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WinFS to be available in WinXP

ScooterMcGoo writes "According to a Microsoft Watch blog, WinFS is being back ported for Windows XP. From TFA: WinFS isn't dead, Tom Rizzo, Microsoft's director of product management for SQL Server, recently told Microsoft Watch. In fact, Microsoft is planning to provide an update on the technology at this year's Professional Developers Conference (PDC) in September, he said. Rizzo said that Microsoft is busily back-porting the WinFS file-system technology to Windows XP. It's unclear if Microsoft also is porting WinFS to Windows Server 2003, but such a move would be likely, given that the Redmond software vendor is doing so with Avalon and Indigo."

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  1. Aha, that explains it ... by ggvaidya · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought the Bill-Gates-as-borg icon had a slightly wider smile today ...

  2. WinVapor by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Funny

    WinFS announcements are one of Microsoft's most popular products. Thanks for the upgrade!

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  3. Why Longhorn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And now what reason do I have to upgrade to longhorn?

    Oh Wait
    1. Slower Performance. Why would I acctually want free system resources?
    2. DRM, Who doesn't want their rights managed by M$
    3. Spending More Money. Who doesn't want to give their money to M$, really?

    1. Re:Why Longhorn? by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't worry. I'm sure that the cracked version that gets released a week before it ships will take care of the second and third points.

      Actually, by the time Longhorn actually ships Linux 3.2 will be stable. That will take care of all three.

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  4. Microsoft has hired... by lbmouse · · Score: 5, Funny
  5. Re:Longhorn by jerichohol · · Score: 2, Funny

    It will be probably XP SP6 by the time it is released.

  6. Re:WinFS by XzeroR3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My google partition works well.

  7. Re:And I care why? by flumps · · Score: 3, Funny

    It stores meta data along with all your files, so ... you have to spend more money on a bigger hard drive! Yay!

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  8. Re:Longhorn by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Funny
    Expect seamless integration of these features, as well as the best support options, to be available in Longhorn.

    We had Internet, 32-bit color, and multitasking in Windows 3.1, but no one seemed to complain about the jump to Windows 95 (especially because they didn't have to tinker with CONFIG.SYS/AUTOEXEC.BAT to get games working.) Similarly, while new advanced technologies may be available in XP for developers and power users to preview or even use it is no substitute for the successful integration and exploitation of these features at all levels of the operating system.

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  9. Standard?? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think that the most important Question here is ... is microsoft going to provide an specification for the fs?, and, in case they do, will it be licensed in a GPL-compatible way?

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    1. Re:Standard?? by theparanoidcynic · · Score: 2, Funny

      Open standards? Microsoft?

      Oh wait, you were serious. Hang on while I laugh harder.

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  10. Can't wait! by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Funny
    ooooh, o00000h, oooooooh! Can't wait.

    After seeing how completely incompetent and pants-wetting funny awful Microsoft is at file searching with the little doggie, I can't wait to experience having a few more unnecessary, superfluous, extravagant, and bloated layers HELPING me.

  11. Re:Sure... by wolfgang_spangler · · Score: 5, Funny
    If Microsoft wants to make WinFS a fundamental part of their strategy, they must back port it. Forcing developers to upgrade before they can develop is foolhardy.


    I think you misspelled "monopoly"
  12. Re:What's left for Longhorn? by loraksus · · Score: 5, Funny

    You'll find out in 2010.

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  13. Re:woohoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny


    I like Windows XP Home Edition.

    It is the most powerful operating-system for Pee Cees. It looks not as gay as Mac OS X by Steve B10 Jobs and has 1,0000,0000 times more softwares that the Linus-operating-system.

    Plus, it comes with every Pee Cee for free. People who have grown acusstomt to paying RatHat 699 $$$ or more can hardly beleive this when I consult them with my proffesional Internet- and Network-Service-Center-Bureau.

    Wehn I have a new customer, I take him to the back-room to show him the "alternative" to XP Home, which is Suse Linux 9.0.
    I have set-up an old Pentium 133Hz and a small monochrome monitor to show teh customer what Linux looks and feels like.

    I have it set-up so it runs a fullscreen-Flash-splash-screen on the KDE3.3beta-desktop. It takes 13 min until the mouse cursor responds.

    The customer will them make a sound like: "BAH!"

    Then I tell them: "See, this is how it is if we let the communists make software."
    Then we have a good laugh, wich is psycologicallish valuable for the customer-relatively.

    I always tell them:
    "Windows XP Home Edition is all you can do to embiggen the producationality of your human resourcers and empower to leverage the outcome-bottomlime of your stickholder ... plus even more!"

    My customers usually are like: "OMG!"

    You should really try it one day; it has a very nice light-reddish color theme to hit your tastes.

    Thank you!

  14. Re:WinFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    As a developer, WinFS's usefulness is obvious: storing desktop application settings, configuration, temporary files, even serialized runtime objects, is a royal pain when having to worry about actual files on disk. You have to worry about asynchronous file I/O, duplicate files, making sure directories exist, making sure you clean up your temporary files, making sure the user or some other program hasn't royally screwed you configuration files, just to name a few. With a database-backed file system, the developer only has to deal with data, not the underlying file system.

    Huh?

    Desktop application settings, configuration => the registry
    Temporary files => GetTempFileName(), CreateFile() FILE_ATTRIBUTE_TEMPORARY FILE_FLAG_DELETE_ON_CLOSE
    Worry about asynchronous file I/O => mutexes, file locking (how'd WinFS help this?)
    Duplicate files - ?
    Making sure directories exist => CreateDirectoryEx()
    Making sure you clean up your temporary files => FILE_FLAG_DELETE_ON_CLOSE
    Making sure the user of some other program hasn't royally screwed your configuration files => how'd WinFS help with this? Can't they overwrite the config files if you store them there, too?

  15. Re:What's left for Longhorn? by indros · · Score: 2, Funny

    It won't be susceptible to the LAND attack, perhaps?

  16. Re:WinFS by goofyspouse · · Score: 5, Funny

    "So not only is it a file system, it is also a search engine."

    Man: WinFS is a desert topping.
    Woman: No, it's a floor wax.
    Man: Desert topping!
    Woman: Floor wax!
    Announcer: You are both right...WinFS is both a desert topping *and* a floor wax.

  17. Modded into oblivion by DarthVain · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now with 20% MORE Clippy!

  18. Re:What's left for Longhorn? by Proaxiom · · Score: 4, Funny
    Parental controls on things like amount of time a user can play a particular game, use an application, or browse the web (while this may seem pointless to most geeks, as a parent I know this will be useful).

    Me too. I feel it is important for my children to figure out how to circumvent protection measures like this, thus adding a little extra education to their computing experience.

    Kind of like: "Of course you can play Mickey Mouse Toddler, as soon as you crack the password-based encryption I put on the executable. And what do I keep telling you about leaving your Legos on the floor?"

  19. Re:This is how I see it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just curious...

    What color will "long horn" "dye"? Purple? Green?

    Since obviously you have all the answers, I figured you'd know better than anyone.

  20. Re:Excuse my ignorance but... by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 2, Funny

    User: "Where is my Word Document?"

    Hopefully, it's in his $HOME directory and not lurking about the entire filesystem like my word documents...

  21. Re:What's left for Longhorn? by mormop · · Score: 2, Funny

    The name?

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  22. Re:What's left for Longhorn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What's going to be new in Longhorn?

    Stuff that will be old in Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5.

  23. LOL WHAT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I believe that's his point -- to get you freaks to crawl out of your android dungeons.

  24. Re:WinFS made Outlook Express totally unusable. by spamspamspamspam · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now, be fair... you can't really blame WinFS for that