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Intel Announces Laser Breakthrough

AdmiralWeirdbeard writes "Intel has just announced a breakthrough in laser technology allowing a continuous laser wave on a silicon chip. Apparently they devised a method to sap the interfering field of electrons previously generated in silicon by the lasers. Intel says that hardware exploiting the advance might begin appearing at the end of the decade."

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  1. The soy of electronics by LukaFox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Silicon: is there anything it can't do? Seriously, it'll be interesting to see how this impacts optical storage, not to mention all the other places lasers are used.

  2. Raman by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew early on in college Raman would be the ultimate solution to many problems. I wasn't thinking about lasers at the time but I'm not surprised. Those scrumptious noodles. So cheap, so easy to prepare.

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    1. Re:Raman by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny
      It nearly destroyed my kidneys.
      I'll bet you were pissed.
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  3. Here's to hoping by Admiral+Ackbar+8 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That this will lead to optical computing, but after reading the BBC article its clear that they have it in mind to use this for optical switches in the telecomunications industry. If someone smart could come up with a silicon based optical NAND gate, we would all be happy campers.

  4. Re:Correct Units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The (first) article states the waveguide is 1.5x1.55micrometers and 48millimeters in length, Has it got the units right on that one?

    No, those units look right. If you really read the first article, then you would have seen the picture of the die.

  5. Am I the only one that doesn't get it? by PartyBoy!911 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ok it sounds cool... but what is the intended purpose of this breakthrough?

    1. Re:Am I the only one that doesn't get it? by thpr · · Score: 4, Interesting
      There are probably two major uses. The first is in an optical switch. Traditionally, switches were OEO (optical-electrical-optical) until the all-optical craze hit in 2000. OOO (all optical) are (in theory) able to switch the light faster, which reduces latency, power usage, and lots of other things in the optical core of the network. However, if you eliminate the separate optics devices and can run the optics directly onto the semiconductor, OEO may be a lot more competitive (meaning cheaper). Go search LightReading for "OEO" or "OOO" to follow that debate (of whether there is benefit to all-optical and the current state of the art. [Infinera is a rather interesting startup driving OEO into the future to compete with OOO]

      The second major use would be chip-to-chip interconnect. However, this becomes a challenge, as you try to keep a ribbon of fiber-optics (think 200-2000 strands) perfectly lined up with the lasers on the die. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is one of the hurdles to face before it could be used that way in mass-produced systems like a PC. The theory goes that at about 1 foot per second, electrical propagation between chips is causing us lots of headaches. HyperTransport and other technologies make some advances to get around the plain limits, but there are still major problems with sending high-speed signals on circuit boards. Even if this can't help speed up absolute memory access time, it could help to improve throughput between memory and the processor, helping to avoid some of the single-threaded bottlenecks that led IBM and its partners to develop Cell

  6. Expensive? by BeerCat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA: The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company has created a chip containing eight continuous Raman lasers by using fairly standard silicon processes rather than the somewhat expensive materials and processes required for making lasers today.

    OK, so I'm probably missing some major point here, but, define "expensive" for making lasers, given that there is a laser in every cheap £20 CD player, cheap £30 DVD player, cheap £5 laser pointer... Can't be that expensive, surely?

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    1. Re:Expensive? by thpr · · Score: 5, Informative
      define "expensive" for making lasers

      Keep in mind that the lasers you are working with are not very precise (the CD player, DVD player), or even only have to be coherent (the laser pointer) and not pulsing. Even with the encoding, the DVD is only transmitting a few Mb/s of information as it encounters pits and lands on a CD/DVD. (4.7GB/2 hours = ~6Mb/s)

      The long-haul optical systems and optical switches are transmitting over multi-kilometer fiber optic cable that is transmitting at Gb/s rates. That requires a MUCH better laser, in terms of power, coherency and switching speed. I actually don't know what the lasers cost, but some of the receivers can be in the hundreds for a single receiver at the very high end. The optical systems themselves are rather expensive, being thousands of dollars for a single mid-range board that has a pair of optical receiver/transmitters (2 ports).

    2. Re:Expensive? by oliverthered · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't think, know.
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    3. Re:Expensive? by mehitabel · · Score: 2, Informative

      in the laser lab where I work:

      solid state diode laser, 5W at 532nm: $40,000
      YLF laser, 20W at 532nm: $40,000
      Titanium doped sapphire crystal: $1000
      optics to make 400mW ultrafast laser: $10,000+

      cost of buying comparable kit from KML: priceless!
      no, actually $100-300k

      not that these lasers are exactly general use.
      I'm just pointing out that lasers and materials can be very expensive.

  7. Re:Correct Units? by k98sven · · Score: 5, Informative

    The (first) article states the waveguide is 1.5x1.55micrometers and 48millimeters in length, Has it got the units right on that one?

    Yes. The Nature article the guys published (20 Jan, vol 433, p292) on this says "4.8 cm".

    IANAEE, so maybe its correct, but their going to refine it, or maybe its not linear.

    Yes, of course they're going to develop this further. This is the first time they've achived continous-wave laser gain in silicon, obviously the next step is to increase it.
    (A smaller cavity requires larger gain)

    No it's not linear, the cavity is S-shaped.

  8. End of the Decade? by Bingo+Foo · · Score: 5, Funny
    Intel says that hardware exploiting the advance might begin appearing at the end of the decade.

    Which one?

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  9. What in the... by d474 · · Score: 5, Funny
    From TFA:
    1. Rong's chip produces laser light when it is 'pumped' with another laser.

    I'm sorry, but that is just Rong...
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    1. Re:What in the... by d474 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Wait a minute, wait a minute...
      1. Rong's chip produces laser light when it is 'pumped' with another laser.
      So, two lights make a Rong?
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    2. Re:What in the... by Some_Llama · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Wait a minute, wait a minute...

      Rong's chip produces laser light when it is 'pumped' with another laser.

      So, two lights make a Rong?"

      No it means it will Lase you rong time...

  10. Catch 22 by karvind · · Score: 2, Interesting
    From the nature article: Rong's chip produces laser light when it is 'pumped' with another laser.

    This is old stuff (see bottom note on the article, result was published in Oct 2004). Intel showed they can lase silicon with another laser. So how am I going to find another laser to pump this one ?

    Silicon is indirect bandgap semiconductor. There is no easy way to make lasers out of it unless you introduce some traps to facilitate optical transistions. Can anyone explain how does it work ? -a

    1. Re:Catch 22 by Anztac · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, they mention in the news.com article that silicon is a poor producer of light, what it is good at though is amplifying it via the Ramen effect.

      A Raman laser, in some ways, is ideally suited for silicon. The Raman Effect, discovered in 1928 by Nobel laureate Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman, roughly works as follows: Light hits a substance, causing the atoms in the substance to vibrate. The collision causes some of the photons to gain or lose energy, resulting in a secondary light of a different wavelength. A Raman laser essentially involves taking this secondary light and then amplifying it (by reflecting it and pumping energy into the system) to emit a functional beam. Because of its crystalline structure, silicon atoms readily vibrate when hit with light. The Raman Effect, in fact, is 10,000 times stronger in silicon than standard glass, which should make it far easier to amplify.

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    2. Re:Catch 22 by wildsurf · · Score: 3, Funny

      what it is good at though is amplifying it via the Ramen effect.

      This was presumably discovered after much noodling.

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  11. Do you smell that? by eomnimedia · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...continuous laser wave..."

    Aw, nuts. And I just bought my new Continuous Bacon Wave . <sigh>There's always an upgrade.</sigh>

    1. Re:Do you smell that? by wildsurf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aw, nuts. And I just bought my new Continuous Bacon Wave.

      That sounds like it would be useful for Ham Radio.

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  12. Power supply... by jim_v2000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article didn't mention this, or I didn't see it, but wouldn't using lasers instead of wires really use a lot of power? Epecially when you start using a lot of them. But then again, maybe these are really low powered lasers and don't take much power at all. Anyone have any ideas or know anything about wires vs lasers?

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    1. Re:Power supply... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe they do right now, but with today's nanotrends, expect nanoscopic lasers being used to transfer information in a chip.

      I give it about 20 years. Maybe in 25 we'll start seeing fully-functional optical microprocessors. But by that time there will be already cold microprocessors using nanotube-based transistors, and running with perhaps an AA battery or something.

    2. Re:Power supply... by laughingcoyote · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I imagine the initial ENIAC-style transistor computers were power monsters too. So yes, they likely do, but technology only gets better with time. And in fact, depending how it's implemented, it may actually take a little LESS power once it reaches a production-quality level.

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  13. No... by maynard · · Score: 5, Funny
    "[..]the potential implications for breast implants!"

    ...that's Silicone, not Silicon. BIG difference. Not the lease of which is feel. Imagine your wife with a hard and lumpy P4 in there, instead of a Silicone Gel breast implant, and you'll get the idea. Oh wait, yeah... some weirdos around here would dig that. Nevermind! *ahem!*--M

    1. Re:No... by ikkonoishi · · Score: 4, Funny

      My imaginary wife uses AMD you insensitive clod.

    2. Re:No... by maynard · · Score: 2, Funny

      P4 breast implants? Women get warm enough during sex as it is without bloody intel radiators in there as well.

      They do?!?!? *Sigh*, I've wondered about that. It seems mine's defective... --M

    3. Re:No... by Mr_Icon · · Score: 3, Funny

      My imaginary wife uses AMD you insensitive clod.

      Well, at least she didn't StrongARM you into marrying her.

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  14. Artistic turn... by RM6f9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Open up gaps between the secondary light source and receptors such that they criss-cross the inside of your desktop's case... web of light, home-brewed koyanisqatsi (sp?) sequel - I wouldn't mind having a larger box if it would work the way I'm seeing/imagining it...
    Whaddaya know? Per the article, lasers really *are* cool! (cooler than wires anyway).

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  15. Optoelectronics by zymano · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hybrid optical-electronic chips are ussed mainly in highspeed net hardware. $$$ is the reason you haven't seen them in your desktop. I am fascinated by it more than quantum because it seems far off.

    optoelectronics defined by Intel article.

    More info. Just google Optoelectronics.

  16. Sweet! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 3, Funny
    This and Plastics clear the way for the Superconductor advance! I'll have those pesky French beaten in no time!

    Now I just need to steal Conscription from the Aztecs...

  17. Re:Purpose? by ScruffyScrode · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Fiber optics:

    IIRC fiber optics networks still have to use electronic switches, hubs, routers, etc, that means that the data has to be converted from photonic to electronic and back at every switch/router/anything that actually processes it. This causes a huge slow down in comparison to what a pure light switch/router/etc. could perform.

  18. But it's not a laser by Biff+Stu · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's based on Raman shifting. It's a nice way of getting longer wavelength light from shorter wavelength light, but you still need a pricey(non-silicon) laser to make it work. Furthermore, because the Raman process has limited efficiency, you end up loosing much of the efficiency of a conventional (non-silicon) diode laser.

    It's only interesting because it can be electronically swiched on and off, so it represents a nice way of getting modulated light into a silicon waveguide. On the other hand, there are modulators with much better efficiency. So it's a cheap but inefficient modulator, which is also a wavelength converter.

    1. Re:But it's not a laser by Biff+Stu · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try learning physics.

      Laser: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.

      The stimulated Raman effect is fundamentally different from stimulated emission. You can't get stimulated emission from Si because it is an indirect bandgap semiconductor. However, it is true that both processes can generate coherent beams of light, and people typically refer to devices that generate coherent light as laser sources, hence the term "Raman Laser".

      However, my point is that this device can't convert non-optical energy into optical energy. Furthermore, since it's a non-linear optical process, you can only get the necessary intinsity to drive this process from a coherent source. Therefore you must have an actual laser to start this process. This is something that they state in the articles. However, in the c/net article, the marketing hype starts to take over. They state, "The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company has created a chip containing eight continuous Raman lasers by using fairly standard silicon processes rather than the somewhat expensive materials and processes required for making lasers today." Implying that this gets us away needing old-fashoned expensive lasers. It doesn't.

      Yes, they are nice, small coherent light sources that can be easily modulated and integrated into Si, but they aren't lasers, and the efficiency is a problem.

      Let's say you want to start making integrated optical circuits. If you want a chip with 100 switches, you must pump each switch with 300 mW. (Well maybe you could cut back to 100 mW, but the efficiency of these things is non-linear, and there will be a threshold power at which they don't work.) Therefore, a device with just 100 switches would require 10 to 30 watts of coherent optical power to drive it. Then you need to worry about the wall-plug efficiency of your pump laser (or lasers) and the bulk of the pump laser.

      It's interesting, and it did deserve an article in Nature. However, there's a lot of corporate marketing hype behind all the buzz in the linked articles, and when marketing hype and science mix I get annoyed.

    2. Re:But it's not a laser by Hal-9001 · · Score: 2, Informative
      However, my point is that this device can't convert non-optical energy into optical energy. Furthermore, since it's a non-linear optical process, you can only get the necessary intinsity to drive this process from a coherent source. Therefore you must have an actual laser to start this process.
      So I guess all those argon-pumped Ti:sapphire oscillators and diode-pumped Nd:YAG oscillators aren't real lasers either. The radiative mechanism for this device is different than for a direct-bandgap semiconductor material, but the terminal behavior isn't much different than most modern optically-pumped solid-state lasers. You illuminate the gain medium with pump light at some wavelength, and you get coherent light at some longer wavelength out. I suppose you could define the term "laser" to exclude such devices if you wanted (there is some precedent, as optical parametric oscillators are traditionally distinguished from lasers), but be careful not to make the definition so narrow as to exclude devices based on stimulated emission!
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  19. i read all three articles and... by distantbody · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what the big deal is about is basically that intels raman laser represents another step towards having cheap electron to photon interconnects (and cheap fiber optic amps, although funnily the said the efficiency was only around 5%, but i can still see its significance). i drool at the thought of having my CPU connected to my RAM via an optical bus!(and cheaply too i must add, as this is currently possible, but would be very costly)...or maybe even optical SATA, sweeet!

  20. Re:Purpose? by mapmaker · · Score: 2, Funny
    Does it have a purpose?

    Yes, the purpose is to distract you from how poorly Intel's processor business has been doing lately.

  21. Re:Correct Units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The CHIP is 16mmx16mm, the waveguide built into the chip is "folded" to fit 1.5x1.55x48000 micrometers.

    Bet it you look at a road map of any city, you will find that the sum of the length of all the lines on the page is greater then the any of lengths of the edges of the map, too.

    But I have a more fundamental question, one which I have not been able to determine in spite of having read the cited articles (Yes, we A.C.s CAN read the fine articles on occasion):

    WHAT IS THE WAVELENGTH OF THE OUTPUT???????????

    IANASLS (I am not a silicon laser scientist), but if I was would I be able to calculate the wavelength from all the values tossed about in the articles? Continuous red lasers are no big deal, a continuous violet laser would be reasonably impressive (at least to me, but I like purple), a continous deep UV or better laser on a chip this size would make for lousy light shows at the planetarium but could bring the cost down on communications central offices by several orders of magnitude, even more so if the output can be tuned. Or something like that.

    It took reading the Intel glossary to the Intel press release to find the following:

    Wavelength conversion - The process of taking light of one wavelength (color) and changing it to another wavelength (color). In communications, more data can be transmitted by sending multiple wavelengths of light down the same optical fiber. Wavelength conversion allows the switching of data from one wavelength to another. The Raman effect in silicon can produce such a wavelength conversion.

    Which still doesn't tell me the wavelength of the laser (or the range of wavelengths), but only that the effect Intel is exploiting COULD probably produce multiple wavelengths across some undefined range.

    P.S. To all the news sites that took Intel's press release and just moved sentences around to make it look like some thought or maybe even research went into the writing instead of merely repeating the Intel press release, most universities (at least my alma mater) consider that a crime more heinous then 2nd degree murder. If you wanted to be a writer, WRITE!

  22. Exploitation by bytesmythe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Intel says that hardware exploiting the advance might begin appearing at the end of the decade.

    And software exploiting said hardware will appear about 15 minutes later...

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  23. Re:This story is a dupe by AdmiralWeirdbeard · · Score: 2

    The advance in technology being announced here is Intel's solution to the Two Photon Absorption problem. This allowed the team of scientists referenced in the story you cite to take the pulsing silicon laser they announced then, and make it a continuous wave laser, which is being announced now.

    But I should have linked the previous story as well... my bad.

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  24. used with GaAs lasers? by bodrell · · Score: 2, Informative
    Furthermore, since it's a non-linear optical process, you can only get the necessary intinsity to drive this process from a coherent source. Therefore you must have an actual laser to start this process. This is something that they state in the articles.
    What do you mean by "actual laser?" Are semiconductor lasers not coherent sources? Or are they not bright enough? It did say you need another laser . . . I think maybe I'm not fully understanding what they're talking about:

    Using the Raman effect, the chip firm has produced an optically pumped laser, with outputs up to 9mW.

    "We have proved that silicon can be considered as a gain material," said Mario Paniccia, director of Intel's photonics technology lab.

    . . .

    At 300mW pump input, the laser outputs around 6mW. The slope efficiency, with a 25V bias on the PIN diode, is 4.3 per cent. Half power linewidth is claimed to be better than 80MHz.

    So what exactly does it mean that silicon is a "gain" material if the laser output is one 30th the energy of the pump input?

    Also, they mentioned something about optical modulation in the article; do you know if this proof-of-concept chip can actually modulate the light? I wonder if just reversing the bias would do it . . .

    Oh well. I guess I'll have to read the Nature article when I get to work. We have pretty nifty online access to a lot of scientific journals.

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  25. Re:Correct Units? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 2, Informative
    The reason laser light is coherent is because it travels an enormous distance before being emitted. This gives the individuals waves time to become coherent.

    The laser is coherent because the emitted photons are in phase.
  26. Re:Correct Units? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 2, Informative
    The reason laser light is coherent is because it travels an enormous distance before being emitted. This gives the individuals waves time to become coherent.
    This explanation for why laser light is coherent is WRONG. The coherence properties of laser light are due to the properties of the stimulated emission process, and therefore localized in time and space to the emission event.

    The best explanation I've seen for the coherence of stimulated emission is "Rereading Einstein on Radiation" by Daniel Kleppner in this month's issue of Physics Today. The explanation is that light-matter interaction can be modeled as a driving force applied to an oscillator (like a pendulum or spring). In the presence of a driving force, an oscillator absorbs or emits energy depending on its current phase with respect to the phase of the driving force. A simple example is pushing someone on a swing (which is a pendulum, and therefore an oscillator). If you push them at the right times, they swing higher and higher--the oscillator absorbs energy. If you pull on the swing at those times, they swing less and less--the oscillator loses energy.

    In light-matter interaction, the electromagnetic attraction between an electron and an atomic nucleus can be modeled as a spring, and the driving force is an incident electromagnetic wave, i.e. incident light. In a stimulated emission process, an atom (oscillator) loses energy in the presence of an incident photon (driving force). If the energy is emitted as a photon exactly out-of-phase with the incident photon (fully anti-coherent), the two photons would destructively interefere, reducing the net energy of the system and therefore violating conservation of energy. In fact, if the emitted photon is anything other than exactly in-phase with the incident photon, conservation of energy is violated. Thus the emitted photon must be exactly in-phase with the incident photon, and is therefore fully coherent with the incident photon.
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  27. Re:Correct Units? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Wrong. Here is a good explanation in lay terms. You can find much more detailed explanations with a bit of digging.
    That site is totally wrong about the origin of coherence in laser light. I sent the following to the site maintainer:
    RE: LASERS EMIT COHERENT LIGHT, BUT NOT BECAUSE THE ATOMS EMIT IN-PHASE LIGHT WAVES

    I ran across your site, and I would like to point out that your explanation for the coherence of laser light is incorrect. Coherence and phase are intrinsically-related. Measurements of the temporal or spatial coherence of light are in fact measurements of the relative phase of two different samples of a light wave. The fact that stimulated-emission results in an emitted photon that is exactly in-phase with the incident photon does explain spatial coherence. This is because the laser beam originates as a single (or relatively few) spontaneously-emitted photon(s). That photon is amplified by the stimulated-emission process to form the laser beam. Because the path of the initial photon is generally not along the optical axis of the laser cavity, and because it can be coherently scattered as it propagates through the gain medium, it traverses the gain medium along many paths. Thus the entire laser beam inherits its phase from the initial spontaneously-emitted photon, and is therefore fully spatially-coherent. Even if we consider the laser beam to originate from several spontaneously-emitted photons, the result is that beam is the superposition of several fully spatially-coherent beams, which can be shown to be a fully spatially-coherent beam.

    You are correct that starlight becomes more spatially-coherent by propagating long distances, but that cannot the mechanism for the spatial-coherence of a laser, as I will explain with a fairly simple counter-example. With Q-switching, it is trivial to switch a laser on and off within 10 nanoseconds, in which time light travels about 3 meters in vacuum. Yet the laser pulse can be measured to be as or more coherent than starlight, even though its propagation distance is on the order of meters rather than light years.

    You are correct that the pure color (monochromaticity) of laser light is due to the mirrors (which form a Fabry-Perot or some other resonant cavity), but I would argue that the explanation for the pure color for laser light is at a less advanced level (third-year physics undergraduate) than the explation for its coherence. Coherence is an advanced-undergraduate to graduate-level topic, as a proper analysis of coherence requires Fourier transforms, and the coherence of stimulated emission is a topic in quantum electrodynamics. The most readable but rigorous treatment of optical coherence that I am aware of is _Statistical Optics_ by Joseph Goodman, but even that is written at the advanced-undergraduate to graduate level.
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  28. Re:Correct Units? by Hal-9001 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I rebut that link in this reply to one of your other comments. The feedback due to the mirrors does contribute to the spatial coherence of the beam, but ultimately it depends on the fact that the stimulated emission process is temporally-coherent (in-phase). A Q-switched laser is a simple counterexample (at least to an optical physicist). Another simple counterexample that I neglected to mention in that other post is this. According to your theory, if I remove the laser medium from the laser and shine light into the former laser from one end, the output from the other end should be spatially-coherent light. This non-laser laser is actually a device called a Fabry-Perot interferometer, and it does not cause spatially-incoherent light to become spatially-coherent (also a simple experiment to do in an optics lab). Thus feedback is insufficient to explain the spatial coherence of a laser.

    For a proper treatment of coherence, I recommend Statistical Optics by Joseph Goodman, or if you're a masochist you can attempt to tackle Optical Coherence and Quantum Optics by Leonard Mandel and Emil Wolf. :-p

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