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Pentium 4 6XX Sequence and New EE P4s Launched

Mojo-Dog writes "Today Intel took the wraps off their new Pentium 4 Processors with EM64T extensions for 64-bit computing. The Pentium 4 6XX Sequence and Pentium 4 3.73GHz are based on Prescott 2M cores with a full 2MB of on-chip L2 cache as well. HotHardware.com has a full review with benchmarks posted of these new P4s, many of which also offer Intel's SpeedStep technology for power savings and improved thermals, which has been available in Pentium Mobile CPUs for some time now."

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  1. At least by reassor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "older" P4 will have a price drop,which will be good for People saving 50$ on a new System.

  2. The most intriguing part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... of this new CPU is how little power it uses compared to older Prescotts:

    http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-263-11. htm

    http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/pentium4- 600/index.x?pg=16

    Load temperatures are the same levels as idle temps on the old prescotts!

  3. Re: EM64T Extensions - 64-bit computing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Item 2 isn't a "design error", it's a trade-off at any moment in time whether you support 64-bit addressing, doing so means a lot more transistors, and if (as with Intel) most of your customers are buying mid-range desktop machines that's a bad trade in 1992, in fact it was still a bad trade as recently as 5 years ago.

    Item 3 is an improvement, but you mis-described NX, it doesn't "prevent buffer overflows" at all. It's a _marginal_ defense again deliberate stack smash attacks in which executable code is written during a buffer overflow. Buffer overflows have been used by Black Hats quite happily on Alpha, MIPS etc all these years despite non-executable stacks. It remains to be seen whether the development cost for this feature pays for itself in terms of raising the bar for black hats.

    Item 1 is a trade-off again, but one that Intel should have made years ago, perhaps when they designed the 386. 128 registers means a lot more silicon, yet many inner loops will never use more than a dozen or so registers, meaning you either make price/performance worse, or you sacrifice something else (maybe vector instructions) to keep costs down. Every designer makes their own decisions here, and they're validated in the market. Eight wasn't enough, Sixteen is definitely closer to the sweet spot.

    AMD made good trade offs with x86-64, they were rewarded in the marketplace and Intel are jumping on the same bandwagon now with EM64T.

  4. Re:2MB Cache? by photon317 · · Score: 3, Interesting


    RISC processors always have more cache than CISC processors, it's part of the design tradeoff. RISC takes less silicon to implement the core than CISC, which leaves more room to dedicate to the cache. Also the same complex operation requires more instructions on a RISC than a CISC, thus you need more L2 to keep the same amount of functional code in cache.

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  5. 64-bit GPUs by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If I'm not totally incorrect we may see 64-bit GPUs in the next few years (2007?). IIRC, there was some remark from some ATI/nVidia guy somehere. Perhaps it was relating to the upcoming Unreal 3 technology, I really don't remember. Or, was it 128-bit colours? Hrrrmmm...

  6. Re:A crappy processor with a new crappy lease on l by psydragn · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I think 'severe decline' is somewhat strong wording for Intel's current state. They still owned over 82% of the X86 market in the last quarter.

    Don't forget that Intel does a lot more than X86 CPUs too. They just retook the NOR flash sales title (admittedly after losing it, through another stupid business decision), and Hector Ruiz may now be mulling the sale of Spansion because of the intense competition. On one hand they are up against the wall WRT being forced to use band-aid solutions for the current P4 CPUs as a result of their bull-headed run for MHz, as well as the limited acceptance of Itanium. On the other hand, however, they are dominating the mobile sector with P-M and are expanding that platform; they also have their hands in things like WiMax and other emerging technologies; and don't forget they have enough money in the bank to probably buy AMD.

    With Otellini now being fairly frank about the competitive landscape, I think it's possible that the company has reached a turning point.

  7. Re:Forests, not trees by evilviper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Your own post is pretty misleading.

    The Itanium didn't offer drastically improved performance for the price, and AMD processors don't sacrifice much performance for x86 compatibility.

    <blockquote>As in the past, backward compatibility won out over superior technology, and AMD has been winning market share from Intel.</blockquote>
    Not true at all. Price/Performance won out. In this case, the better performer for the price, just happens to have better backwards compatibility as well.

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