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Linux in a World Where Windows 3.0 Never Happened

covertbadger writes "Larry Osterman said farewell yesterday to David Weise, the developer he credits with getting applications to run in protected mode on Windows 3.0, which led directly to Microsoft choosing to push Windows instead of OS/2. Today he speculates on what the IT world would be like if Weise had never completed this work. Windows 95 would never have existed, OS/2 would be the de facto standard, and IBM would never have put weight behind Linux because it had its own operating system to push."

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  1. Who is to say someone else wouldn't have by Shnizzzle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    put weight behind Linux? Maybe Apple goes that route instead of using Darwin.

    1. Re:Who is to say someone else wouldn't have by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 5, Informative

      It seems like some people don't know the story there.

      Back in the mid-90s, Apple developed their own port of Linux running on Power Mac hardware. It was called MkLinux. Apple shipped a number of developer releases.

      The problem was that, compared to the work Apple was doing on what would eventually become XNU, the Linux work was just not very encouraging, particularly in the area of device drivers. The Linux modular kernel model was also inferior to XNU's. So when it came time to choose a kernel for their new operating system, Apple dropped Linux like a hot potato and chose XNU with I/O Kit instead.

      This Web page gives a decent very high-level overview of how XNU was designed, explaining why it was a better fit than Linux for a robust, general-purpose, reliable operating system. Of course, Apple's Darwin documentation is the best source for up-to-date information.

  2. warning by X43B · · Score: 5, Funny

    IBM evil (again) and no Linux? I think you're going to blow a lot of /.'s minds.

  3. "What if?" can be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Yeah, "What if?" can be fun, especially when you apply it to wars. What if Hitler had never invaded Russia? What if he had invaded Britian earlier in the war? Fun, if you're in that mind set.

    This one is a little bit too "If" for my liking; it goes back a little too far and tries to extrapolate too much. None the less, it's an interesting read.

    So heres some more:
    • What if AT&T never sued and BSD386 had been completed?
    • What if MULTICS hadn't been cancelled?
    • What if Dave Cutler didn't join the NT group at Microsoft?
    • What if Ed Roberts laughed Paul Allan out of MITS with their BASIC interpreter?
    • What if the Lisp Machines/Symbolics split had never happened and the hacker stayed at the MIT lab?
    1. Re:"What if?" can be fun by SydShamino · · Score: 5, Informative

      Are you implying that, if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia, Stalin would have had enough extra troops after WWII to move into the northern Europe, occupying Sweden and Finland? Then, given how many more US troops were required to defeat Hitler without Soviet help, the United States was left in a weaker position compared to USSR that later prevented the Soviet collapse in 1991?

      In other words, if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia, Linux today would be greatly changed because Linus would have been a Soviet citizen in a communist state?

      "What if" scenarios are fun...

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    2. Re:"What if?" can be fun by elgatozorbas · · Score: 5, Funny

      What it all these nerds had girlfriends? /. would not have existed!

    3. Re:"What if?" can be fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, I was about to mod this whole thread "Offtopic," but you managed to draw a connection between Third Reich historical speculation and Linus Torvalds. Sir, I salute you!

  4. Fallacy of the Never Happened by Speare · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There's a fallacy in imagining a world where a particular person never completed a particular invention. In short, it skips the notion that someone else would have invented it instead.

    If Ungh Blungh didn't invent the wheel, some other proto-Sapiens halfwit would have invented it in the following year. It's not like there was a shortage of halfwits in the golden crescent.

    If Henry Ford didn't invent the assembly-line production model, someone else would have invented it in the following decade. It's not like there was a shortage of development in the industrial arena.

    If this developer at Microsoft didn't fix "enhanced mode" Windows, then some other developer at Microsoft would have. It's not like Microsoft was aching for cash to hire smart developers to tinker with 80386 instruction sets.

    The size and complexity of an invention AND its environment are also key: If Linus never wrote a whole and usable kernel and published it, chances are that no other homebrew kernel would have grown with the same fervor. The complexity of the task, and the complexity of the eco-political forces at work, helped to spur the adoption in a unique way.

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  5. Re:Hmm by mirko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple, or Be ?
    In 1996 BeOS stood as the most promising environment around.
    There was also RiscOS, BTW. which could have gone very far (it's actually present in loads of set top boxen).

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  6. Remember Back To The Future 2? by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where Old Biff steals the DeLorean and gives the Sports Almanac to young Biff? Then Doc and Marty come back to a hellish timeline where Biff is a billionaire.

    I think something like that happened, where old Bill goes back in time and gives young Bill some tips on how to get lucky in the IT world, plus some source code for Windows 3.0. And we're living in the nightmarish timeline that was created.

    Only Doc and Marty can save us now. Or Linux. Whichever does it first :)

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  7. Re:If Windows had never existed on the home deskto by datadriven · · Score: 5, Funny
    Then Linux types would have had to shamelessly rip off the MacOS interface instead of the Windows one.


    Maybe they'd call it Gnome, or something like that.
  8. Re:I have to say... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2.3 and 2.4 were pretty darn nice. I don't really recall too many issues with bugs. At least not in comparison to MS's bugs. I recall rebooting my machine 3 times in a year. I'd often hear colleagues scream in frustration as hours of work dissappeared in the all too familiar BSOD. (Well, familiar to them... ;)

    Had IBM capitulated to MS Office's underhanded call for memory @ 2GB when starting, even though it'd never use it, we might still be running OS/2.
    That manuever made Office95 incompatible with OS/2, and along with the then incompatible default file formats, the beginning of the end was near for OS/2.

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  9. Re:Per? Were! by jaklein · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "If 'buts' and 'or' were filthy whores, we'd all be covered in chanker sores."

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