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Apple Backing Away From FireWire

farmdwg was one of several readers to submit stories about Apple backing away from FireWire. The latest generation of iPods no longer ship with FireWire cables, but instead use USB 2... although FireWire can still be purchased seperately.

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  1. Backing Away? by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Backing away?

    Certainly not. FireWire is still integral; it is the standard for communication with a DV camcorder; it is important to the function of iMovie. The iLife suite is a big draw. I know people buying Macs just because of iLife.

    Arguments of which standard is better aside, USB 2.0 is more widely available. As the article states, "It's more cost efficient to ship with one cable rather than two, and USB is more broadly supported on both platforms." It's not Apple backing away, it's Apple making a business decision. If they later remove FireWire support from the device, then you can get upset.

    Using USB in the Shuffle was key because the, as mentioned, USB 2.0 is more broadly supported, and the connector is built it. Using FireWire on the Shuffle would have prevented it from reaching its target audience.

    Apple is trying to save money and drop prices at the same time. Sure it sucks for us FireWire users. I have several FireWire peripherals and will probably spend the extra $20 getting the FireWire cable when I get my next iPod (hopefully soon). But it's a luxury, because I have USB 2.0 anyway.

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    1. Re:Backing Away? by flink · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "It's more cost efficient to ship with one cable rather than two, and USB is more broadly supported on both platforms."

      Except this is crap. When I bought my 40GB 3G iPod, it came with only a Firewire cable. At the time, I had a PC with only USB, so I went to the Apple store and bought a cable that has both USB and Firewire connectors. For $20! You could even plug the USB part into the PC and the Firewire into the AC adaptor and you could sync and charge at the same time.

      Why doesn't Apple just ship all iPods with this cable and make everyone happy?

    2. Re:Backing Away? by bth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sounds to me like "market segmentation" in corporate buzzspeak. Who buys shuffles and IPOD minis? Are they mainly Windows users, users of older Macs (who cannot use USB), or users of newer Macs (who can use USB)? If most are Windows users and new Mac users (and you are trying to cut costs), then you pick USB as the default cable.

  2. This isn't the Apple of old by Infonaut · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Apple is trying to save money and drop prices at the same time.

    That tells it all. Apple is keeping FireWire, of course. The C|Net "oh my God, we're gonna DIE" headline aside, FireWire is still a very important technology for Apple, particularly because of their investment in FireWire for DV. The distinction is in how a more nuanced Apple is handling it. In the old days Apple would have kept FireWire cabling in the box simply because they felt FireWire was a better technology.

    These days Apple has a much, much firmer grip on the realities of the consumer electronics and computer markets, and decisions like this bear that out. As Oculus Habent stated, it does suck for FireWire users, but it's not a terrible burden to bear to have to buy a FireWire cable. This is a case of Apple keeping costs down in an effort to stay one step ahead of the competition.

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  3. While I normally despie "I call BS" posts ... by FreeUser · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... I have to agree with you wholeheartedly.

    This was a cost savings move and nothing more.

    And it makes the front page of /.

    Why do I come here anymore?


    I'm starting to wonder the same thing. Slashdot has never been known for its "vetting" of stories, or even much editing of the captions, but the last few weeks it's become really terrible. Stories spinning the broadcast flag and attempted banning of digital HDTV VCR-like hardware as "piracy prevention", pro-ms stories rearing their heads more and more in what is (or was) supposed to be a free software/opensource news and discussion forum, and an ever increasing number of flat-out misleading headlines that misrepresent TFAs, and links to TFAs that are flagrant products of MPAA/RIAA shills ... I'm beginning to think this site is dead and we just don't know it yet.

    Anyone know of any decent competitors out there?

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  4. Apple killed firewire with their $ fees by steve_l · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Back in 1997, Firewire was going to be the connector everywhere in PCs, in and out. IDE, SCSI, external -all 1394b. Even laptop docks

    But then apple demanded $1 per port, which would mean $5-$10 per PC, plus something for every peripheral.

    The result: USB2.0. That's right: USB2 came into existence primarily because of Apple's pricing strategy for 1394 ports.

    So it is kind of ironic that they are not shipping firewire on ipods to better serve the PC market. If they hadnt got greedy, there might not be a USB2.