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IE7 Announced for Longhorn and WinXP

sriram_2001 writes "There is now an official announcement from Bill Gates on Internet Explorer 7. It will be available in beta form this summer for Longhorn and XP SP2. The IEBlog has commentary about the decision making process that went into the new browser version." Coming on the heels of the June Beta announcement for Longhorn, if things go as planned it will likely be here in early summer. The new browser's early arrival was first discussed last year.

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  1. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Opera had tabs before Firefox did. Also mouse gestures.

  2. Re:Maybe they'll do it right this time... by Verteiron · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget alpha-channel transparency in PNG files.

    (without the nasty DirectX hack)

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  3. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tabs go back to the 1980s...spreadsheets had them first. Putting them in a web browser isn't an innovation, it's an evolution.

  4. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by Xemoka · · Score: 3, Informative

    Opera has had tabs for a very, very long time, Netcaptor or MyIE2 only got the idea from Opera and tried to impliment it using the Internet Explorer engine. Get your facts strait my friend, Opera has been around ALOT longer then most other Browsers and has been using a Multi Document Interface since version 1.0 (although i'm not exactly sure when tabs came into play, however i Highly doubt it was afer those two IE nock offs)

  5. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by sepluv · · Score: 4, Informative

    FTR, Galeon had tabs long before Opera.

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  6. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by pbranes · · Score: 4, Informative
    Microsoft press release gives a lot of good information. After changing their earlier position that IE 7 would only be released with Longhorn, Microsoft intends to release an IE7 beta this summer. Right now, it is only for Windows XP SP2 customers.

    The Microsoft Antispyware program will stay free for personal users, but for sysadmins who need a managed solution, Microsoft will charge for that package.

    Also, a unified Microsoft OS & application update service focused on consumers and small businesses, called Microsoft Update, will be released this March. The enterprise Microsoft update product, Windows Update Services (WUS) - the follow up to SUS, will be released sometime in the first half of this year.

  7. Re:Probably not... by boy_asunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not unless/until MS becomes an arm of the government. The First Amendment only applies to governmental action.

  8. Re:Probably not... by bmwm3nut · · Score: 4, Informative

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    freedom of speech applies only to the government. microsoft, or anyone, is allowed to block whatever they want. just like your employer can make you sign a NDA (which limits your right to speak about what you know).

  9. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they already do have tabbed browsing done.

    At least in the stripped-down IE they ship with the SDK -- the tabs there are working nicely. Not as good as on FireFox with TBE, but better than on bare-bones FireFox.

    Of course, everything else is still the old crap.

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  10. Re:IE.Net? by irokitt · · Score: 4, Informative
    Is Visual Studio now written in .Net? If it is, no wonder it's so much slower than VS6.

    I have VS6 and VS .NET on the same system, and performance is roughly pretty close. VS .NET seems a tad slower, but I think this is probably a result of "creeping featurism" (i.e. bloat, and every programmer is guilty of that) than any compilation or programming differences. The pretty, graphics-hungry interface of VS .NET may make more of an impact. But I find that it starts faster than, say, Firefox;)

    All things considered, both are good. I use VS 6.0 more because old habits die hard (same reason I still use Borland C++Builder for certain kinds of projects - I'm used to the debug/stepping interface in certain circumstances).
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  11. Proof that Opera had it before Galeon by ex-geek · · Score: 5, Informative
    According to Wikipedia, Opera added tabbed browsing in Version 4 in March 2000.

    The changelog of galeon reads:
    2000-12-29 Matt Aubury <matt@ookypooky.com>

    * src/browser.c
    * src/browser_callbacks.c
    * src/galeon.h
    * src/portal.c
    * src/prefs.c
    * ui/galeon.glade: VERY early code for tabbed browsing. It doesn't
    work right at all yet, but it's a start
    NetCaptor was the first browser according to the Wikipedia article.
  12. Re:I wonder what MS has stolen from firefox by lakeland · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks like bars got it from tablets... Galeon probably got it from the folders version (short strap, etc...)

    Dear Word Detective: Can you tell me the etymology of "tabs" when used to mean to watch something or someone, as in "to keep tabs on ...." I'd also like to know why it is used in plural as above and also in singular "to keep a tab on ...." I had imagined that it must have some relationship to the usage of "tab" which refers to the protrusion from a file folder or index card. However, a dictionary I consulted said that the etymology was unknown. -- G.H. Gena.

    Oh, please. Dictionary editors always pull that "origin unknown" stuff when it's Friday afternoon and they're in a hurry to tie one on. Most people accept Samuel Johnson's definition of lexicographers as "harmless drudges," but the truth is that the average dictionary office would give Animal House a run for its money. I'll bet the Editor-in-Chief took a big swig of Old Webster's as he tossed the entry for "Tabs" into his out box, shouting "Origin unknown!" as the room collapsed in drunken laughter.
    Just kidding (although many lexicographers probably wish I weren't). The origin of "tab" in the "file folder" sense is indeed unknown, but the root of "tabs" in the "I'm watching you" sense is more certain.

    The sort of "tab" found at the top of file folders is an extension of the root sense of "tab," which is, as those party animals over at the Oxford English Dictionary put it, "A short broad strap, flat loop, or the like, attached by one end to an object, or forming a short projecting part by which a thing can be taken hold of, hung up, fastened, or pulled." This "tab" appeared at the start of the 17th century and may simply be a modification of "tag."
    To keep "tabs" (or "a tab") on someone, however, is short for "tablet" in the sense of "writing tablet," i.e., an account book or written record. Thus, when Santa Claus is described as "making a list and checking it twice," he is "keeping a tab" (or "tabs") on all those naughty and nice kiddies, much as John Ashcroft does with computers. This use of "tab" is relatively recent, first appearing in the late 19th century. The same sense of "tab" meaning "written account" is found in "tab" meaning "restaurant check."

  13. Re:Beta Release? by diamondsw · · Score: 4, Informative

    No other OS today will run a program designed for an Operating System 10 years old while still having the features one would expect from a modern operating system.

    Mac OS X still runs almost all programs written for System 7 and up via Classic (not too dissimilar to Microsoft's approach), and even many programs from the original 128K (if you can find them - Illustrator 0.8 runs, for example, as do many old black and white games). Meanwhile, we've undergone a complete shift in processor architecture and OS architecture, but all of our ancient 68K software keeps on working.

    THAT is an amazing feat, far moreso than the pure evolution of x86 and Win16/Win32.

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