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Lead Mozilla Developer Talks Windows CE

Posted by Zonk on from the tiny-dinosaur dept.

An anonymous reader writes "The Lead Developer of the Minimo (Mini Mozilla) project, Doug Turner, has ported Minimo over to the Windows CE platform. He discusses this new version of the lightweight edition of Mozilla in a newsgroup posting." From the post: "Currently, I am building against the Pocket PC 2003 SDK. We may want to adjust this at some point, but I thought it would be acceptable place to start. The binary is 3.8MB compressed not including security. To run the build I have, you need about 5mb of memory to display www.google.com."

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  1. 5 megs to display google.com ? by moro_666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "To run the build I have, you need about 5mb of memory to display www.google.com."

    and can someone remember who was the one who said that 64kb is enough for everything ?

    i remember when i used to play around with an Elektronika computer which was built in USSR, it the same massive 64kb of ram and only a floppy drive ....

    everything that was supposed to work, worked.

    ofcourse .. the www wasn't invented just yet ... not even mentioning windows or any browsers ...

    argh these good old days ...

    anyway ... there must be something wrong both with platform and the browser if the simplest page on the net need 5mb to render itself :(

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    1. Re:5 megs to display google.com ? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      5MB isn't much for a WinCE app to use while running- my GPS map browser uses about that much, as does Windows Media. HOWEVER- his EXE size seems a bit large to me (3.8 MB) as Pocket IE on Wince is only 18k for the exe- though I think it has lots of DLLs.

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    2. Re:5 megs to display google.com ? by damiam · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IE6 under Windows 2k3 is only 90k. It really is nothing more than a shell around a bunch of dlls.

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  2. Posted by Zonk on Thursday February 17, @07:41AM by keeleysam · · Score: 2, Funny

    from the dept.

    So I guess this will ahve to be duped later with a departmant tag???

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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  3. Options by opposume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Options are key in continuing the advance of the handheld environment. I think it's great that they're porting "mozilla" over. I look forward to using it.

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  4. Needs to be smaller, but without security!? by solafide · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That seems a little unusual for a browser that prides itself on security to drop it in a minimum build, even if that just means no SSL.

    It is still commendable that it is being made smaller - that is its main disadvantage.

  5. Minimo lead developer by asa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Doug Turner is the lead developer for the Minimo project at Mozilla. This project has a focus on small consumer devices and so this news of a WindowsCE port is very exciting.

    --Asa

    1. Re:Minimo lead developer by khanyisa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Asa is trying to say politely that Doug Turner isn't the lead developer for the whole Mozilla project, as the slashdot summary says. Please fix it up :-)

  6. Now all we need to do is disable JavaScript! by kriston · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the two things that a large ISP didn't like about Mozilla was the fact that it required 18 megabytes of memory just to run the Gecko engine so they stuck with their own renderer for "rich text" email and other UI elements.

    The second thing they didn't like was the total inability to remove JavaScript from the product. JavaScript is (evidently) required to render HTML pages by Gecko.

    I guess one out of two ain't bad.

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    1. Re:Now all we need to do is disable JavaScript! by OldMiner · · Score: 4, Informative

      The entire user interface of Mozilla is defined by XUL, a markup language. But XUL only says "create a menu and add these menuitems". It does not implement any program logic, for, say, what to do when a menuitem is clicked. All actual behavior has to be implemented via Javascript. So it's not so much Gecko that needs Javascript but that the UI of Mozilla does. And that includes such things as pop-up menus when you right click.

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    2. Re:Now all we need to do is disable JavaScript! by damiam · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can disable Javascript in Gecko quite easily. The Mozilla interface itself requires it, but it can be disabled in the frame that shows the actual page.

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  7. smaller 1x browser? by icepick72 · · Score: 4, Interesting


    An interesting item I ran into a while ago is the 1X browser: it fits on a floppy, is very small yet surprisingly functional and fast, however it requires payment (trial version available from the site). I think it works only in Windows -- I can't find any info about it being ported to CE.