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AOL Opening Up AIM Community to Third Parties

DaffyD writes "Refocusing its vision for AOL Instant Messenger, America Online is endeavoring to revitalize the service by opening up its community and presence to third parties. In addition to partners such as CareerBuilder, AOL is seeking to enlist independent developers to build extended AIM services and hopes to offer a plug-in architecture by the end of the year. ICQ recently added such functionality through its open XML-based Xtras feature. Maybe AOL is feeling the heat from alternatives such as Gaim and Adium."

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  1. <AOL>Me, too!</AOL> by fembots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Next up is presence integration with CareerBuilder's online recruiting Web site. Job seekers can now register their AIM Screen Name with their resume to provide prospective employers with a real-time connection. A user's online status will be indicated by the Running Man icon.

    Whatever you do, just make sure you change your screen name once you got the job, your new boss may be checking out your running man while you're supposed to be working.

  2. Please god let them do it right by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And not let spyware type stuff get added to it. Lets hope their "addon" framework is a bit better than IE's "addon" framework.

    1. Re:Please god let them do it right by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you mean like they already try to do when you install AIM's official Windows client?

      They want to know if you want to install WeatherBug.

      Cute.

    2. Re:Please god let them do it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which makes me wonder why no-one has sued them for false advertising. All these stupid AOL commercials on TV about "Welcome to the real Internet" where they mention that they will stop spy ware, virus, and pop-ups but they still produce it themselves. But selling on peoples ignorance of cause works very well.

  3. Smart move, but... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't really think it'll save them....they need to bring something new to the table, and all they're doing here is bringing more of what everyone else has already brought.

    Too little too late, IMHO.

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  4. They bring servers by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dont forget they IM type services require servers to function..

    AOL is brining that to the table.. Without those servers, clients will be all dressed up with nowhere to go..

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  5. Here's a Clue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "America Online is endeavoring to revitalize the service by opening up its community and presence to third parties."

    You want to revitalize the service? Don't install a bunch of extra crap (like "get AOL Broadband NOW!" icons) on my computer when I grab your messenger. Ad-generated revenue is acceptable in a "free" service, but keep it in the buddy list window, please, instead of popping up a bunch of other windows. Don't make me go buy DeadAIM or whatever just to use your messenger without the kind of problems that make me think of spyware and adware.

    That would go a long way to "revitalizing."

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  6. here's an idea for 'revitalization' by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about releasing a version of the AIM client that is actually more enjoyable to use than the previous one, instead of more annoying?!

    Weirdly enough, when people install an instant messenger client on their computers, their first thought doesn't tend to be "Oh boy, I hope this thing gives me a stock ticker and a dozen popup advertisement windows!"

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  7. Re:Cleary a response by SwimsWithTheFishes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The bottom line has already been taken care of by canning their IT Development Department.

    Now they have to figure out some way to get the coding done. Now let's see...

    1. Outsource overseas.
    2. Contractor in US.
    3. Open source.
    4. Profit!

    Finally we see that Step #3 is.

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  8. Re:Me, too! by mzwaterski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd be more concerned about someone else hopping on your computer when ProspectiveEmployer91241 sends a message to you...

  9. Re:Don't Forget Trillian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dude. It's not like Trillian is this huge group of corporate scum building an IM client. It's a couple of guys who got together to build something that obviously YOU couldn't do in time (congrats on having MSN nearly done... welcome to 1999). So "wah wah wah" about bugs all day long, these guys actually released something.

  10. Offline Messaging by MCron · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While offline messaging is already available through third-party systems such as DoorManBot and some clients, such as TerraIM already have it integrated, it would be nice if AOL would actually make it native to their default client.

    I hope their statements of supporting additions to the service will truly be open and not restricted to those the company already does business with. By making it open, the afford the opportunity of the broad support enjoyed by open source projects, where users feel they have some power.

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  11. Gaim and AIM by Georules · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In my experience as a developer I would love to use GAIM, but find often that file transferring hardly ever works, which is a very useful feature when collaborating on a project. I has the same problems in my Trillian days. I loved GAIM and Trillian because I could connect to all the services, but recently have found myself primarily using the propietary AIM and MSN clients for reliable file transfer. I RTFA, but I fail to understand how opening the protocol make it so that more people will use their client/clients that they would profit from. I can't imagine people using alternative clients are taking away from AOL's service, and when it is open to other clients, the majority of alternative users will just bum off of the AIM servers. What am I missing?

  12. Re:Now all they have to do... by dcclark · · Score: 1, Insightful

    WHAT?! U R Still On the Old AIM!

    AIM 5.9 Allows U To Do So Much More W/ UR Buds


    Adium has an (optional) plugin that actually filters out people who talk like that... :)

  13. Not at all by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing in the article says they're opening up to alternative AIM clients. They are allowing companies to "partner" with them, probably involving large licensing fees, to add AIM "presence" (on/offline information) into their products and produce approved plugins for the advertising-riddled official client. That doesn't help GAIM or Adium or Jabber or any other open-source project. It probably doesn't help Trillian either.

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    1. Re:Not at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're one of the few people here that actually read _and_ understood the article, I applaud you.

  14. Re:Now all they have to do... by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's only one thing to do with Buds, and that's light them up!!

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  15. Re:Why No Standard? by dago · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In fact, that's part of the problem ... they are 3 different standards now :

    * SIMPLE (RFC3428, based on SIP)
    * XMPP (RFC3920, based on jabber work)
    * WirelessVillage (from the OpenMobileAlliance)

    Fun, eh, there are as many open standards as proprietary networks.

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  16. Key to interoperability: server to server protocol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    AIM is only a non-propreitary system when they have released a fully documented server to server protocol which any foreign server can use to allow its users to communicate with AOL users, and does not require any special prior arrangement for the connection to be made or interface to be used, and does not restrict the protocol from being implemented and used without restriction in open source software.

    The key to an IM system being open I believe is a completely documented fully functional server to server interface which allows any foreign IM system with its own user namespace, run by anyone to interface with it and to communicate with its users. It works like this, lets you have seperate systems at servicea.com, and serviceb.com, each service has its own user namespace, meaning each manages its own database of usernames and username registration, so each server can have a user named, for instance, joeuser. joeuser@servicea.com would send an IM to joeuser@serviceb.com, and servicea.com would open a server to server connection to serviceb.com and the message would be sent between the services. Unlike IRC, the connection is made without prior arrangement, any server can connect to any other server when the user tries to send a message between the two.

  17. chat bots by dreadlock9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Recently I noticed that AIM has an IM Robots section where there are a few bots you can interact with. AOL's new API should include a way to develop new chat bots.

    They should develop a gateway that would allow an ordinary web server to send IMs, that way a web server could run chat bot scripts in a common language, such as PHP. This could be the catalyst for a diverse population of chat bots, which could be entertaining and/or useful.

  18. deleting accounts by clymere · · Score: 2, Insightful
    maybe they can open up their servers so that other, more responsible people can run their own.

    AIM has been plagued with accidental account deletions over the past several months. The official line is that while cleaning up old, unused accounts, they have deleted some good ones. But this issue has been ongoing for several months now.

    Personally, i had AIM reset my password daily for two weeks, then suddenly cancel my account..for no reason whatsoever. More infuriating, is that there is no support contact information on aim.com, at all.

    Do some googling and you'll find this is a widespread problem. There was even a /. story at one point.

    If AOL doesn't get their act together, they are going to really lose some ground in an area they have traditonally dominated.

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  19. Re:Cleary a response by Disoculated · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Informative? AOL may be a lot of things, but it made almost a BILLION dollars in profit last year. The declining stock price is the result of the bubble and a shrinking member base, but they're getting better and better at squeezing green out of the stones they have left.


    More like the merger completed right at the time the bubble burst, and Time Warner was really pissed off that the 'money' they'd been bought with was suddenly worthless. Couple that with AOL's haughty attitude in trying to unify the technology of the company, and you get a blind hatred of the AOL unit by the rest of TW. That hatred, more than anything else, is what's sabotaged AOL from becoming anything better in the past five years.


    I mean, c'mon. AOL can't even get the rest of TWX to put any syndicated content other than People and a snippet or two of CNN in it's bowels, when the whole point of merging was to do just that. Time Warner hasn't given it any of the cable access promised, no real content except movie trailers, no access to it's music holdings, and no respect in it's press. I think they WANT it to die rather than realize they were as gullible as everyone else back in 1999.


    Hopefully this'll help turn them around. I mean, yeah, it's AOL. Not very exciting of a tech company. But they've done a lot of open source work (yes, seriously. Mozilla, TCL Aim, AOLServer) and they're one of the most powerful litigants against spam and for online privacy. They've also been a good stepping stone for millions of people before heading out to the 'real' internet. Having them around has probably done more good than harm to the geek community.