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Build Your Own Self-Balancing Unicycle

CaptainKaos[DOH!] writes "Robot hacker Trevor Blackwell is at it again, this time with a self-balancing Eunicycle. Blackwell writes, 'Some time ago I built a self-balancing two-wheeled scooter. Since then I realized that two wheels are redundant, and only a single wheel is needed to make a ridable vehicle. A vehicle with a single wheel is much smaller and lighter. It weighs under 30 lbs and is easily carried with one hand when going up stairs or on public transportation.' Trevor's previous 'Segway' type two-wheeler was mentioned on Slashdot."

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  1. Animal Pharm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    One wheel good, two wheels bad!

    1. Re:Animal Pharm by jtbauki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe one day people will realize ZERO wheels is the best...and start walking.

    2. Re:Animal Pharm by game+kid · · Score: 5, Funny

      All unicycles are equal (but some equalize themselves more than others).

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    3. Re:Animal Pharm by mboverload · · Score: 2, Informative
      That is an ingenius reference to George Orwell's famous book, Animal Farm.

      In the book the pigs say "4 legs good, two legs bad", in reference to animals having four legs (good) and humans having 2 legs (bad).

  2. Half a Segway... by mangu · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...will be half as useful, and still cost $5k...

    1. Re:Half a Segway... by civman2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      RTFW $1500 for parts. It looks kind of cool, only I'm pretty sure it takes more skill to ride one of these than a Segway. I can just imagine all the bumps and bruises people would get on these things. The guy in the video has to have his arms out for balance all the time.

  3. Torrent for video by redhat421 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can find a torrent for the video here: Park-all.lowbw.mpg.torrent

  4. Brian Blessed voice: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I misread that as a eunuchcycle. clicky

    1. Re:Brian Blessed voice: What? by mtrisk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Eunuchs would certainly have no problems sitting on one.

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  5. The practical use is? by freralqqvba · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I have a strong bias towards building products that people buy for their own use." -Trevor

    I too support people killing themselves. But, really - couldn't we find a more effective method?

    1. Re:The practical use is? by Quixote · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The practical use is?

      None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Absolutely Zero.

      He built it because he wanted to! This is how you learn: by experimenting, by taking things apart and putting them back together, etc. Doing such hobby projects is a great learning experience.

    2. Re:The practical use is? by gunnk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      THANK YOU! I wish I had mod points at the moment to mod you up!!!

      I've seen so many posts along the lines of "why bother?", "what good is it?", and "what a waste of time" that I was beginning to wonder if any geeks were still hanging out on Slashdot.

      No, it isn't marketable. No, it won't revolutionize transportation. No, it sin't even particularly practical.

      But it is quite an accomplishment! What a COOL thing to do! Like so many real geeks he did it because he could.

      Until I hit your post I had begun to feel in a very small minority of people that understand why you do something like this. Then again, I've always loved doing the impractical just to see if I could...

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  6. That just doesn't look comfortable... by gandell · · Score: 3, Funny

    Besides the crotch-punishing bicycle seat, you have to ride with your arms out beside you. Sure, that's great for exercise freaks, but what about us lazy folk? Segway?

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    1. Re:That just doesn't look comfortable... by HyperChicken · · Score: 3, Insightful

      First too lazy to walk, then too lazy to hold your arms out? What's next? Too lazy to stand up?

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    2. Re:That just doesn't look comfortable... by game+kid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Isn't evolution great?

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    3. Re:That just doesn't look comfortable... by wwest4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      With a fair amount of practice, it's possible to ride a normal unicycle without a lot of arm flailing, so it's fair to say that the same is true for this contraption.

      Just like a bike, a smoothly driven uni wheel gives you lateral stability at speed (due to gyroscopic force). It's forward and back balance that keeps your arms doing funny dances at the beginning... eventually, you build core muscle memory and do it with less arm movement. The arms end up moving more or less the same way as when you are walking... in counterstep with your leg movements.

  7. One wheel is one wheel too many...... by Urger · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, when does the 0 wheel version come out? But to be more serious...very, very cool.

    1. Re:One wheel is one wheel too many...... by Tuirn · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want my hover bike.

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  8. So THAT's what they were riding ... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A self-balancing power unicycle.

    So THAT's what the maintenance crew / army was riding (on the under-road access paths) in Heinlein's _The Roads Must Roll_.

    Maybe RH can stop spinning in his grave now that tech is catching up to his earliest stories.

    Good work, Trevor!

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  9. Well by cubicledrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's another person with "too much time on their hands." The yuppie sophisticates will no doubt complain that people who invent "have no life" and really should be sitting in their $28,000 bought-on-credit living room watching celebrity bug-eating in high definition surround sound. [/sarcasm]

    Then everyone else will bitch and gripe because the new invention didn't live up to the media hype and dismiss it all as the equivalent of a circus act. The fact they made it a circus act will, of course, be forgotten in time for the next "you could have this if you had a job" advertisement for something else to buy on credit.

    People who spend their time doing anything except shoveling money into the local yuppie grill or sipping white wine while they watch prime time commercials occasionally interrupted by a screaming carnival barker are routinely criticized by our society because society has nothing but contempt for imagination and vision, unless it involves some dramatic amount of money.

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  10. Very true... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Since then I realized that two wheels are redundant, and only a single wheel is needed to make a ridable vehicle. A vehicle with a single wheel is much smaller and lighter.

    Yeah man....I've realized something....those 4 wheeled busses are a pain to ride in. Can't get any damned seats anywhere.

    I need something smaller and lighter...like a 1 wheeled bus. That'll surely be painless to ride in and easy to carry around.

    Mod +5 beers *hic8

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    1. Re:Very true... by Reneumann · · Score: 2, Funny

      They tried this on Monster Garage. It's just a big motorized wheel you sit inside; for a bus, I suppose it would have to be ferris-wheel sized. The guy raced it down the street, spun out and crashed awfully into a tree. Good times.

  11. At speed should be able to steer by leaning, too. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Trevor mentions that you control speed by leaning forward/backward and steer by twisting your body. This is appropriate for low speeds.

    But as with a bicycle or motor cycle, at higher speeds you can steer by leaning. For instance:

    - Lean right.
    - Force on the axle is translated to motion 90 degrees offset in the wheel's direction of rotation, causing the wheel to gradually precess to the right, gradually turning the vehicle.

    Twisting continues to work but differently - in reverse and one stage of integration removed:

    - Gently push forward on the right handlebar, as if turning left. (There should be a body-twisting motion to produce an equivalent on the unicycle.)
    - Force on the axle is translated to motion 90 degrees offset in the wheel's direction of rotation, causing the wheel to gradually precess to lean progressively more to the right. (Stop pushing the handlebars when you're tilted as much as you want.)
    - Tilting the wheel moves the center of gravity to the right, causing the vehicle and rider's weight to apply a force on the axle, as with the "lean right" case above.
    - When you've turned far enough, gently push forward on the LEFT handlebar (or do the opposite body-twist) to undo the lean.

    This only works at moderate-to-high speeds, when the gyroscopic effect is adequate. And it works at much lower speeds on a motorcycle than a bicycle due to the greater gyroscopic effect from the heavy wheels. (It's hard to get a bike going fast enough to do this.)

    Try it out on a motorcycle: Find a nice flat, straight, country road with good pavement and no traffic. Get moving maybe 25 MPH, and balanced well enough that you can open your hand around the handgrip and steer by leaning. Once you've got that working, try just barely touching the back of one handle to push it forward.

    Once you get the hang of it you can use it to perform extremely abrupt turns on the 'cycle. A stiff push causes the cycle to suddenly drop into a steep bank and begin a tight turn. A stiff push the other way pops it back upright and traveling straight. The banking is just right to keep you stuck to your seat and turning at a constant rate while applying no twisting force to the handlebars. Very relaxed while performing extreme manouvers, since the only muscular effort is used when you CHANGE your RATE OF TURN. (But don't overdoit and break traction or you'll go down.)

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  12. B.C. cartoon by erroneus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hehe... that sort of reminds me of the method of transport used by one of the characters in the B.C. cartoon series. (Anyone here know what I'm referring to?)

  13. um by Shaklee39 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    30 lbs is light? Any decent 2-wheel road bike can be found at under 25lbs while a mountain bike is around 28.

    1. Re:um by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now put a motor and battery on that bike. You'll be lucky to get under 50lbs.

  14. bombardier embrio by Frogg · · Score: 2, Informative

    cool--what this guy has built is similar in nature to the 'bombardier embrio' concept motorbike.

    articles with pics here and here

  15. combat robotics parts (Battlebots) by rich42 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Anyone else notice that several items on his parts list were originally developed for combat robotics?

    I use "Robot Power" speed controllers and "Battlepack" batteries in several of my bots...

  16. How is this better than a normal unicycle? by erice · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While the 2-wheeled scooter is easy to ride (I've let maybe 100 people ride it with few problems) the Eunicycle takes a good deal of practice. You don't want to be learning how to control such a vehicle at the same time as debugging it, so you really need to learn to ride a regular unicycle first.

    Once you've learned to ride a unicyle competently, why not just ride it. It's are a lot cheaper and lighter than the Eunicycle.

    This dosen't sound compable to a Segway at all. I thought the point of the Segway was that the lack of a learning curve. Eliminate that and you may as well use simpler machines like skates and unicycle.

    Oh, and your feet should not hurt from skating. If they do, either your skates don't fit or your are doing it wrong.

  17. Subject is wrong by Elrond,+Duke+of+URL · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you read the article, you will see that this is more of a semi-Segway. It is *NOT* self-balancing. It's still a unicycle, and you still need to know how to ride a unicycle and keep your balance.

    What this does do is use a gyroscope and sensor to detect when the rider leans forward or backwards and then accelerates or decelerate the wheel.

    It's still a really neat contraption, though.

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  18. Yes. by tunabomber · · Score: 3, Funny

    I too support people killing themselves. But, really - couldn't we find a more effective method?

    Well, when it comes to unicycle-related methods of facilitating suicide,
    Microsoft's way ahead of Trevor. Now THAT's innovation!

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  19. Google Cache of site by SimCityHippy · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:4K9GC46wUkAJ:tl b.org/eunicycle.html+&hl=en

  20. <sigh> How hard is it to actually link?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
  21. Re:At speed should be able to steer by leaning, to by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 4, Informative
    Gyroscopic effects are not the reason that works. You're thinking too hard. Turning the handlebars left is merely a way to lean right. It works at any speed, without any gyroscopic force, and is a necessary part of bike riding for everybody. (I believe that this simple fact is the one thing that you must "get" subconsciously when you first learn to ride a bicycle.)

    Turning by leaning does require gyroscopic force, but not in the way you describe. It is required to allow you to change your center of gravity by leaning. On a bike with no centrifugal force (a stopped bike), you cannot change your center of gravity by just leaning without turning the handlebars. If you could, it would be easy to sit upright on a stopped bike.

    When gyroscopic force enters the equation, it does allow you to change your center of gravity by merely leaning your body. Once you lean to the right and move your center of gravity to the right, you start falling over to the right. The reason you don't fall over completely is that the wheel also turns to the right of its own accord, which turns you and brings it back under the moved center of gravity. But the main reason for the turning not gyroscopic force; the real reason is the fact that the turning axis for the front wheel is not vertical. This means that when the bike is leaning to the right, the front wheel has a natural tendancy to turn right, even when stationary. Imagine a bike on its kickstand; the wheel is always turned in the direction of the lean, right? That's not a coincidence. This is the reason why you will never see a bike with a straight vertical rod connecting the front wheel to the handlebars. (or if you do see one, it will be quite hard to ride, and look stupid to boot...) Gyroscopic force also has an effect here, but it is not the main player.

    I found a cool site that explains it all: Motorcycle stability and steering.

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  22. Re:Hey by rawket.scientist · · Score: 2, Funny

    When he gomes out with a robot with out wheels, then I will be impressed. (It also has to move, no cheating.) The next one will have treads!

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  23. Re:At speed should be able to steer by leaning, to by ari_j · · Score: 2, Informative

    This article on counter-steering is easier to follow, I think. The picture helps. ;)

  24. Re:Disappointed by Mazem · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the unicycling world there is a contraption known as a "BC Wheel" (sometimes called "The Impossible Wheel"). It got its name from the famed BC comic mode of transportation. Basically its a wheel with pegs or platforms that stick out from a freewheeling axle. The idea is that you roll it, jump on, and try to maintain balance.

    While it may look "impossible" to people who have never learned how to ride it , BC wheels are actually quite ridable with a few weeks of practice and many in the Unicycling underground (yes this is for real! - check out this video) can do all sorts of tricks on it like jumping from wheel to wheel and riding it on trails.

  25. Re:A design flaw by omry_y · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Segway uses a gyroscope to do just that, and I guess this unicycle thingie does the same.
    you might ask how a gyroscope helps, but think why you can balance a boiled egg on its tip by spinning it quickly round the long axis.
    gyro works the same way, only the axis does not have to be vertical, it can also be horizontal, and there can be more than one gyroscopes, so you "lock" certain axises, and get the balance you need.

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