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Build High-End Audio System w/ Hard Drive Storage?

nganju asks: "Hard Drives have finally reached the size where I can rip down 1000 CDs directly to WAV files, and skip the compression step (read: headache) altogether, ensuring that the audio playback is what the original CD author intended. Now the question is, how do I get that WAV data off the computer and into the amplifier with minimal distortion? Are there D/A PCI cards comparable to high-end CD players? Or is the best solution some direct digital output card (SPDIF) and a standalone D/A converter component? Specific model names would be greatly appreciated."

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  1. simple by Keruo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just use optical output at the soundcard such as sb audigy.
    The signal will be in totally digital form, until your amplifier D/A converts it back to audio.
    That way your computer/soundcard won't affect the sound quality at all.

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  2. Re:Lossless compression does exist. by crow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have you compared the prices of 200GB drives with 400GB drives? The higher capacity drives cost more than double. Now if you happen to have more storage space than you know what to do with right now, then fine, but sooner or later you'll find that running a script overnight to compress your files is less painful than the cost and effort of a hardware upgrade.

    And if you're doing backup by syncing over the network with another system, then you cut in half the storage cost on the other system, as well as the network time.

    If you have enough computing power to manage a file system on a hard drive, then you have enough power to uncompress a file as you play it--that's why they put MP3 players into DVD players; it didn't increase the hardware cost.

  3. Re:Lossless compression does exist. by Matt+Perry · · Score: 3, Insightful
    right, and at a 1000 cds, compresseion time certainly is a factor. even with lossless.
    Write a script or use one of the many existing tools to mass convert the files for you. That way the computer is working, not you. There are scripts already written to do this. I'm doing this with my music. I re-ripped everything to FLAC when I noticed that one of my oldest CDs was developing cracks inside of the plastic. I used the script to convert all of the FLAC files to MP3 files. If the format de jour changes I can update the script and reconvert and let my CDs rot away (which they appear to be doing anyway).
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  4. Re:Lossless compression does exist. by fm6 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Somebody needs to explain the difference between lossless compression and lossy compression, since nganju seems to be under the impression that all compression is lossy.

    Lossless compression does not discard any data; when you decompress the data, you get back exactly the bits you compressed. The trick here is to represent common values with short bit strings, so you can represent the same data in less space.

    Lossy data compression discards data that (theoretically) won't be noticed. The theory is that people tend not to notice the missing data, because the human brain is very good at interpolation. If you don't trust this theory, then you should avoid lossy compression. But not lossless compression.

    Wikipedia, as usual, has a lot of good material.

  5. Hifi-Link by PurpleFloyd · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A company called Xitel makes the "Hi-Fi Link," a USB-based audio-out gadget. I haven't used it, but it looks like a good solution: USB has several major advantages when outputting analog data. First, it lives outside the electromagnetic noise storm that is the typical computer case. Second, it acts as a second audio device: this means you can, if you wish, hook up cheap speakers to your soundcard for system sounds, and output nothing but music to your hi-fi system (I use this system, with two soundcards, and it is far better than having Windows or Gnome intersperse your music with noises).

    Another solution is to get a card with S/PDIF digital output and an amp which supports it. This is a good solution if you already have such a soundcard, but the soundcard upgrade can be expensive. On the whole, if you're starting from scratch, I'd go with USB.

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  6. Re:ABX test. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do an ABX test.
    Anecdotal stories do nothing to convince me.
    Besides: A 256Kbit CBR MP3 is crap. The --alt preset settings are very high quality CQ VBR settings.

    Comparing video artifacts to audio ones is apples to oranges.

    Simply do an ABX test and _then_ let's talk.

  7. Re:Lossless compression does exist.-not by br0ck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Take a 10 Mb text file and zip it. You'll get a much smaller file. Unzip it and you get exactly the same file. Now zip a .wav file and you'll get a file about 20-40% smaller. Unzip and you get the same .wav file. Now heavily optimize zipping specifically for audio data you'll get a file 30-70% of the originial size. Now optimize that zipping routine to allow unpacking on the fly for convenience. Now unzip the FLAC audio on the fly giving you the original .wav data and then send that audio stream to the hardware exactly as you would have if you had just sent the .wav file. (This is very simplified just to get the gist of it. For a more comprehensive overview try this.)