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SF Writers Sting Supposedly Traditional Publisher

deeptrace writes "A group of SF writers all submitted purposely awful stories to a publisher that purported to publish only selected high quality works. They created the worst story they could come up with, and it was accepted for publication." Their press release is pretty funny -- and if you'd like a sample of their insane prose, it's available through the book's Lulu site. (Where, Yes, you could also buy the whole thing.)

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  1. No surprise here. by SpaceCadetTrav · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do you think stories get published on Slashdot?

  2. Follow a publishers formula = get published. by infonography · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Good or bad doesn't matter. If you sync with their expectations you get published. Karma whores here have realised that. The Slashdot process is impartial to a degree and otherwise blind. The decline has encouraged Group Think and UNPOPULAR opinion is caught by the mechinism.

    Like here at slashdot there isn't a variety of styles mingling. One theory has won the darwinian battle and thus realising it they have gamed that system.

    Entropy is a law after all.

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  3. Re:old news by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This news is at least 2 or 3 days old, what's wrong with /. lately???

    The same thing that's been wrong for years: people who don't understand that something that happened a few days ago - even a few weeks ago - is still news.

    Great, you heard about it days ago, doubtless you monitor all sorts of websites and cable news channels 24/7 and know everything before the rest of us. Congratulations, you win. But those of us who occasionally turn away from the various glass teats appreciate hearing about things that may have happened more than five minutes ago.

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  4. Re:oh thats easy by altstadt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may have seemed plausible, but man was it ever fucking boring. I'm glad I didn't pay to read any of them. I only read the third one because of inertia, something that will never be repeated for the third Dune prequel.

  5. Nice spin. by rjh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sokal, through deliberate fraud...
    Such as writing a paper that he knew was bogus, in order to see whether or not Social Text would publish it?
    and playing on his legitimate reputation within physics, got the Social Text editors to publish an article that they themselves did not think was of high quality.
    The very fact he was able to do that at all is strong evidence that the Social Text editors are incompetent.

    I'm a graduate student, the lowest rung of professional academic, in a hard discipline. Before I submit a paper anywhere, I submit preprints to experts within whatever field I'm writing about. I do this because I know the journals will do the exact same thing, and it's far better on my reputation if my reviewers find them than if the journal finds them. I know that it doesn't matter if my name is Alan Matheson Turing or Paul Erdoes--whatever I or anyone else submits goes through a formal vetting process which involves having experts pore over my paper with a magnifying glass.

    The Sokal Hoax had glaring errors, errors so large that a college senior in mathematics, economics or physics could have spotted them--not only spotted them, but conclusively proven them to be false.

    Social Text didn't catch this. Does it really matter if they thought the paper was of poor quality? They published it, and by publishing it put their imprimatur on it. "Here," they said to the academic world, "read this, we think it's worth your time."

    Social Text was right. It was worth my time, in that it demonstrated to me precisely why I'm going for a Ph.D. in a discipline where rigor and peer review actually mean something.
  6. Re:Da Vinci? by KontinMonet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The da Vinci Code is utter tripe - and I don't have a religious bone in my body. Dan Brown also wrote almost exactly the same book, called it "Angels and Demons" with the same characters, the same plot, very similar errors about scientific institutions but it was set mainly in Rome.

    The pot-boiler writing is irritating enough without the wildly erroneous 'science'. Indeed, the 'science' in A&D is so laughable no one could be fooled by it. For example, the Big Bang was caused by [taa, daaa] ... wait for it ... antimatter!

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  7. Re:Da Vinci? by BenjyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's readable enough, but it is hackneyed and in general not well written. It overuses devices like cliffhanger chapter endings and foreshadowing, more like some bad soap opera than a novel.

    Think "Days of our Lives" in Friends: close-up on character's face as they make a horrifying realisation, background music swells to jarring chord, fade to black and "To be continued...". It works a few times, it just gets annoying after a while.

    I know it's pulp fiction, but there's far better pulp fiction out there: early Michael Crichton, for example.

  8. Re:Nothing new... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you understand that the behavior that you're describing from the _Social Text_ editors is the very antithesis of peer review?

    Just for the record, Social Text is not peer reviewed, nor did it ever claim to be. Quite the opposite. However, they could still have checked the science.

    The only thing that Alan Sokal's credentials got him (and should have gotten him) was his foot in the door of Social Text. The reason they published his parody was because it pandered to their ideological bias.

    The grandparent poster unfortunately has let the academic apologists of Social Text brainwash her (or him), rather than examine the evidence objectively.

    Had the _Social Text_ editors not been charlatans, they would not have even been harmed by this experiment.

    Had they not been charlatans, they would have admitted their goof and engaged in some self reflection. Instead, they circled the wagons.

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