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Gnome 2.10 Released
Mad_Rain writes "The new version of Gnome (you know, the desktop of many Linux users?) has just been released. You can even try it out with a LiveCD (bittorrent link). There is a video player and CD-ripping utility included, and the all-important new splash screen!"
...are here.
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Packages are already in ubuntu hoary.
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just do an apt-get update and then an apt-get dist-upgrade
As a windows user migrating over to linux, I really tried to get a good sense of which desktop was "better" and would be supported in the coming years. I was never able to get a good answer. Both have their pros and cons, and both have an enthusiastic user base. So I think both KDE and GNOME are with us for a good while now... which is a good thing!
That having been said, I use KDE.
In the past, while typing something into one application when suddenly your instant messenger offered a chat request from your friend, your words would be typed into the chat window. Imagine if you were typing your password at the time. This should no longer happen in GNOME 2.10.
Ahh, finally. This was the most annoying thing for the longest time. I actually had to change my password twice because I unintentionally IMed it to someone else. I'm actually surprised that they didn't fix this a long time ago. It was a usability/security nightmare.
The gnome.org site is apparently having a devil of a time keeping up with the bandwidth.
Give the CoralCache a try. Nice and speedy for me.
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Think of them more like IPs, you can have 127.0.0.1. Between 2.8 and 2.9 can come 2.8.1, 2.8.2, 2.8.2.1, and so on.
Goneme was a project started in 2004 by someone who didn't like the placement of "accept" and "cancel" buttons and who spent countless hour trolling in osnews/slashdot. The only patch released is from July 2004, and it weights 24 KB. As it can be seen, the mailing list is full of everything except patches.
I only can define it as "dead project" - you really have to have something more than "button order preferences is wrong", "I hate windows registry" and "spatial nautilus is broken" to fork a project. Wow, "Mac OS X is better" - what a surprise. Tell me something I don't know. Not using gecko, use KHTML? Well...wow.
I'm not against forking projects, but this fork is ridiculous. No real reasons, real gnome problems are not mentioned, half of it can be solved by changing the default preferences and no code, etc etc
The 2.12 release is what i'm excited about... the cairo implementation, better compositing support (aka transparency and shadows... fading in and out of windows etc), gstreamer, dbus, Beagle, Mono, memory reduction...
2.10 has some nice improvements and what one should consider as a release that smooths over some issues. But it's nothing terribly exciting and new. Hopefully 2.12 will be a release that blows people away.
The best education consists in immunizing people against systematic attempts at education. - Paul Feyerabend
Probably because next to nothing in KDE works unless the whole bloody thing is installed (at least in my experience) while Gnome is far more modular. The difference between a Gnome app and a KDE app is that, while the Gnome app will typically require GTK and maybe a few other Gnome packages to be installed, but will still run fine without Gnome, I've yet to see a KDE app that doesn't require all of QT, kde-base and kde-libs to run. Considering how long it takes to compile those packages (Gnome is far better than KDE in that respect) it really annoys me that I have to either include them in my regular updates even though I never touch KDE, or forfeit every QT app out there. Unfortunately, I've had to make the choice, and I've chosen the latter. Damn KDE.
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Many? As far as I know it's only the location dialog . I can't think of a good way to show it without clutering the dialog. At least it does not have the horizontal-scrolling-through-files "feature"...
Analogies don't equal equalities, they are merely somewhat analogous.
FYI: 2.10==2.1 when 2.10 is a decimal. If it's a version number, 2.10!=2.1. Well, at least depending on your numbering convention. Some people treat version numbers like decimals, but many do not. Gnome (and Apple, and the Linux kernel), use a whole number point-release system (my terminology, made up on the spot). So how that works is, when you want to divide releases, you put a point (not a decimal) and at another whole number. Therefore, 2.6.1 falls under version 2.6, as does 2.6.7. 2.6.10 comes directly after and is an upgrade on 2.6.9 in the same way that 2.6.7 comes after 2.6.6.
So 10.0 comes way after 1.0, 10.10 comes a while after 10.1, 10.10.10 comes a few patches after 10.1.1. If we wanted to further sub-divide, 10.10.10.10 would come directly after 10.10.10.9. (but that would look too much like an IP address, so maybe that's why nobody divides that far, but instead seem to label releases "r1" or "rc1" or "beta" or whatever. I could go on, but hopefully you get the idea.
Also FYI, in both gnome and the linux kernel, there's another thing to know about their versioning scheme: even and odd numbered 0.x releases should probably not be thought of as upgrades on each other. I thought that might have been the source of confusion, seeing as the list 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 2.10 skips the odd .x releases. The reason for that is, odd .x releases are development branches, and not everything in the 2.9 branch automatically goes into the 2.10 branch. Only the new features that are stable and ready make it. Some things might be dropped, and other things might be carried over to the 2.11 branch for further work.
Now, I know a lot of what I've just written is well known to a lot of people here, but part of my confusion (thinking I was missing something) came from assuming that this was common knowledge, which I guess maybe it isn't. Or was the OP trying to be funny?