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WiFi Hotspots to Cost Wireless Carriers $12B

j.e. writes "Commercial WiFi hotspots and open WiFi networks will take about $12 billion out of wireless carrier revenue pie, says Starategy Analytics. With high prices of mobile data services from wireless carriers, the users are more prone to use a cheap WiFi connection, if one is available."

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  1. In other news by Danimoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    things cost money...

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    1. Re:In other news by White+Roses · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In other other news, when given a choice between otherwise highly similar products, consumers will choose to pay less money . . .

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    2. Re:In other news by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tap water costs the bottled water industry billions.

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    3. Re:In other news by drooling-dog · · Score: 5, Funny
      when given a choice between otherwise highly similar products, consumers will choose to pay less money

      Obviously said by someone who hasn't met my girlfriend...

  2. Having used Cingular's EDGE plan. by Eunuch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used the EDGE from Cingular wireless data plan. $80 (0x50 dollars) a month! It worked decent but the worst part was the latency. I was getting 1-2 second latencies. Do not try to game with it at all. Yet I'd still like a single everywhere-network rather than dealing with lots of accounts with various wi-fi hotspots. If they could just get the latency down and improve reception (if your cell is showing half power don't even bother with trying data).

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  3. Statistics Bullshit by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sounds like crap statistics if I've ever heard them. Cost $12 billion is a little different than "Won't make $12 billion because the services are overpriced."

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  4. An analogy by DamienMcKenna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "With all these free radio stations people won't buy our records."

    "With all these free movies on TV people won't go to the movies."

    Having said that, cellphone service is nowhere near what it should be in terms of reliability and quality. How many of the main carriers allow you to do what you want with your phone (e.g. bluetooth restrictions in many phones) and your service (forward messages & voicemail via email, etc)?

    Damien

  5. Boo Hoo by jgerry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get a better business model. Or better yet, just go away. Just because people want something, doesn't mean they have to pay YOU to get it. More and more, they may not have to pay at all (open WiFi access points, Linux, etc).

  6. Don't think so by DustyShadow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I won't buy wireless service from a provider and this has nothing to do with wi-fi hotspots. I've never even used a wi-fi hotspot. The main reason that I won't buy wireless service from a provider is because of the insane price. I'm sure most people are in my boat.

  7. WiFi Hotspots to Cost Wireless Carriers $12B by stendec · · Score: 4, Funny
    WiFi Hotspots to Cost Wireless Carriers $12B

    They shouldn't have bought all those hotspots if they're going to complain about the price! It's amazing how stupid some people can be.

  8. This is step 1 by ENOENT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Step 2 is getting laws against free WiFi accessed passed in Congress.

    Hey, it worked for the RIAA!!!

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  9. wireless overpriced by dslbrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Poster forgot some words, it should read:

    With the artificially inflated exorbitantly high prices of mobile data services from wireless carriers, the users are more prone to use a cheap WiFi connection, if one is available.

    No sympathy for wireless carriers here, now they get to suffer for their own bad pricing plans...

  10. headline should read... by sootman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Wireless carriers will not earn $12B because better options exist."

    Note: you can't lose what you don't yet have.

    Interesting fact: you are not entitled to a profit. If your business model sucks, or if your product is too costly, it will fail. See also: airphones. Remember them? All gone now, because using cell phones (which everyone already has) before and after the flight is good enough.

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  11. *vroom* by Willow_mt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm getting the sudden urge to go wardriving...

  12. Outside the US by Datasage · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are some places in the world were gprs is a cheaper option to dialup. For my girlfriend in jakarta, the dialup option charges her for how much time she spends online. While she can get unlimted access via gprs for about $20-$30 per month from indosat. Other than some major latency and connection issues to a couple sites, she can get dialup speeds pretty easily.

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  13. What about me? by tyler_larson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've already lost trillions on my canned-air venture this year alone. I figured that, as vital as breathing air is, people would be willing to pay my reasonable rate of $200 per cubic foot.

    Apparently there's a free alternative that people are taking advantage of, driving my company out of business. How can I undersell free? Better label those free-breathers out there as "air pirates" and start a "get the facts" campaign about the total-cost-of-breathing.

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    1. Re:What about me? by MAdMaxOr · · Score: 5, Funny

      1/2 liter per breath
      = 0.017657 cu. ft. / breath
      = $3.5314 / breath
      = $42.4 / person /minute
      = $22,273,246 person / year
      = $1.56 * 10^17 / planet / year

      Looks like you lost about 156 quadrillion dollars!

  14. Moderate Insightful by Blackbrain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This should be +5 insightful, not funny. It is only a matter of time before some "media friendly" senator attaches a rider to an education package that bans open WiFi access. Or more likely, a Homeland Security bill because Terroists might use open WiFi links in an attack.

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  15. Misleading title by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should read, "WiFi to save wireless users $12B", or "WiFi to get up to $12B slice of wireless pie".

    Not making as much revenue as predicted is not a "cost".

  16. Aw jeez, it's the RIAA all over again by serutan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll believe wireless carriers lose $12 billion when I see their gross revenue actually drop by $12 billion. As our massive experience with file downloads and other things has shown, many if not most of the people who use a free service either wouldn't use it if it weren't free, or are already paying for the same service from someone else anyway.

    I wish wireless carriers and others would grow up and quit whining when people figure out that their products and services can be had for free.

  17. Misleading Title by tom's+a-cold · · Score: 4, Informative

    I spent $10 on a bottle of wine. So should the headline read "Wine purchase costs banana growers $10"?

    It's the same logic the RIAA and MPAA use, and it's fallacious.

    It's not their money. It's not being taken from them. It's not costing them shit. It's just diverting money they think should be theirs to other, more worthwhile. uses. But there's no real evidence that it ever would have been spent on what they have to sell, rather than saved, or spent on any other thing in the world that can be bought.

    These people's sense of entitlement to what they haven't earned is sickening. Bunch of corporate welfare scroungers. Next they'll go whining for the government to seize the money for them.

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