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AMD Plans Simultaneous Desktop and Mobile Chip Releases

wh173b0y writes "Tom's Hardware reports that AMD is planning to release both it's dual-core desktop and mobile chips at the same time. This news comes after AMD, who have been fairly quiet since the release of the Athlon FX-55, came up shorter than intel on the release dates for it's dual-core processors. Intel on the other hand has been busy planning more than a dozen different chips to release as well as pressing its software designers to embrace its 64-bit architecture."

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  1. Re:Dual core laptops? by Splork · · Score: 3, Informative

    keep your pants on. only one CPU core runs when on battery and most likely not even at full speed.

  2. It's... by neutron2000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...not it's, it's its. Holy crap. And it's even an entity... It took effort to be that wrong.

  3. Re:Older Laptops by ekul.taylor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Socket 939 and 940 will work (you will probabley need a bios update). If I remember correctly socket 754 should work as well. Thank you integrated memory controller. That is only for the first release of dual core chips. Once the cores have shared cache and the like I think you need new core logic for the northbridge

  4. Re:Eff pee? by MatthewNewberg · · Score: 3, Informative

    I currently run a AMD Mobie 2600+ (forgot the wattage). The thing is great, overlocks easily (isn't clocked locked)and with pretty cheap, normal, quite cooling solutions. Not only that, but it also runs a lot cooler then the normal athlon XP which means you dont need as many fans. It is so nice to have a CPU that doesn't go over 100F, and the case temp to go with it. I really hope in the future that AMD continues to make mobile processors that you can use in desktops.

  5. Re:Catch-22 by swillden · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most have no use for dual cores and devs have no reason to implement support until their customers have them.

    I don't agree that most people have no use for dual cores. Sure, most applications don't make use of them, but all modern operating systems are multi-tasking and the ability to have one CPU taking care of all of the common busywork while the other one is crunching on whatever your main task is does make a difference.

    If you don't believe me, find a dual processor machine sometime and spend some time working on it. It's surprising how much smoother and more responsive it is -- often, a dual-processor machine *feels* faster than a single-processor machine with far more than twice the actual performance. I have a dual 500Mhz PII box that still surprises me every time I touch it. It feels faster than my 1.4 GHz Athlon and seems about as quick to respond as my Athlon64 3400+.

    For common tasks, users will find they actually prefer two cores at 1 GHz over one core at 4 GHz. The dual-core machine will be cooler (and therefore quieter) and will often be more responsive, even though it will be much slower at straight-line CPU-bound tasks.

    People will like these.

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  6. Re:Maybe it's just me... by mike5904 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wrong. Although these statements are often referred to as Moore's law, they are much more accurately termed corrolaries: the "law" actually only states that the number of transistors on a chip will double every 18 months. This is after a revision process as well, since I believe the original statement used either 6 or 12 months. According to Wikipedia, in 1975 he revised his law further, to a two year doubling period.

  7. Re:Eff pee? by Laebshade · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean like the AMD Mobile Athlon XPs? I know you meant dual-core, but still.... these nice gems go in (most) desktops and laptops.

  8. Re:News flash by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Informative

    Desktop and mobile chips mean a lot in difference, it's not just about having more idle modes. The thermal design power of the fastest Pentium M chip is 25 watts. The slower and ultra low volt P-Ms are in the mid-single digits. I am certain that the leakage power at idle of even a slow desktop Athlon 64 is higher than the fastest Pentium M running at 100%.

  9. Speaking of Spelling ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    From the original blurb:

    release both it's dual-core desktop
    release dates for it's dual-core processors

    "its".

  10. Re:Who currently sells an AMD 64-bit laptop? by kf6auf · · Score: 2, Informative

    I sure hope you are talking about Fahrenheit there as I think most people would assume that when not specified CPU temperature is in Celsius and 98C is pretty warm (and I don't even know if a pair of pants would protect your jewels from that furnace). Anyway, metric is the way to go -- but then maybe I should tell that to the JPL engineers across the street, so I guess for now I will settle for not making the rest of the world think we are all stupid for being American by at least letting them know we are using Fahrenheit.

    Now, since /. is primarily American, mod me to hell just for asking for the units.

  11. Re:Arr. by Glock27 · · Score: 2, Informative
    While AMD seems to have the upper hand in design, intel is stomping them into the dirt on sales.

    That isn't really true...AMD has been gaining marketshare again recently. It is up to around 18% of the overall market, and is rapidly increasing its sales of server/workstation chips. Opteron went from 3.5% of server sales in 2003 to 6.5% in 2004. That is almost 100% growth, all at Intel's expense.

    AMD has been behind in mobile offerings, but Turion may change that - it competes directly with Pentium-M (the processor part of the 'Centrino' marketing package).

    Plus, AMD is set to ramp up it's CPU production capacity quickly over the next couple years, to around 100 million processors per year. If it can sell all of them, that will put it close to 50% of the market at that point (give or take). Given the power savings and mostly superior performance with AMD chips, things are looking good...

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