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Pro Gaming Commentators

HatTriQk writes "Maybe if your skillz are lacking you should become a Counter-Strike tourney commentator? The BBC has an article on the role of the Pro Gaming Commentator." From the article: "E-sports, sometimes called v-sports, are growing at a dramatic pace with games such as Unreal Tournament, Quake and Counter Strike letting gamers not only participate in online duals but also spectate online. The games are played at a frenetic pace, making real sports such as football and rugby look like petanque, and often it can be difficult to follow the intense action."

27 comments

  1. I can see it now... by keiferb · · Score: 2, Funny

    "To cover this event we go live to Xander the Doomslayer who's watching the carnage live from his mother's basement! Xander?"

  2. What would commentators be like? by LukaFox · · Score: 2, Funny
    Wow. There could be a whole new area for sports commentators to use home-spun expressions.

    "Wow, his supply of plasma grenades is lower than a doodle bug in Aunt Tillie's root cellar."

    GOaaaall!

  3. Pro Gaming by Scott7477 · · Score: 1

    Do you have to own a copy of the game to spectate on line? I don't have time to master some of these games but I would enjoy watching skilled players.

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    1. Re:Pro Gaming by yotto · · Score: 1

      Do you have to own a copy of the game to spectate on line?

      Live? Yes. In theory, people can record what happens in the game and then, afterward, convert that to an mpeg or somesuch. Creative googling may even turn some up.

      We're several years (at best) from this being anything other than super-niche. A small portion of people who enjoy the game (who are a small portion of the population) would watch these more than just to see what they're like.

    2. Re:Pro Gaming by bartkusa · · Score: 1
      Nope. I've watched competition matches of Tribes 2 and Tribes:Vengeance Shoutcasted to Winamp 5. Even before the advent of video casts, you could listen to audio casts of games.

      Of course, there was also T2TV, which let you watch games in the Tribes 2 engine. You could even get recorded demos of matches and watch them in the engine, while a synched mp3 of the commentator's shoutcast played on top of it.

    3. Re:Pro Gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't have to be a master to just play the game.

      It would take exactly as long to watch as it would to play, so you have no excuse.

  4. Some Subtle Nationality Bashing Anyone? by DLWormwood · · Score: 1
    Quoted from the linked article...

    The games are played at a frenetic pace, making real sports such as football and rugby look like petanque

    Egad, did I just read a UKian write that Soccer (the big UK sport) seems like a French game? It looks like the Beeb is getting into the trolling act itself...

    Then again, imagine if this was a USian article refering what we call "football." That kind of talk could start a war... (You want freedom fries with that?)

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    1. Re:Some Subtle Nationality Bashing Anyone? by lejerdemayn · · Score: 1

      since when is Rugby a french game? according to wikipedia it was a british invention.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_football

    2. Re:Some Subtle Nationality Bashing Anyone? by DLWormwood · · Score: 1
      since when is Rugby a french game?

      Not rugby, I was refering to the comparison to petanque.... I had to look up that game online to find out what the article meant, and realized it was intended to be a slur.

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    3. Re:Some Subtle Nationality Bashing Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reference to petanque is about the speed of the game, not the nationality. If you've played petanque, boules or lawn bowls you'd know they're definately slower games than soccer or rugby.

  5. Is halo2 going to be progaming material by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    I know theres a ladder system in it, but does anyone know if there will be big money tournaments for it? I'm trying to figure out which FPS I want to pick up and get good at to pro-game.

    1. Re:Is halo2 going to be progaming material by Antony.S · · Score: 1

      There was a rather unknown UK wide tournament for Halo 2 a couple of months ago, the i-series LANs tend to hold a small Halo 2 tourney.

      It is very unlikely that Halo 2 will become a big pro game, even when it hits PC (though, with the CPL the mind wonders, they did run Halo PC last summer).

      Still, Halo 2 will not compared to the likes of CS, WC3, UT2004, PK etc

  6. Petanque by nekoniku · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just in case you wanted to know what petanque was...

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  7. Thanks man by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    I went to the CPL and they will be having WC3/CS/Halo 2 tournaments this summer. Technically I should go back to WC3 where I was owning house, but I think it'd be more fun to take up a new hat.

    Besides the CPL, are there other leagues to pay attention to?

  8. hmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I imagine the commentary would be on the level of something from the fake ESPN 8 the 'Ocho' announcers in Dodgeball.

    1. Re:hmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am the individual interviewed in that article (djWHEAT), and if you think we sound like the guys from Dodgeball, you should ask why I was just hired full time by a gaming company to be their head broadcaster. I do this "commentary" for a living.

  9. The problem by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    The problem I see with pro-gaming commentators is that there's no real way for them to watch everything at once in order to be able to announce the good stuff.

    In real sports, you have centralized action that everybody can watch, and its easy to see where the action is. In FPS, you have lots of corridors, different elevated levels, ect.

    There's no possible way for a spectator to track all this let alone a commentator. Seeing as how the sole purpose of a commentator is to talk to fans about where the action's at, how will they be able to do that if even THEY don't know where the actions at since there is so much going on at once?

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    1. Re:The problem by Kwil · · Score: 1

      Of course, that depends on the game. Some of them do have a central point of action.

      What I see happening are multiple commentators, each focussing on a particular area or player, and then an overall director who decides what should be on the "main" show at any given time. Almost like watching a Royal Rumble wrestling match.

      Of course, games have the added bonus that if you really like one player or aspect, you can choose to follow one of the more specialized commentators exclusively.

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    2. Re:The problem by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 1
      if I was a professional game commentator, I'd have more than one machine, with several monitors in my face, and easily controllable camera macros at my fingertips.

      I'd want to be able to track about 4 point of views at a time. Any less and I'd be afraid I missed something. Any more and I'd just be at overload. I'd probably have my camera macros set to cycle through a few different settings. various angles on players, the different players and static cameras that are in places that I've already found to be great shots as well as the places most likely to have action in.

      sure, I'd run into a problem if there was more than a few good fights occuring in the same time, however, if I have 4 POVs, the odds of me catching the right stuff is pretty likely. especially if you consider that in most team on team FPS games there's only going to be about 2 actions each team is going to take.

      if it's a massive free for all deathmatch (well, I can't see wanting to commentate on that over and over. straight deathmatch is boring for spectators) then I'd concentrate on two or three of the favorites so I could base the commentary off of them and get the audience to get into the groove of whoever they find most appealing.

      I've seen TV shows in korea where they were entirely on warcraft 3 or (more commonly) starcraft. the commentator would have 3 monitors. one for each side and then one to float around. cycling through them and having people monitoring each of the three POVs they were able to string together some decent programming.

      I'd say it's all very possible. We've got the tech for it. We've got enough people interested in it. Hell, I'd do it if I wasn't in the Army. The only real question here, is does the audience exist for this?

      If there's an audience, people will do it, get grass-roots movements started and eventually get sponsorship to get paid for it. (and people making a living off of it would naturally spur more such shows or stations into existence) It's really just a matter of finding the people to watch it.

  10. Come on.... by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 1
    Once again - which is better - watching some overly adored punk demonstrate the twitch skilz that have kept him out of a real job (do you realize that youre promoting this lifestyle?!?!?) or playing the game yourself?

    No good at CS? Halo 2? Get some friends together, and play. Thats what these things are designed for - to PLAY. Not to watch.

    Spectators belong on the BotServe

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    1. Re:Come on.... by Dues · · Score: 1

      the same thing could be said about sports...

  11. Subspace Powerball... by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

    I always felt the commentary made that game much more enjoyable. However, since Powerball typically only had to focus on 1 ball, I imagine it was easier for someone to provide play-by-play commentary on that, versus a FPS deathmatch frag-fest. Even the automated frag/suicide messages in FPS games are hard to follow, and I can't think of what else someone would need to know besides who killed who?!?

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  12. I'll be the best by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    Like that japanese translated show MXC on spikeTV, I'll dub all the characters voice. It'll be the best commentary when I make every match "telephone workers vs. circle jerkers".

  13. And to think... by Luveno · · Score: 1

    ... I was just musing how there couldn't be a bigger bunch of dorks than professional gamers - and then this come along.

  14. A Rant by Mitaphane · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Can we stop using terms like "cyber-athelete" and "e-sports" when applied to competitive gaming. I know in a lot of people's heads "sports" and "games" are mixed together but they are two seperate things. A sport is an athletic game. Not only does it require skill of the game but it also requires all the other demands of being in good physical shape. I don't mean to belittle the skill that some proffesional gamers have, but the comparing a game Counterstrike to a game of Football or Hockey is ludicrous.

    That said, treating a video game like a sport and commentating on it like its a sport seems pointless. I remember watching Arena on the ol' crappy G4TV channel. Almost all the shows I saw were FPSs where the commentators seemed to do is point out what the viewer could obviously see. It's painful It's like watching commentators for a pool game saying:

    "He moves his stick back, OOHHH! NICE SHOT! He made it into the pocket! He better be careful though this next shot is tough. If he misses it, his opponent might have a chance to win."

    It's wasted potential. What commentators should be doing is discussing strategy, terminology, and other reasons why the players are doing what they do. You know, things that give people insight about the game not the action.

  15. WTF is it with commentators ? by billcopc · · Score: 1

    Warning: I am not a sports freak.

    What is the point of these annoying commentators anyway ? Do I really need someone to tell me what I'm seeing ? Do I really care that some poor russian hockey player can't drive his Ferrari because his dumb highness got arrested for DUI, but he can drive a puck like nobody's business!

    Just imagine this redundancy in the gaming scene: we already have all the info we need onscreen. Do I really want some greasy kid repeating "XSlayer fragged BillcoPC, respawning in 10 seconds" over and over again ? Does he really look forward to having his face shuffled after reminding me for the 30th time how much I suck when pitted against aimbotting basement dwellers ? No thanks. Go to school. Get a job.

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  16. Intel Extreme Edition documentaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and often it can be difficult to follow the intense action

    I listened to the commentary on the latest "Intel Extreme Edition challenge" documentary, and it was more difficult to follow what the commentators were saying than it was to just watch the action. So I don't know if they help in that regard.