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AMD's New Low-Power CPUs

illumina+us writes "AMD has released a new family of CPUs targeted at the portable computing market. The new CPUs, collectively named Alchemy, consume less than 1Watt of power. The CPUs have already been named the CPU of choice for Tivo's new Tivo-To-Go technology and are powerful enugh to run DivX, WMV9, and MPEG. The AU1550 consumes just 0.5 Watts at 400 MHz and the AU1100 consumes 0.25 at the same clock speed. These processors consume so little energy they don't even need a heatsink."

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  1. One catch by Quasar1999 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I bet they aren't x86 compatable... cuz if they were... HOLY CRAP!

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  2. Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I like high powered processors.

  3. FLOPS per Watt? by DumbSwede · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It'd be nice to see how these stack up in FLOPS per Watt.

    Perhaps these are the chips Supercomputer manufactures should be building machines with. Sounds to be low in cost to build AND low in cost to run.

  4. how long.... by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 5, Insightful

    until we can get that kind of low power consumption on desktop chips? is there something inherent in desktop applications that prevent some chip maker from making a really low-power, high-performance (~1GHz) processor?

    1. Re:how long.... by evilviper · · Score: 2, Insightful
      is there something inherent in desktop applications that prevent some chip maker from making a really low-power, high-performance (~1GHz) processor?

      HAHA!

      What you obviously don't realize, is that Intel's LV P3 933MHz (1.15v) processor was very low power. Under 12watts, the lowest spec chip since they made 486s. Even if you can't find that specific chip, P3s and Celerons of about that speed are only a few watts more.

      If you are an AMD fan, the Sempron 1GHz proc is only 20watts, and there are plenty of AMD64 procs with nearly as-low power specs.

      In addition, run fvcool on your AMD system to get the S2K support, and the processor will be using a fraction of that power when it is idling. Intel has the advantage of not needing stupid hacks like S2K bus disconnect, and doesn't require certain special motherboards. But if you have the right motherboard, AMD is just as good.

      So, what the hell are you complaining about?

      What I want to know is when motherboard manufacturers are going to stop keeping their specs secret. After buying a couple very high-power motherboards, I've tried to get that information from all the major manufacturers like MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, etc., and they all either promise it they'll send me those (but never do), or they ignore my request completely. I'd buy from PCChips at this point, if I could just get the power specs from their site for each motherboard.
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  5. Good chips are not the problem by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Getting these things into some decent laptops is. I only issue IBMs at my company and for good reason: the Stinkpads are built like tanks.

  6. Well done, AMD by masterOfTheObivous · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This might very well be AMD's next big thing. The Athlon 64 garnered a lot of attention for them, but now they've entered a new market- competing with Via's Mini-ITX series. SFF's that need the power for MPEG-4 decoding so they can be a good home theater PC would do well to be equipped with one of these. In fact, they even mention:
    "AMD Alchemy(TM) Au1200(TM) Processor - is a low-power, high-performance processor solution for Personal Media Player (PMP), automotive and Digital Media Adapter (DMA) applications.

    The implications of a low-power, low-heat solution with a lot power go beyond the home theater. The idea of "ubiquitous computing" (IMHO an awful blanket term that gets thrown around far too often) might become possible with a small but still powerful processor.

    The one last innovation that caught my eye was the on-processor AES encryption/decryption. Anyone have any ideas of practical applications for this?

    1. Re:Well done, AMD by SpongeBobLinuxPants · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do we need low-power cpu's in a home theater system when an hdtv takes 300 watts or more to have on? What's an extra couple of watts in the cpu going to save?

    2. Re:Well done, AMD by Temsi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      need the power for MPEG-4 decoding so they can be a good home theater PC
      Since most people don't really need a second computer dedicated to TV watching, this could be a great for a WIFI/Ethernet box that reads videos from the main computer in the house, or even from a firewire drive.
      Small enough to put in the living room, and since it has no fan, is completely silent (provided it's diskless as well).

      Having wasted my money on the 933Mhz Mini-ITX that could barely decode mpeg2, this sounds infinitely better.
      Granted, HDTV support would be great, but I think it's only a matter of time before AMD goes in that direction.
      A fanless multimedia front end capable of processing WM9,MPEG4,MPEG2 decoding at full 1920x1080 resolutions would go straight to the top of my list of must haves.

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  7. Re:Obligatory Simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ya know what. It's not obligatory, it's stupid now.

    It was funny for the first 500 stories someone did it on, now it's just dumb. As is saying something is obligatory, give it up people... it's not funny anymore.

  8. Why Tivo would run this on the main CPU... by Moryath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two words:

    NO HEATSINK.

    If you can get a video board that works with only a passive heatsink, and then run this thing with a minimal heatsink, you lower your heat problems.

    Lower them enough, and you can get a smaller fan to cool the entire unit, or even get away without a fan entirely (though given how long a TIVO has to stay turned on, it's likely you need some minimal level of guaranteed airflow to avoid overheating the unit the same way you used to be able to overheat an NES).

    But the smaller, and fewer, fans you have to put into it, the quieter it is. And living-room appliances want to be as quiet as possible, to avoid interfering with the quiet moments inside of a game/movie/TV show.

  9. Re:PDA's by cnettel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OTOH, the current crop of Pocket PCs are able to decode DivX in 640x480 with ARM-based chips from Intel, even without video acceleration. It's not like this kind of performance is a revolutionary breakthrough.

  10. Re:We use these (they are smokin!) by scatterbrained · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wish you guys would have submitted your Au1x00
    patches back to ecos! I wanted to use redboot
    on something we're doing, but wound up using
    u-boot instead, just because I didn't have time
    to get all the scaffolding in place for redboot.

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  11. Re:PDA's by LuSiDe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was thinking: Perhaps its good for competition (and hence price)?

    Last time i checked, the Sharp Zaurus was pretty expensive, especially the newer models. What was it again, like $700 for the newer model in Japan. I know PDAs sell like baked bread in Japan but still, why are these toys so expensive? A friend of mine has a CL 5500 and while its a very nice PDA it was also pretty expensive when he bought it. And, newer versions are more convenient.

    I hope to see more competition / prices going more down since i'd love to see the GSM (as in, a telephone) integrated with the PDA (as in, basic simple office work, e-mail synced, WiFi/UMTS) with a multimedia player (preferably also Vorbis-compatible). I want 1 device which is small enough but also gives me the features i want to have without using a beast such as a laptop and without having 1 device like e.g. the GSM which can phone (what i actually want), SMS (expensive!), play retro games (boring!) without the features i also would like to have.

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  12. Re:imagine... by eh2o · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems to me that its about high efficiency, not low power. Merely having a low power chip does not help a supercomputer if you need that many more of them to get the same performance.

  13. low power chips often better tradeoff by idlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Generally, the relationship between compute power and power consumption for a single chip is super-linear. So, for well-parallelizable problems, using more chips that are individually less powerful helps you with overall power consumption.