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Microsoft Admits Targeting Wine Users

Posted by Zonk on from the why-wouldn't-they? dept.

Buddha Joe wrote in to mention that the lack of Windows updates for Wine users is the result of a Microsoft's active targeting of Wine users. ZDNet has the story. From the article: "As the most popular third-party translation technology in use, Wine was the first emulator to be specifically tested for via WGA"

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  1. Re:The Interview by un1xl0ser · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    That's funny. Mod up. Flamebait my ass.

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  2. And this suprises you? by LordPhantom · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What, exactly, suprises anyone about M$ft targeting Linux EMULATION users? Allowing Windows (especially Microsoft ones) applications to be run easily and well in an "emulator" (ha!) on Linux would show them to be as incompetent at business planning as they are at providing bug-free software.

  3. Re:No obligation... by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    If you are using Windows Media Player and IE under Wine and you have paid for a Windows XP CD, should MS go out of their way to ensure that you cannot automatically update this software on Wine? The assumption is that you DO have windows and are running portions of the packaged applications like IE under Wine and since you own Windows they probably should not block you from using windows update.

  4. Re:No obligation... by Conor+Turton · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    They are asking Microsoft to UPDATE MICROSOFT SOFTWARE running under wine.

    Windows and Office Update requires ActiveX. Its not Microsofts fault your shitty emulator doesn't do the job properly. You keep saying Linux users are supposedly more IT literate than Windows users yet you seem unable to manually download and apply the patches.

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  5. Did you purchase MS Office for WINE or WINDOWS? by Smilin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Let's be clear about something: You bought MS Office for WINDOWS. You didn't buy MS Office for SOMETHING LIKE WINDOWS. You don't expect MS Office for Mac to run on Windows, why would you expect MS Office for Windows to run on something else? You've been lucky so far, but now your luck has run out.

    If you bought it then obviously it is your software and you can do what you want with it. Just don't expect MS to go to great lengths to help you run in an unsupported manner. It's like expecting Nintendo to help you get your ROM game running on a SNES emulator.

    I know you all love to hate Microsoft but I think they are being quite fair this time. WINE uses dlls and modules that were written by Microsoft yet they have not paid for them. Is WINE violating copyright? No, they are asking you to do that for them.

    I don't get the big deal anyway. What are you running Office on *nix for anyway? Shouldn't you be using that piece of crap, OpenOffice anyway you sellouts?

    I think this is definately Microsoft's way of acknowledging WINE. Of course my way of acknowledging flies is by pulling out a rolled up newspaper. It certainly doesn't mean I feel threatened.

    You don't even know what anti-trust means.

    1. Re:Did you purchase MS Office for WINE or WINDOWS? by Smilin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I'm not talking about DLLs you've paid for. I'm talking about the ones you haven't paid for. The "secret sauce" for Windows is the libraries. WINE works at it's best when you pirate a copy of those libraries and use them.

      Looky:
      http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-use r/config-d ll

      (that link above ends in "dll" /. seems to put an odd space in there)

      I think Nintendo SHOULD takes steps to make sure their ROMs do not run on emulators. They sold you the game to run on a Nintendo didn't they? How does allowing a ROM to run on an emulator help them sell Nintendos?

      One of the great things about Windows is all the applications available for it. If you hate MS and don't want to use Windows fine, don't let the door hit you in the ass. Just don't come whining about your sorely missed apps once you're over there. Deal with what you have and don't try to gripe or sue your way out of your predicament.

    2. Re:Did you purchase MS Office for WINE or WINDOWS? by nmaeone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You have a weird view there.. Using DLLs you've not paid for? You just bought office.. That means you've paid for it, fair and square..
      Why shouldn't you use them how you like?

      IIRC, you did not pay for those DLLs, you merely pay for the license to use them. What those DLLs do internally is none of your concern nor is it within your ability to change -- again, you did NOT pay for the DLL, or even a copy of that DLL, but only for the right to USE it. If that DLL checks for a specific version of Wine and breaks on purpose due to Wine's presence, you then also have the right not to use that DLL (I'm sure you clicked 'Agree' if you got that far), so switch to OO.o.

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