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Netscape 8 to Emphasize Security

wikinerd writes "Netscape is building Netscape 8 which will include several anti-phishing enhancements and will emphasize security. Netscape obtains blacklists of scam and spam sites which will be denied access to ActiveX and cookies. RSS capabilities will also be included in Netscape 8, which will be released on 17 February."

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  1. Why not just use Firefox? by cflorio · · Score: 4, Informative
    In November, Netscape released the first test, or "alpha," version of its new browser based on Mozilla's Firefox software.

    1. Re:Why not just use Firefox? by superyooser · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is, but it can also use IE's rendering engine. I am a beta tester. See my post under the last Netscape story.

  2. Re:ActiveX on Netscape by tigershark97 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The new Netscape lets you choose between the gecko engine or IE's engine to render any page. You can have a few tabs open rendered by gecko, and a few tabs by IE, at the same time.

  3. Re:i dont get it by sremick · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. None of these are based off Netscape.

    Netscape 4 was the last Netscape that stood from the orignial lineage.

    Netscape 5 was begun and the source released. The Mozilla open-source project was formed. They took a look at the Netscape 5 source, and gave up on it, deciding to start over. Although the Mozilla "suite" was made to work/look like Netscape, it was new code.

    Mozilla was developed for a while. The first public release was "M3" (I used it). Later on they changed from "M"(ilestone) releases to version numbers. I think it was version 0.6 that Netscape then used as the basis for Netscape 6.0 (which flopped). We saw a Netscape 6.1 later, based upon a later release of Mozilla (0.9.2) ... it was a lot better than 6.0.

    Netscape 7 was based upon Mozilla 1.0.1, a much better (recent) version of Mozilla. The current version of Netscape, 7.2, is based upon Mozilla 1.7.2.

    Firefox is based upon Mozilla, not Netscape.

    There have so far been no Netscape browsers based upon Firefox. Netscape 8 will be the first.

  4. Re:i dont get it by bofkentucky · · Score: 4, Informative

    Browser Family Tree

    In the begining there was NCSA and its child mosaic, and all was good, but Marc got greedy and formed Netscape 1.0 from Mosaic and made lots of money
    And lo, BillG had released windows 4.0 to the world, known as 95, but it had not a browser, so it purchased spyglass, who had built another browser based on mosaic, this abomination was internet explorer 1 and it sucked
    And internet explorer 2 sucked as well, but 3 was a decent browser that had basic support for CSS and what we call ActiveX today
    Netscape 2 and 3 were giants, but Netscape 4 and IE 4 were of equal strength, and then AOL purchased Netscape.
    Netscape began to decline as it fell behind, IE5 and 5.5 were much faster the 4.5 and 4.7 of netscape, but there was a new day dawning, AOL saw fit to release the preliminary code of Netscape 5 to the world.
    But this code did suck very much, so the mozilla foundation, with help of many netscape employees began writing a browser essentially from scratch
    this took time and IE got faster, but people started using its holes to exploit windows boxes around the globe
    And lo Mozilla starting releasing builds, called milestones, and some were good and some were evil, but they became stronger, until netscape took one of the milestones and released netscape 6.
    And it was good, but people had forgotten about netscape, so they ignored it
    And mozilla worked on until it released 1.0 and people celebrated
    And Netscape released 7.0, which was Mozilla 1.0 with some of the features turned off, and some people switched fleeing the pestilence following internet explorer.
    And mozilla toiled away until 1.4, and netscape took of this and released netscape 7.1
    Now some in the mozilla community wanted to build a new browser that was lighter than Mozilla, ready to do battle with Microsoft, and they called themselves phoenix, but the could not use that name due to copyright
    So they changed their name to firebird, but they could not use that name either
    So they settled on firefox, but as they kept changing their name, they were releasing very good web browsers
    And mozilla kept working until 1.7 came, and netscape released 7.2, and firefox synced their trunk to the mozilla 1.7 branch.
    And development began quickly on firefox, through 0.7, 0.8, and 0.9, until 1.0 came, and 20 million downloaded it.
    AOL saw the favor firefox had with the people and coveted it, so they made a beta based on Firefox, and it was ok.
    And now Netscape is poined to release netscape 8 which is really Firefox 1.0, but mozilla is still working on 1.8 and IE is going nowhere.

    Corrections and additions apprecitated, especially for Opera's, Safari's, and Konquerer's lineages

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  5. First things first by jalefkowit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Based on the interface I saw in the preview version, it might be better if they concentrated on not sucking first.

    The "Netscape Browser Preview" had the most God-awful UI I've seen in a desktop app in a long, long time. It was like they went out of their way to avoid learning the big lesson from the success of Firefox (which was keep it simple, stupid), preferring instead to chrome it up six ways to Sunday.

    They even pushed the menu bar over to the right side of the screen -- in complete defiance of the way every other app does it. Who goes to look for "File", "Edit", etc. over there? Nobody. So there's years of muscle memory that you have to un-learn to be productive with the thing.

    Their ActiveX "solution" sounds similar. Why go to all the trouble of keeping blacklists, etc. when there is a much simpler and easier for users to understand solution at hand -- just leave ActiveX out of the default install altogether, and offer it as a plugin. Users who need ActiveX for vertical apps are also likely to have sysadmins handy to keep their network secure, so installing a plugin is no big deal. Everybody else, why do they need ActiveX? The only ActiveX control I've seen in mainstream use in years is FilePlanet's download manager, and they offer standard downloads for the ActiveX-challenged, too, so you could ditch ActiveX without too much pain there as well.

    Somebody put a silver bullet in the zombie corpse of Netscape already before it embarrasses its legacy any further...