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House Approves Electronic ID Cards

chrisaj5 writes "ZDNet News reports that the Real ID Act of 2005 has been passed by the House, by a 251-161 margin. It stipulates that driver's licenses must include a digital photograph, anticounterfeiting features and undefined machine-readable technology." From the article: "Another portion of the bill says that states would be required to link their DMV databases if they wished to receive federal funds. Among the information that must be shared: All data fields printed on drivers' licenses and identification cards, and complete drivers' histories, including motor vehicle violations, suspensions and points on licenses."

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  1. Welcome to 1984 by ip_freely_2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, the United States always seemed to be the place where government stayed out of people's lives. Now, it seems a few want to make Orwell seem like a conservative vision.

    I think it'll come to a point, that if you don't want government in your life, you'll need to live in a country where the government has little technology.

    Freedom has been lost while no one was paying attention.

  2. insurance companies? by GLowder · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Oh well, so much for the insurance company not finding out about that ticket in that little town in Texas.

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  3. Re:Yet another repugnant violation of states' righ by opposume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was just writing a response just like this. Last I knew it was a states rights issue. Not to mention the fact that it's a mandate that's going to cost MANY under funded and less affluent states a LOT of money to impliment. And if they don't? They lose MORE money. Good. Great. Grand. What's the next step? Corporate sponsorship of a state just so they can stay afloat? "The Nextel province of Mississippi" And let's not even think about putting our tin foil hats on with the possibilities of a nation wide ID system...

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  4. Correct me if I'm wrong by Deanasc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wasn't the purpose of the drivers license to prove you passed an operators test? Now you don't exist as a human in this country if you didn't pass your drivers test.

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  5. am I missing something here? by tuxette · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Republican politicians argued that the new rules were necessary to thwart terrorists, saying that four of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers possessed valid state-issued driver's licenses.

    Um...yeah?

    "When I get on an airplane and someone shows ID, I'd like to be sure they are who they say they are," said Rep. Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican, during a floor debate that started Wednesday.

    But they had valid ID. They were who they said they were. Or did I miss the article the day it was revealed that Atta guy (or whoever) was really called Joe Smith?

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  6. Re:Yet another repugnant violation of states' righ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nobody has to accept highway funds from the federal government

    The federal government is collecting those funds from me and has been entrusted with providing highways with them. When they start to rely on extortion to get what they want under the threat of not using the money they collected from me for its intended purpose, they should no longer be entrusted to collect it for that purpose.

  7. Re:Yet another repugnant violation of states' righ by Speare · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think you guys are too paranoid when it comes to privacy issues.

    Thus sayeth the Anonymous Coward.

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  8. Re:Yet another repugnant violation of states' righ by SomePoorSchmuck · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Its funny that as geeks we ridicule security through obscurity while supporting the rights of individuals to hide their poor driving records because of fears about 'Big Brother'.

    It's funny that you as a "geek" can't see the difference between the rights and protections due you as a human being, and application development.
    That is, if "funny" is a word which here means "not at all surprising".
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  9. Re:Yet another repugnant violation of states' righ by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Are you really pissing and moaning because law enforcement wants to be able to get a certain level of appropriate information from all driver's licenses?...The only people I can see having a true complaint are the drivers who want to hide their tickets in one state from LEOs in another state.

    There is a term for a government in which legistlation is passed for the mere convenience of law enforcement officers.

    The term is "police state".

    Sure, what we have is a lite version, a mostly-benign police state (at least if you're a white middle-class non-Muslim person with mainstream political views). But as others have observed for the past few decades, anytime, anywhere, no matter what you're doing, there is some law under which you can be arrested and booked.

    When a cop pulls me over, it is completely irrelevant to the matter at hand how many points are on my licence or what previous violations exist. In fact it would be a violation of equal protection if I were to be treated differently based on this information.

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