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42nd Mersenne Prime Confirmed

Jazzer_Techie writes "The possible Mersenne Prime discovered last week has now been confirmed. This prime has 7,816,230 digits, which makes it not only the largest Mersenne Prime, but also the largest prime of any kind ever discovered. For those who don't want to take time to read the article, the prime is 2^25,964,951 - 1."

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  1. Participate in the search by Drooling_Sheep · · Score: 5, Informative

    GIMPS (Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search

    They have Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and OS/2 clients.

  2. Might not be the 42nd largest by MarkByers · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is confirmed that it is a prime, but it hasn't yet been confirmed that it is the 42nd largest prime, because some numbers have not been checked.

    From TFA:

    However, note that the region between the 39th and 40th known Mersenne primes has not been completely searched, so it is not known if M20,996,011 is actually the 40th Mersenne prime.

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    I'll probably be modded down for this...
    1. Re:Might not be the 42nd largest by Eric+Smith · · Score: 4, Informative
      Of course it's not the 42nd largest prime. It's not even the 42nd largest known prime. It is the largest known prime.

      It is easily proven that there ISN'T a 42nd largest prime, because there isn't a largest prime.

  3. PARENT NOT FLAMEBAIT (GIMPS:name of project) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    GIMPS is the name of the project that apparently was responsible for finding this, so the parent was a joke, not flame bait.

  4. Re:Why? by MC68000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best reason for large Mersenne prime numbers that I can think of is that it gives data for mathematicians to formulate conjectures. There are many consequences to theoretical breakthroughs in the field of prime numbers, especially in the field of encryption, as the RSA algorithm requires large prime numbers.

    Note: This new prime number by itself is USELESS for encryption. There are only 42 Mersenne numbers, so they can't be used because there are insufficiently many.

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    E = m c^3 Don't drink and derive E = m c^3
  5. "Not only" the largest Mersenne prime ... by gvc · · Score: 4, Informative

    The top three previously known primes were Mersenne. Here's a list. At the time they were discovered, almost all largest Mersenne primes have held the record for biggest prime until being edged out by another Mersenne prime. I am not sure when a non-Mersenne last had that status, but it is a rare occurrence.

    Looking for Mersennes is "picking the low fruit" when it comes to prime hunting so I question the phrasing "Not only is it the biggest Mersenne .."

    What would have been remarkable would have been if the new largest prime were *not* a Mersenne.

    1. Re:"Not only" the largest Mersenne prime ... by jeffwolfe · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am not sure when a non-Mersenne last had that status, but it is a rare occurrence.

      391581*2^216193-1 was the largest known prime from 1989 to 1992. Before that, the last non-Mersenne record was 1951-1952. A complete list can be found here.

  6. Re:Largest known perfect number? by MC68000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    yes. There is a theorem due to Euclid that every even perfect number (a number which is the product of all of its divisors except itself) is of the form
    (2^n-1)*2^n. The given form does not apply to odd perfect numbers, but it is unknown whether any odd perfect numbers exist.

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    E = m c^3 Don't drink and derive E = m c^3
  7. Re:2^25,964,951 - 1 by bird603568 · · Score: 2, Informative

    actually its 25964951 :)

  8. Re:Largest known perfect number? by CarlDenny · · Score: 4, Informative

    You mean a number which is the *sum* of all of its divisors except itself.

    A number which is the product of all its divisors except itself is, well, any product of exactly two primes.

  9. Re:2^25,964,951 - 1 by neurophys · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just started my PC to compute it:
    echo "2^25964951-1"|bc -l>prime

    If you put 'time' in front, the system will tell you how long it takes.

    Just checked that 2^1000000 took about 8,5s, but it is not linear. I expect it to take some 15 minutes one my AMD64

  10. Re:Largest Prime? by MC68000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is not true. The number p1*p2*....*pn+1 is either a prime, OR it has a factor that is not one of the p's. In either case, you have a new prime, which as an aside proves that there are infinitely many primes.

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    E = m c^3 Don't drink and derive E = m c^3
  11. One use of Mersenne Primes... by MAdMaxOr · · Score: 3, Informative

    is the Mersenne Twister (MT), a pseudorandom number generator.

    Pseudorandom number generators are periodic, that is they start repeating the sequence of "random" numbers, after a while. This is bad. The period of the MT is as big as the Mersenne Prime that you choose to base the algorithm on. So, if you wanted a REALLY long period, you could use this new prime. In practice, however, very few people need this long of a period.