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MPAA Developing Digital Fingerprinting Technology

Danathar writes "The MPAA is looking to use digital fingerprinting technologies that in conjunction with legislation will enable and force ISPs to look for network traffic that matches the signatures. " From the article: " Once completed, Philips' technology--along with related tools from other companies--could be a powerful weapon in Hollywood's increasingly aggressive attempts to choke off the flood of films being traded online."

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  1. Encryption by Odo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And ISPs are going to search for fingerprints in encrypted downloads how exactly?

    It would be relatively easy for the next generation of P2P applications to add very basic encryption. Possibly based on a captcha (just a regular zip file encrypted against the random letters contained in a gif).

    Or will the MPAA's next trick be to purchase legislation banning encryption.

    1. Re:Encryption by mickwd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe the MPAA's next trick is to publicise some scheme they're thinking of using, letting it get published to Slashdot, reading what Slashdotters have to say, and using this to help decide on its viability, before investing any serious amount of money in it.

      Free technical review.

      Doesn't anybody else here think that occasionally someone from the "usual suspects" (Microsoft, RIAA, MPAA, etc) might read what some of their "opponents" are saying about them ? Especially when people here openly post how they will get round what the organisations concerned are trying to achieve (rightly or wrongly).

  2. Forget it by Karamchand · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trying to make bits uncopyable is like trying to make water not wet. -- Bruce Schneier

  3. Made by Philips? by mr.henry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is sort of amusing that this technology is being developed by Philips, makers of the Philips DVP-642, probably the most pirate friendly DVD player on the market today.

  4. 5 years from now.. by evilmousse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..govt. and coportate interests will lament the day they drove the average user to encryption.

  5. SneakerNet the Ultimate by LionKimbro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We have 1TB disks coming up soon.

    I don't know how many terrabytes of released music exist in the world, but I imagine it's a finite number.

    We'll probably have 100TB disks, and then 10,000 TB cubes at some point in the future.

    Perhaps all the worlds music will fit in the space of a cubic centimeter.

    You visit your friend's house, put your cube-disk next to his cube-disk, hit "copy", and then walk home with your copy of the entire world's music.

    Really, there's not a whole friggin' lot you can do about that.

    Perhaps the possesion of world-music cube-disks will be the next marijuana possesion.

  6. Two ridiculous science fiction stories in one day? by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First I read this story today, and I swear I still want my 5 minutes back from wasting my time reading it. Then comes along this story about the MPAA developing "fingerprinting" technology. I suppose that when someone rips a DVD using DVDShrink or DVDDecryptor or any number of other programs that said program is going to copy said fingerprint wholly intact into the resulting file even if it compresses said file. Then, after I convert it to DivX format, I'm sure the fingerprint is still going to be intact. Then after I transfer it with (Insert any of BitTorrent, WinMX, IRC, FTP, etc, etc, etc, etc) the fingerprint is going to be sent intact without using a fragmented TCP packet. Assuming all this to be true, my ISP is supposed to then pick out this needle-sized fingerprint in a galactic-sized haystick.

    This is pure science fiction.

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  7. Re:It's funny... by SunFan · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Perhaps this will lead to a division in society between the people who know the MPAA can't take our money and those who don't. These companies exist only because of us, the customers. I have no problem at all telling them to %$#@ off, because I know entertainment is cheap and very easy to come by. Take my kid to a movie vs. take my kid to a park vs. take my kid to a ball game, whatever. Movies really are not that big of a deal. Sure I might miss great movies like Dr. Strangelove, but, ultimately, movies are just a medium for these stories and certainly not a requirement. Indy productions, stage adaptations, etc. are all different ways for the talented people out there to tell their stories. Big company execs can kiss my ass for all I care.

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  8. Wow! by rbarreira · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The trick is to make that identification process work even if the file is compressed, turned into a different computer file format or otherwise changed slightly. For a song, this means basing the fingerprint on the music's acoustical properties, rather than on the ones and zeros that make up a given digital file.

    The video process is similar, but would use visual characteristics of individual video frames instead of audio qualities.

    A good fingerprinting technique must be able to identify the movie even if parts of it are being downloaded out of order, or if some bits have been cut out, Maandonks said.


    Wow, is this a kind of an april's fool or something? I don't even think I need to comment much on the infeasibility of this...

    Next thing you know, the RIAA will be solving NP-complete problems in constant time or something...
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  9. Re:Better than upstream measures by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly, I don't want to have to deal with any kind of "dispute process" or take the risk that a failure of that process might land me in court. File-sharing of music and movies isn't my problem: it's not some significant social issue that we all need to be concerned about. Racism ... sure. Health care ... certainly. Undue corporate influence in Congress ... absolutely. But ... Music? Movies? Why are we even considering subverting our national communications system to serve the needs of a few large corporations? Most of whom, I might add, are foreign interests.

    This is really starting to get out of hand. I mean, the entertainment industry is not some great cultural treasure that must be preserved at all costs (the people that run it think so, but they are mistaken.) This is an economic matter, no more and no less. I didn't shed a tear when Westinghouse went belly up, I didn't lose any sleep when K-Mart filed for bankruptcy ... some organisms survive change, and other's don't. Let the RIAA and the MPAA and all their member corporations deal with the pace of progress like every other adaptable company that survived the advent of the Internet. Gee ... the public Internet makes "rampant piracy" possible? You're losing billions? THAT'S JUST TOO GOD DAMN BAD. The world changed around you, and in any event does not exist solely for your enrichment. Deal with it.

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  10. Re:I Love Slashdot, Really I Do ... by SpacePunk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "This topic is absolutely chock-a-block with discussions about which burglars' tools work best to fuck over and steal from our neighbors. What next, discussions on how to cut through school zones and take kindergarten-age hostages to elude the police during a high-speed chase? "

    I look at it like this. A discussion on how to preserve the privacy and liberty of those of us that do not commit copyright violations. Allowing this is like allowing the cops to tap my phone becuase my neighbor was caught committing a crime. It's unacceptable.

  11. Re:The scariest way ... by Joff_NZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the banks of the world might have something to say about that, and last time I checked, they are way bigger, and wield *much* bigger sticks than the MPAA/RIAA

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