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Huge Star Quake Rocks Milky Way

SJrX writes "The BBC is reporting that scientists have detected "the biggest explosion observed by humans within [the past 400 years]". The explosion luckily occured about 50,000 light years away form us, on the far side of the Milky Way, as the article goes on to say that had the explosion been within 10 light years of us, it "would possibly have triggered a mass extinction.""

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  1. More Informative by dev_sda · · Score: 5, Informative

    I though that the New scientist article on it was a bit more informative.

  2. Re:Excuse me but... by Ced_Ex · · Score: 5, Informative

    10 light years is really close... Thats like only 3 times the distance form us to the sun.

    Considering that it takes 8 mins for light from the sun to reach Earth, I think your calculations are a bit off.

    365 days x 24 hours x 60 mins = 525600 mins/year

    525600 mins/year x 10 years = 5256000 mins

    5256000 mins / 8 mins = 6.57x10^6 times

    Therefore 10 light years is actually 6.57x10^6 times the distance from us to the sun.

    QED

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  3. Re:Equation constraints by augmenter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Given that the "constants" in the Drake equation are order-of-magnitude estimates and that explosions like this are very rare, I don't think it will be a real impovement.

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  4. Re:Breaking news! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ya know, IANAPOAPOA (I Am Not A Physicist Or AstroPhysicist or Astronomer) but I'm willing to bet that if I were 160,000 kilometers from this object, or even our sun, I might be worried about other things than my credit cards getting wiped.

    That's why YANAPOAPOA. I can imagine the interview.
    "If you were 160,000 kilometers from this black hole... we'll, you'd be in space, so you'd be dead! So don't go there!"

    Magnetic fields are difficult to characterize. What are you going to do, tell people the field is 1000000000000 Tesla? (Yawn, what's a Tesla?) You can't compare magnetic fields to hens eggs or Libraries of Congress. The only thing you can really do is compare them to a field strength that people are intuitively familiar with- like a refrigerator magnet's field, an MRI field, or a field sufficient to wipe magnetic cards. Refrigerator magnets and MRIs come in a variety of field strengths. Plus, smartasses would make comments about refrigerators and magnetic imaging machines in space.

  5. Re:Faintly heard by SETI by KFK+-+Wildcat · · Score: 3, Informative

    That must be the Dynamite Monkey by Random McEric, originally on Fark's The last thing you'll ever see photoshop contest.

  6. Re:Excuse me but... by handsome+b · · Score: 3, Informative

    10 light years is 3 times the distance from earth to the sun? Light takes approx. 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun. Thus, the earth is 8 light-minutes from the sun. Thus, the earth is not 3.33- light years from the sun.

  7. Re:Breaking news! by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    If the sun was only 10 kilometres from your house, a mass extinction might occur.
    Seriously, this has to be the most bizzare astronomy story tagline I've ever read. I figured this was the submitter's quote, or possibly the article writer - nope, it was from one of the physicists.

    Why is it bizarre? When I read it I understood what he meant and why he said it. Light years are big. For anything ten light years distant to have a measurable effect on the Earth is pretty amazing!

    The radiation intensity at the surface of the Sun is 63,000,000 watts per square meter. (Your 10 km makes no real difference.) The intensity 10 light years (10^17 m) away from a 10^40 watt source would be approx. 100,000 watts per square meter. So you'd have to be 25 solar radii away from the Sun for its radiation intensity to be equivalent to this magnetar if it were ten light years distant. (For comparison, mercury orbits at about 86 solar radii.) Nitpickers may note that the Sun is mostly radiating UV through IR, and the magnetar's energy is brief and in the gamma ray spectrum, but this is still impressive.

  8. Re:Faintly heard by SETI by Agripa · · Score: 4, Informative

    It does not look like FARK's link to the Dynamite Monkey is hosted anymore. It is too good to miss:

    http://www.banishedsouls.org/635850d13f/Dynamite_M onkey.jpg

  9. Re:Equation constraints by mbrother · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Drake equation IS an equation. That's the right term for it in science, hard or soft. The number of technological civilizations in the galaxy we can communicate with is equal to the product of the probabilites/numbers on the other side of the equal sign. Just because some of those numbers/probabilites are uncertain does not stop it from being an equation. For instance, it isn't a proportionality or an approximation (unless you actually start pluggin in approximate numbers). And I wouldn't say that the term equation is a "title." You're reading too much into this.

    These sort of estimation games are really valuable in lots of branches of science and often lead to insight. Enrico Fermi used to do this all the time, which is especially relvant since his "Fermi Paradox" about how it's strange we haven't encountered alien intelligences is the same sort of thing that Drake formalized.

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  10. Re:Equation constraints by mbrother · · Score: 4, Informative

    ???

    I guess I've observed there too many times for such a joke to be funny. Lick Observatory is named after James Lick who funded the establishment of the Observatory back in the 1890s. It's an interesting place -- the first observatory put on a mountaintop (it was originally going to be in downtown San Francisco, imagine that). His ashes are kept in a memorial under the 36 inch refractor.

    It's a spectacularly pretty location, overlooking the bay, and the old observatory portion is all marble and brass, 19th century elegance. I got married there and the reception was great (band, catered dinner, and the 36 inch refractor was available for guest viewing).

    The road to Lick from San Jose is a very twisty 19 miles. The mules, originally used to haul material there, wouldn't go up more than a six degree incline, so it's switchback city. This also makes it a popular road for bicyclists. I used to be annoyed with them, since I had to go there semi-regularly for work and often drove while sleepy. I imagined I'd come around a corner and have a tired rider at zero speed in the middle of the lane. They paid me back though one time. I was sitting in the dining room eating breakfast one afternoon, and these two riders and a car pulled up. The car driver switched off to ride a bike, and she stepped in front of the window and stripped out of all her clothes while the milk dripped off my spoon, caught halfway to my mouth. Good times.

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  11. Raw reports of the burst by vrmlguy · · Score: 4, Informative
    http://gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov/other/180620041227.gcn3

    This is a series of emails that discuss the burst. Interesting posts include the following:

    There were a series of small bursts observed before the big one, but no one seems to have realized that they were precursors until after the big one arrived. "During 21 December more than 30 SGR-like bursts were detected by Konus-Wind and Helicon-Coronas-F" satellites.

    The burst was detected by the Mars Odyssey spacecraft. "A very preliminary analysis indicates that the arrival time at Odyssey is indeed consistent with an arrival direction from SGR1806-20."

    There is also discussion of an Earth-orbiting satellite that did not have a direct view of the flare; however, it picked up a faint echo 7.70 seconds after everyone else saw it. "This value corresponds exactly to burst travelling time from the Wind to the Moon and back to the Coronas-F."

    Finally, serendipious observations were made by spacecraft whose primary mission is solar observation. "The SGR was 5 degrees from RHESSI's pointing axis which was directed toward the Sun."

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  12. Re:Classical vs. Quantum physics... by man_ls · · Score: 3, Informative

    My understanding is, at the densities we're talking about, the force of gravity is stronger than the nuclear forces of the atoms -- you get funny things like electron orbits being heavily deformed.

    A spinning neutron star that's charged on one side more than another due to gravity pulling electrons around, would induce a magnetic field. Probably a damn strong one too, seeing the forces involved.