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Court Docs Reveal Kazaa Logging User Downloads

Dan Warne writes "The most explosive documents in the ongoing Kazaa court case have emerged today, including logs of discussions between parent company Sharman and the Estonian developer of the Kazaa Media Desktop. They include extraordinary admissions like: "Reporting will make Kazaa look like spyware, as soon as it becomes evident we record downloads and playbacks, users will flee to competitive networks" and then "One can argue that we have knowledge of copyrighted material being downloaded in our network and have to install filters. If we are reporting [gold] files, then technically we could do the same for every file." Finally, "RIAA [could] collect the IP addresses for everyone who has searched for or downloaded that file." Despite the Kazaa developer's concerns over these issues, Kazaa went ahead with the logging." (More below.)

Warne continues "APC Magazine journalist Garth Montgomery, who has covered every day of the trial in the Australian Federal Court, says: "In a nutshell, this has got to rate as the most explosive document revealed. It makes it damn near impossible to maintain the separation theory that Sharman and Altnet rely on in terms of business independence and technical infrastructure. The control they exercise over the system is complete." Montgomery has also scanned in all the documents and made them available in PDF format, including the confidential Kazaa purchase contract and technical specifications for the Kazaa Media Desktop."

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  1. Woah by Jim_Callahan · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean that when I use an electronic network to transfer information, that information travels in orderly patterns that can be tracked? What happenned to the magical fairy of the internet that made all things miraculously anonymous?(/sarcasm)

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    1. Re:Woah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well I guess you should have posted AC.

  2. Probably. Got your ticket to Brazil ? by anti-NAT · · Score: 4, Funny

    Other contries to consider are Mexico and Argentina.

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    1. Re:Probably. Got your ticket to Brazil ? by cHALiTO · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can keep your criminals, thank you.

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  3. Management ignored the developers? by vought · · Score: 4, Funny
    Despite the Kazaa developer's concerns over these issues, Kazaa went ahead with the logging.


    News Flash!

    Management may at times ignore developer concerns, although developers can have insight into the customer base not obvious to management.

    It's been that way at every company I've worked at...and usually ended up in tears.

    Tears for customer support, that is.

    Film at 11.

  4. Re:Let's let Google help us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thousands of sassy teenaged American girls with crappy websites & livejournals do *NOT* make you right.

  5. Glad... by BrookHarty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Glad I only use Kazaa for porn!

    Thats my story and I'm sticking with it. (That was a bad pun...)

  6. Re:I could care less by wheany · · Score: 4, Funny

    Okay, does that mean that I really should get over it or that I should not get over it? This new English is confusing...

  7. Re:Who installed Kazza Media Desktop??? by gowen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe we need a new cliche:

    i) Download file sharing software
    ii) Share files copyrighted by RIAA/MPAA members
    iii) ???
    iv) Prison!

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  8. Re:So... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't know officer, I have no idea what is on my HDD, full of junk, a million and one kids use the PC, Brittney who? ...hey stop unplugging my machines, evidence what fucking evidence, no I'm not cussing at YOU, hey lettme go, owww that hurts man, resisting arrest..."watch you head sir"...what the Fu****POW***zzzzz.

    Just one more excuse to bash the door down.

    Disclaimer: Cops are generally good people, in fact I have relatives who are cops.

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  9. Re:Once again... by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you trade pirated media on the service, then neither you nor it are "reputable"

    What? Like Gold Dubloons and Pieces of Eight?

  10. Re:It's not an oxymoron. by webplummer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, it sounds more like a Server of Disrepute. One with a very good reputation ;-)

  11. Re:Once again... by NardofDoom · · Score: 3, Funny

    Excuse me, but I pay my own electric bill, those electrons are fully owned by me.

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  12. Re:WOW by G-Licious! · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how far back the logs go. With data like that the RIAA/MPAA could have a field day suing users.

    I wonder how often they'll sue 127.0.0.1.

  13. IPX time baby! by nadadogg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, sweet, if no one can see my IP address, that means I can't communicate with them via tcp/ip, which means a return to IPX/SPX, just like playing starcraft on a lan pre-TCP patch. Hells yeah!

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  14. Re:WOW by chrish · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hope they go after that peer bastard who's always resetting my IRC connections.

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  15. Fnord! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Is it possible that the public relations arm of MPAA/RIAA is action right here on this thread?"

    Quite, quite possible. So the XXAA has agents here to subvert the truth and warp our opinions? Certainly an intriguing possibility.

    But on the other hand, consider this - isn't planting the seeds of doubt a very efficient way of destroying trust? And claiming conspiracy where there is none is practically impossible to disprove. A very effective way of doing so, especially in an enviroment prone to believing it.

    Exactly the kind of thing an operative from a large corporation working against the geeks would say, isn't it?

    BURN HIM!