).
Also.
In the next betas, you will be able to copy all the CDs packages on your hard drive, so that you will not need the CDs anymore afterwards to install a new package with urpmi or rpmdrake. Moreover the installation will allow to boot from a USB key (if you cannot boot with a CD), and to save the packages selection on a USB key.
Nice, I actually took my cdrom out of my linux box but it has a USB port. Handy, now to test usb booting.
Even if you wanted too you cant order it from MandrakeStore as its not availiable , you dont whant to test a Beta its seems you prefer the final version for testing
Jacques Le Marois/Darth Le Marois is going to solve the problem he is turning the extremely Money making MandrakeClub into a loosing money project second cooker where you get to pay to contribute
Off course everyone who use Mandrake is on brodband
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
One important difference between Mandrake and other distros is that it's compiled for recent processors instead of the works-everywhere 386 target. Which in theory should make some difference in performance, but you never hear anything about that.
I don't understand about new package versions being a reason to call it a new OS (I know they have more, but it should even be one of the reasons).
Not trolling, but genuinly wondering, when they say the new version has "new $version of gimp, Oo.o, etc. etc." does that mean that they don't package them when they are released but instead when it suits Mandrake's release schedule?
# cat
Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
It's a bit slow to boot and to run, and I don't like some bits of it like the control centre, but it's can be good for newbies...
That said, I tried several distributions (starting with Mandrake 9.2 and returning to later version of Mandrake) dual-boot when I was still using Windows, and Gentoo was the first that I actually used more than Windows. After using Fedora and Mandrake, I actually thought that Linux boot up times were inevitably longer than Windows.
# cat
Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
And off course it has nothing to do with your setup and everything to do with the choice of the distribution ... cynical here.
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
New distribution , not new OS ... its still GNU/Linux.
Unlike Gentoo ( your distro of choice) wich as no paid developper to work on it and Debian wich release once in every 4 blue moon ( every 3 years ).Commercial distribution make a deadline and release whats avaliable at that time.
Also a Distribution release and what software are
available for that distributiona are two different things.
firefox 0.98 might be in the release , but once firefox 1.0 is out it is available for the distribution.
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
word for word for link copy of this post
http://www.tuxme.com/node/359
I'll take spam, eggs, eggs and spam for $200 Alex...
Exactly. I mean, if you boot Fedora or Mandrake into single user mode I'd imagine it will be every bit as fast as whatever your Gentoo setup is. Or if you turn on as many services on your Gentoo machine as comes standard on a default Fedora or Mandrake install then your Gentoo machine will probably boot just as slow.
Of course with Gentoo you get the leetness of needing to do everything by hand. But if you don't like the Mandrake control center, then feel free to be just as leet on Mandrake and do things by hand there.
As for Mandrake being slow, my guess is it's just the -O7 --ultimate compiler flag placebo effect of Gentoo.
Free will is just an illusion
Flamebait?
Offtopic or Funny I get but FB?
Actually thats [sic] assuming that you can turn on as many service [sic] as is available on Mandrake on Gentoo , [sic] its [sic] not the case [sic] there [sic] not available.
Actually, portage has the largest collection of software available of any package management system I've ever used, and yes, I ran Mandrake before I switched to Gentoo.
Also , if you dont know how to setup a system , thats why its going to be slow to boot , on any system. (I'm not going to take the time to notate the errors in this quote.)
This is true; however, my experience with Mandrake was that a lot of services are on by default, whereas with Gentoo you have to explicitly install and enable the services you want.
As for the Gentoo speed bulshit [sic] its [sic] already been proven to be just that [sic] bulshit [sic].
I would like to see some citations of this. Though I'd also like to point out that the draw of Gentoo is not the supposed speed increase, at least not for me. It's the USE flags.
"You're older than you've ever been, and now you're even older."
I've recently tried Mandrake 10.1 and Suse 9.1, and neither of them could mount my ext hdd properly(160GB formatted with FAT32, tried one big partition, and also tried multiple 30GB partitions). When it mounted it opened 4 windows, regardless of how many partitions there were, and none of them could be read. Also, it would only automount when logged in as root. It took them long enough to make USB memory sticks accessible as User, I thought they would have been smart enough to make ext hdd's accessible as well.
I want to upgrade to GNOME 2.8.1 and Evolution 2.0.1 , but apt-get keeps reporting broken dependencies. I want to keep my Debian 3.0r1 install, but update those desktop packages. What can I do?
--
make install -not war
Is it my imagination, or are the number of modems supported actually decreasing?
Hurry Mandrake, before Gnome 2.10 is released!! :-p
Give him a break with the "[sic]"s, he's Canadian. They don't know much aboot good English, eh?
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
How is answering with the truth flamebait ?
,they also dont have them available because they dont know some of them exists.
Gento does not have as many service as is available on Mandrake , they could have them but they dont whant to include them
If you dont know how to set up a system its going to be slow , its a fact
Gento like to say that there distribution and software run faster due to compilation they believe are not availaible on Mandrake when the same compilation method are availaible for Mandrake. Thats why there not faster and why its bulshit.
Feel free to proove otherwise.
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America
There are more services availaible on Mandrake.
Service is two thing
a software wich start an action in the background so that you dont have to do it yourself everytime. Mandrake as More of those included in there Distribution.
Its also the term commercial company use to describe the work they offer you to support there product for a fee or for free ( as in no cost ). Mandrake also as more of those.
Mandrake as the most largest collection of software (790 000 availaible , mostly du by being rpm based and also being compatible with Red Hat , SuSe , Colectiva , etc
On Mandrake you have a high security default and a Military style default availaible , both of wich have no service started , Gentoo as no default or automatic security setting.
Every test that as proven Gentoo to be superior to Mandrake as been proven to be a scam.
- 2.4.5 Linux kernel in Gentoo VS 2.4.1 in Mandrake
when 2.4.5 availaible in Mandrake VS the one available in Gentoo whas used , Mandrake whas proven to be 2-4 time faster.
Gimp in Mandrake VS Gimp in Gento + some flags
When Mandrake used the same flags used by Gentoo again Mandrake whas proven to be 2-4 time faster then Gentoo.
Mandrake does have what all the other distribution offer and have and then some more that they dont , the others cant and whont do the same as Mandrake.
Keep spreading the lies about Gentoo , its going to bring back Daniel Robbins and the 20k he add to pay out of is own pocket because Gentoo user are more inteligent and work more and support more there Distribution then Mandrake Users do.
( I whas beeing cynical on that last part )
I am a REAL American from Canada , not a wanna-be from the country , self called "last remaining superpower" "of America