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Plextor PVRs Now Support Linux

planetjay writes "Plextor PVRs now support Linux with an open source SDK for their ConvertX PVR external USB TV tuner/encoder This is great news for Linux PVR users who want to use an external device with hardware based MPEG-2 and MPEG-4/DivX encoding in their MythTV or Freevo homebuilt PVR. "Plextor is strongly committed to supporting the Open Source Software movement with free development tools that help speed the creation of next-generation Linux-based video software," said Dirk Peters, director of marketing, Plextor."

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  1. Only NTSC tv tuner by rar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The sad thing is that the built-in tv-tuner only supports NTSC, so this product is obviously not targeted for europe...

    1. Re:Only NTSC tv tuner by bjerre · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have a look at the NorthQ 6600 instead.
      http://northq.com/products/tvvideo/nq6600.html

      Same product just cheaper AND it features PAL!

      I have it running on my RedHat at home // chris

      Linux driver and manual is found on their support pages:
      http://northq.com/faq/

      PS If you're attending CeBIT this week they are in Hall 24, Stand B16

    2. Re:Only NTSC tv tuner by JanneM · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um, that one doesn't seem to have a tuner at all. Note that the Plextor can use both PAL and NTSC signals as well; it only has a tuner for NTSC, though.

      Interesting piece of kit anyway - thanks for the link.

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    3. Re:Only NTSC tv tuner by lutchann · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are three models of the TV402U: North America, Europe (PAL) and Japan. The difference is the frequency bands that the tuner can receive. Only the NA tuner is supported currently but we'll add support for the PAL and Japan tuners in the next couple weeks.

      The M402U is just like the TV402U but without a tuner, and it's also supported in Linux. Both of these devices can accept NTSC or PAL baseband inputs on the S-Video and Composite ports, regardless of the frequency bands the on-board tuner supports.

  2. Re:Any advice on hardware encoders? by planetjay · · Score: 3, Informative
  3. Re:gee by enrico_suave · · Score: 3, Informative

    " Ofcource I've yet to see a company make something compatable with my satalite service. So, in the meantime I'm stuck with the DVR in my Sat Receiver."

    you basically can use almost any DVR with an external satellite set top box. You just route the video/audio output of the STB to the DVR/encoding card and use an IR blaster or serial cable to control the STB (i.e. change the channels at the appropriate time)

    The only rub really would be if it's an HDTV satellite service, as that's a different wrinkle =)

    e.

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  4. Re:Tivo? by enrico_suave · · Score: 4, Informative

    " Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Tivos already Linux-based? And didn't they just recently come out with an SDK for third-party users?"

    They do use linux as the base part of the TiVo, but all the juicy stuff is propietary AFAIK.

    The SDK is for the home media option only, i.e. to develop applications that reside outside the tivo on a PC, and add functionality over the network... which is pretty cool and people are doing cool stuff already with it, but it's not a full blown access to TiVo's innards...

    *shrug*

    e.

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  5. Re:What's the easiest? by mjh · · Score: 4, Informative

    Try KnoppMyth. I don't know if it crosses your threshold of "easy", but it's definately easier than building myth from soruce.

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  6. Re:What's the easiest? by enrico_suave · · Score: 2, Informative

    well there's knoppmyth mythtv installer that makes it pretty easy. Pair that with a pvr250 and a nvidia video card and you should be in great shape (I'm reasonably sure in the near future the knoppmyth project will add support for the plextor convertX - I hope)

    If you go to the dark side (windoze) it can be pretty easy... shameless plug check out some of the articles on byopvr.com for some good diy background, recommendations, etc..

    e.

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  7. Re:gee by enrico_suave · · Score: 4, Informative

    "I read recently (sorry lost the link) that we can't record HD signals from cable or satellite since they are encrypted. The amount of information from an HD feed is huge and with current technology would take a 6GHz CPU to decrypt in real-time."

    Well not ALL satellite traffic is encrypted. There's a ton of FTA DVB satellite signals out there... even hidef ones (ok they are pbs, but still... mmmmm NOVA...

    There are a few HDTV cards that CAN decode unencrypted QAM signal via digital cable, but that depends on your cable company not encrypting which is hit or miss...

    There's also the possibility of pulling the HDTV content over firewire (and controlling the STB via firewire) and I believe the latest mythtv .17 has some preliminary support for such an arrangement, again depending on if your firewire port is enabled and some other factors on your particular STB (although I'm confused as whether they have to have the firewire port be unencrytped or not, or what the regs are, to be honest...)

    *Shrug* so I guess you're basically right, but it's not out of the question, but there's not a good legal way to decrypt digital cable (or directV/dishnetwork) like using a CableCard in some HDTV's now...

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  8. Re:gee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    That defeats part of the purpose. One nice thing about DSS based PVR's (at least the TiVo units integrated with DirecTV) is they record the bit stream directly so there is no digital-analog-digital, and shows with 5.1 sound are not downmixed to 2 channel analog. In short, there's zero quality difference between live and recorded TV.

  9. Re:What's the easiest? by bwcarty · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm going to risk saying something positive about Microsoft and say that Windows XP Media Center edition is easy. It's not necessarily cheap, but it works.

    You need a compatible TV tuner (Hauppauge PVR-350), a video card with TV and 64MB or more memory, a software MPEG decoder, a DVD drive, a sound card, and a compatible remote ($35 from pcalchemy.com)

    XP MCE OEM is available from Newegg, the official MS remote is available at pcalchemy.com.

    That's about it. PVR works, the FM tuner on the PVR-350 works, DVD player works, etc.

    There are drawbacks, but if you want something easy, there you go. Plus, the Xbox Media Center Extender just plain works.

  10. 500gb media center. by bullterror · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been using Windows Media Center edition and I'm going to drop it. First off, it's unstable, having to reboot your TV once or twice a week isn't fun especially when if you don't do it you come home to find it missed your shows. Second, the DRM is really a pain in the neck. MS-DVR isn't hard to convert to a better format but it is time consuming because there's always that extra step of making it into mpeg-2. Saving a show off windows media center is actually harder than ripping a CSS encrypted DVD. (I hate to do the typical MS-bashing but I really have been having a lot of trouble with my media center recently.)

    I have been planning on buying one of the plextor units for a while, I like the idea of hardware encoding directly to mpeg-4, and I like plextor products, the have made the most reliable CD burners I've ever owned. I like the linux option, that seems like a good idea, but whatever I do I simply want it to be as versatile as possible, and Windows MCE is not versatile.

    1. Re:500gb media center. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I have been planning on buying one of the plextor units for a while, I like the idea of hardware encoding directly to mpeg-4,

      Do not be fooled into thinking that DivX = MPEG-4. The output from this device is "DivX Certified", which means proprietary DivX video with MP3 audio in an AVI container. This isn't even remotely like the actual standard MPEG-4 format.

      Yes, it is a very common format, but it is not open and not standard.

    2. Re:500gb media center. by lutchann · · Score: 3, Informative

      Everything that comes out of this box conforms to an ISO standard. If the software takes the MPEG4 output and packages it in an AVI with MP3 video, then you have a DivX file. But the hardware itself doesn't output any proprietary video formats.

  11. Re:PVRs, not PVR's by cduffy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Both forms are correct for modern usages.

    Just because an error is moderately widespread doesn't mean it's no longer an error -- and indeed, there are certainly many dissenting opinions with regard to the acceptability of using apostrophes to pluralize acronyms.

    I never understood the old reasoning behind something like "PVRs." That just doesn't make any sense. "Personal Video Recorderss" eh?

    The acronym is for an individual unit -- a PVR is a personal video recorder, not a "personal video recorders". "PVRs", thus, refers to the plural: "personal video recorders". Quite appropriate.

  12. It seems there a pal version to :p by dmouritsendk · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.plextor.be/products/px-tv402u.asp?choic e=ConvertX%20PVR%20PX-TV402U

  13. Re:Awesome by lakeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or just buy a card with multiple tuners. My pvr500 has two, but I've heard of cards with four! That way you don't have to have an ugly USB device outside the case.

    Not to take away from what Plextor has done though, this looks like it might be the solution for some people.

  14. No, it's something totally different by lutchann · · Score: 5, Informative

    The encoder is the WIS G07007SB and the board is based on a WIS reference design with improvements made in-house by Plextor. Both the hardware and the Linux drivers are quite stable.

  15. Re:what about the broadcast flag? by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 2, Informative

    The broadcast flag does not apply to analog capture cards, like the Plextor PVR. You might want to worry about Macrovision and CGMS/A, though. I don't think hardware vendors have much incentive to tell you the truth about DRM "features" in their hardware.

    An analog PVR PCI card uses about 1-2MB/s. An HDTV PCI card uses about 3MB/s. PCI has a capacity of 133MB/s shared among all the cards. USB 2.0 has maybe 40-50MB/s of usable shared bandwidth. You do the math.

  16. Re:plextor's open source lip service by Ziviyr · · Score: 2, Informative

    I actually tried flashing my 716 on freedos and dr dos. each time I got some spew about ASPI stuff.

    I had to install f***ing windows to update the thing. And I still can't make it play DVD video.

    So yeah, Plextor needs to do better to make me think they support Linux/OSS.

    Right now I envision them as Jim Carrey bent over, talking funny while trying to make his buttocks move like a mouth. (very hard to take seriously)

    PLEXTOR, GET YOUR EFFIN' ACT TOGETHER!

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  17. Re:Stereo pal tuner? by lutchann · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, the PAL model will do stereo (A2, NICAM, etc), I just haven't written the support for it yet. Similarly with VBI, although it's also coming. (Incidentally, teletext support has nothing to do with stereo reception in the audio decoder other than the fact that they're both "fringe" features that are often omitted from cheap products.)

  18. Still wrong by megalomang · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unless I'm missing something, you can totally port GPL'ed code to other platforms. You just have to distribute the source if you distribute binaries (or a platform with the binaries embedded)