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Spyware Critics Respond to iDownload/iSearch

Paul Laudanski writes "Slashdot ran an article earlier on 'iDownload Tries to Silence Spyware Critics'. Since then, the spyware critics have responded to iDownload: CastleCops, NetRN, and Sunbelt Software. InternetWeek and BroadbandReports have picked up this story as well. Brian Livingston interviewed iDownload's CEO Arlo Gilbert, who claims the letters were a success: "The majority of sites we've contacted have taken down or properly classified iSearch" and "When asked to name some of the sites that had complied, Gilbert answered, "I'm not going to share that information. It would be shooting a gift horse in the mouth."" General overview by Kye-U and Zhen-Xjell."

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  1. Shooting a what??! by mvdw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Talk about mixing metaphors! "Shooting a gift horse in the mouth"?? It should be either "looking a gift horse in the mouth", or "beating a dead horse", but neither of those matches what he's trying to say...

    1. Re:Shooting a what??! by Avyakata · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it makes some sense...what he means is, (I think) "why destroy something so beneficial to me that I barely had to work to produce in the first place?" which has absolutely nothing to do with a gift horse...

      Okay, so maybe you were right after all...

    2. Re:Shooting a what??! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      i'm pretty sure he meant "raping a gift horse in the mouth"

    3. Re:Shooting a what??! by eatjello · · Score: 2, Funny

      that comment struck me as a poor mix of metaphor and porn references, but what do i know?

    4. Re: Shooting a what??! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


      > Talk about mixing metaphors! "Shooting a gift horse in the mouth"??

      Aw, give him a break. You know the important attribute for the "CEO of Spyware Company" character class is low CHA, not high INT.

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    5. Re:Shooting a what??! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe he meant a Trojan horse?

    6. Re:Shooting a what??! by Allnighterking · · Score: 2, Funny

      Given the current "brilliance" of a number of business moves I've read about in the last 24 hours *cough* true.com *cough* I'd say it's also possible that he honestly thinks that is what you are supposed to do with a gift horse. *sigh*

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    7. Re: Shooting a what??! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Aw, give him a break. You know the important attribute for the "CEO of Spyware Company" character class is low CHA, not high INT.
      Clearly he forgot to equip his +5 Codpiece of Charisma.
    8. Re: Shooting a what??! by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      No need to wonder about his alignment. They never occur as chaotic-good.

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    9. Re:Shooting a what??! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1, Funny

      His metaphor lives on Endor!

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    10. Re: Shooting a what??! by incognitopoet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Excellent use of an AD&D reference! I am always happy to see one of the primary culture badges of geek culture flashed with pride.

    11. Re: Shooting a what??! by MrWa · · Score: 3, Funny
      You know the important attribute for the "CEO of Spyware Company" character class is low CHA, not high INT.

      He should re-roll and max out INT to use the "Magic Wand of Bullshit Cloudkill" and be able to cast "Confusion" from a scroll. I'm sure he can find a CHA ring by searching the My Documents folder of one of his "customers".

    12. Re:Shooting a what??! by Gamma_UCF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shoot the Gift Horse in the Mouth and win the Free IPOD!!!

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    13. Re:Shooting a what??! by Frodo+Crockett · · Score: 3, Funny
      "I'm not going to share that information. It would be shooting a gift horse in the mouth."

      Make that man a Slashdot editor!

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    14. Re:Shooting a what??! by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought he meant, "Shooting a gift horse in the foot."

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    15. Re:Shooting a what??! by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think what he actually meant to say was "shooting the gift horse that lays the golden eggs in the nose to spite its own face."

      Easy mistake to make.

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    16. Re:Shooting a what??! by RetardSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      eh, he is not quite "the brighest cookie in the toolshed" quoting myself of course, as that is one of my favorites to use.

  2. Well if you're going to butcher analogies... by Icarus1919 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I personally would have gone with something from Back to the Future. He could have said that he told the companies to make like a tree and get out of here.

    1. Re:Well if you're going to butcher analogies... by Mr2001 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate."

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  3. Yeah, sure. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    > "When asked to name some of the sites that had complied, Gilbert answered, "I'm not going to share that information. It would be shooting a gift horse in the mouth."

    Yeah, and all the lurkers send me supporting e-mail when I'm the only person taking one side in an argument on Usenet.

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  4. When corporate-speak goes bad... by tattoi.nobori · · Score: 5, Funny
    Gilbert is quoted as saying, ""I'm not going to share that information. It would be shooting a gift horse in the mouth."

    He went on to say, "I can tell you that we've got positive engagement in critical areas. We're definitely going to grab this bull by the horns of the dilemma, and leverage our synergies with a focus on the future. It's a win-win situation."

    1. Re:When corporate-speak goes bad... by Allnighterking · · Score: 1, Funny

      Is he using Gee-Dubya's speach writer again?

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  5. I don't understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    how listing the empty set is like shooting a gift horse in the mouth.

  6. Ob. Futurama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "If we hit this bullseye, this house of cards will fall like dominos... Checkmate!" - Zap Brannigan

  7. And if he did shoot... by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 5, Funny
    it would be the first time a horse's ass has ever shot a gift horse... in the mouth.

    Maybe he meant to say that it would be like beating a dead gift horse... after, of course, shooting it... in the mouth.

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    1. Re:And if he did shoot... by Skater · · Score: 2, Funny

      PHB: We're killing a dead horse.
      Dilbert: I think you mean beating a dead horse.
      PHB: Why would anyone beat a dead horse? /Dilbert TV show reference

  8. Hmmmm by AutumnLeaf · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet if they named their product 'iBeEvil' they'd have the same number of installations.

    How many joe-blow users read these pop-up install dialogs. "What? iBeEvil? Oh - a security fix from Micrsoft. Yes, install, if it lets me get to what I clicked on."

  9. You Don't Like Internet Explorer, eh? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny
    "I dont want any software i cant remove 100% ...that tracks what websites i visit, or files i download... transmit data over a network without my permission.... "

    I get the impression you don't like Microsoft Internet Explorer very much, do you?

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  10. Shitware happens by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny
    "iDownload is now no longer classified as Spyware. It is now Shitware"

    Tell me where I can download ShitAware and Shitbot-Search-And-Destroy? or ShitBlocker? I'll be the first there to download it.

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  11. Tortoise conduct by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "protect iDownload from your continuing tortuous conduct [He means 'tortious' or injurious conduct. Ed.]." "

    I think he really meant tortoise conduct. My system has really been running slow since I installed the thing.

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  12. iAm so iSorry by Allnighterking · · Score: 1, Funny

    But iTold you this was the outcome. iKnow you believed that others where men and women of iNtegraty, Since you yourself are one. But iHave found that iNtegraty is not a virtue of the iCentury called 21. The iMoney is all that matters. We have reached to age of Hollywood goes to Washington. iHope we all survive.

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  13. Re:Shitware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes. In my brain, iDownload is now no longer classified as Spyware. It is now Shitware. Please address complaints to brain@luigi30.fl.us.

    Seriously. What did they hope to achieve by this? Common people have figured out that "spyware" == "bad" so they have to make up their own terms to get around that? Who do they think they are, Gato^H^H^H^HClaria?


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  14. Re:Is it... by DaveJay · · Score: 2, Funny

    You surf porn sites and run "programs" to download porn, you're gonna get infected. You download illegally copied works, youre gonna get infected. You open absolutely every attachment, even if it says "happy98.exe", you're gonna get infected.

    You think that surfing the web describes an accident between a surfer and a fishing trawler, you might be a redneck.

    Oh, wait, what?

  15. Google search for bob dole sausage fetish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    59,000 hits.

    1. Re:Google search for bob dole sausage fetish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually only 266.

  16. Re:The Ents go Marching.... by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't cross the plot streams. It'd end with the last Ent being knocked down by a Delorean.

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  17. Re:Ambulance chaser of the month... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny
    Funny how he left 'stooge for scumware authors' out of his specialities...

    He didn't want to ruin his reputation.

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  18. Re:Is it... by ramblin+billy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, couldn't we all just try to be fair for one second please? Just because every trusted anti-spyware group around says iSearch is a scum of the Earth, lying, back stabber installer using, bold faced lying, web trail tracking, configuration raping, big fat dirty liar doesn't mean it's true - does it? I think we should let the folks at iSearch know that there's no chance we'll EVER forget this overwhelming industry wide attack on their good name. I suggest that every member of /. send them a brief message just to let them know that the IT community is watching! IMHO maybe something like:

    Dear Accussed Scumspreaders,
    I just wanted to jot a quick note to let you know your fellow members of the IT community are keeping a close eye on you in this time when seemingly every single hand in the business is raised against you. We can only marvel in bemused disbelief at your steadfast maintainance of innocence in the face of accusations leveled by some of the most trusted names in the anti-spyware field. Rest assured that you are not alone - we are standing close behind you - looking over your shoulder. We promise we won't forget - EVER. When the truth comes out - and it absolutely will - it is our fervent hope that you reap the just reward your actions have earned.

    That's just a suggestion of course. I think every member should send something like it to them just so they know the IT community stands ready to take care of its own. What do you think - send it say - 4 or 5 times a second for 3 or 4 days? That oughta send the right message.

    billy - who would never, ever, do anything like that...

  19. Wait... by raehl · · Score: 2, Funny

    We have to INSTALL porn now? I miss the old days when you could just pop it in the VCR.