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iPod Shuffle Lookalike Hits CeBIT

An anonymous reader writes "It shouldn't be long before Apple's legal team goes after this one. LuxPro out of Taiwan introduced the Super Shuffle at CeBit, a look-a-like portable that is identical to the iPod Shuffle right down to the sihouette ads, but with the addition of an FM tuner and voice recording."

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  1. good stuff gets copied. by danimrich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only good products get copied over and over.

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  2. Re:What law has been violated? by Patik · · Score: 3, Insightful
    other than that they just kind of look the same
    Kind of ?? There are more similarities between these two players than between successive generations of non-mini iPods. If they put it in a similar box a lot of people won't notice the difference. It's practically a twin.
    walking into the grocery store and finding the generic products that do about the same thing next to the name brand ones.
    For many of those products, namely medicines, the original creator has a patent that lasts many years before generics can be produced by other companies.
  3. Get over it by Zilch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, it's a bit on the cheeky side, but get over it.

    - Apple wasn't the first company to make an MP3 player
    - Apple wasn't the first company to make an MP3 player that did suffle
    - Apple wasn't the first company to make an MP3 player without a display
    - Apple wasn't the first company to make an MP3 player that plugged into a USB port
    - Apple wasn't the first company to make something shaped like a USB key/stick/dongle

    Apple is primarily a marketing machine.

    Zilch.

    1. Re:Get over it by zpok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Apple is primarily a marketing machine."

      Yes indeed, just like Sony, Philips, Renault, Toyota and most other high quality makers of commodity goods.

      Marketing means finding out what people want, finding out what people need and then making it and getting it sold. Sounds simple, no? It isn't. One of the reasons is that people mostly forget about the what people need part or the getting it sold part.

      And anyway, the making it part isn't simple either, since you have to combine design and engineering with marketing. Look at all the high quality unusable products out there or the good looking crap and you see what I mean.

      Another thing: people confuse advertising with marketing... Good marketing deserves good advertising, but good advertising doesn't sell crappie products, at least not too many times at the same people.

      For companies like Apple and Philips (one of the inventors of good marketing) saying they're primarily marketing companies is high praise indeed

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  4. Re:What law has been violated? by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, I don't know about the US, but here in the UK designs can be legally protected, so this could well be infringing under that law. Also, by calling it the "Super Shuffle" they're almost certainly going to fall foul of trademark law under a "confusingly similar" clause (Apple *has* tmed the name "Shuffle", right?)

  5. Re:*Yawn* by displaced80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oddly enough, on the Mac, it probably will do (at least, with iTunes itself, not the Store).

    iTunes Mac has just worked with every single MP3 player I've ever plugged into my Mac. Creative Zen thingies all the way down to little no-name USB players. iTunes grants Mac-using owners of these devices almost every bit of functionality that they'd get with an iPod.

    However, iTunes on the Windows side works only with the iPod.

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  6. Re:Why no AM radio? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A decent AM radio antenna (ferrite rod) would be way too large to fit in the case.

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  7. Trademark and trade dress by phillymjs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    By producing a nearly identical product to Apple's and giving it a nearly identical name, Luxpro is clearly trying to make consumers believe they are buying an Apple product. I mean, it's so blatant they're even ripping off the advertising.

    Apple can, and will, go after them for trademark issues because of the product's name, and trade dress issues because of the appearance of the device.

    If you're not familiar with it, trade dress is when two products "kind of look the same" enough (in the eyes of a court of law) that consumers could be fooled into thinking cheap knockoff B is actually name-brand product A. Trade dress infringement claims are how Apple killed off those cheesy all-in-one PCs with a blue and white/translucent color scheme that quickly appeared after the original iMac was released.

    ~Philly

  8. Re:What law has been violated? by Have+Blue · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, it means that someone has taken the design that Apple put effort into developing and duplicated it at no cost to them. This is how they were able to shove in an FM radio and record feature without increasing the price. And this is why Apple's design is protected by law, because that's not a fair business practice and it should not be done.

    Just think of it as a GPL violation. We all get up in arms about that, right?

  9. Re:No Apple FM.. by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It has to do with perceived value.

    To keep the numbers simple and because I'm too lazy to look them up right now, let's say there are 10 million iPod owners. (I think that's pretty close.) Let's say that Apple has telephone numbers for half of them, because they bought their iPods from an Apple retail store on the online Apple store.

    Apple picks a thousand of them and calls them up and asks them how they're enjoying their iPods. They follow up with a series of questions, one of which is, "Do you wish your iPod had a radio in it?" They note the answers. People who take the time to respond get a $10 gift certificate or something.

    They go back and collate the answers, and discover that out of their statistically valid sample of 1,000 users, only 20 said that they wanted a radio in an iPod. That's only 2%, compared to the 85% who said they'd like their iPod to have a longer battery life or hold more songs or be cheaper. So when Apple makes their list of priorities, battery life, size and cost are up top and adding a radio is way, WAY down on the list.

    But let's ignore that for a second. Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that Apple has the opportunity to add a radio for zero cost and zero time. Let's say somebody waves a magic "radio" wand and there it is.

    What do we know? We know that only 2% of iPod customers, on average, are interested in getting a radio, but that 85% of their customers wish the product were cheaper. What does that mean?

    That means that a whole bunch of people are going to look at the new radio-equipped, same-priced iPod and think, "I don't want a stupid radio, but Apple's making me buy one! How much cheaper could this thing be if it didn't have the stupid radio in it?"

    Even though, in our contrived example, the answer is "zero dollars cheaper," the damage has been done. The customers perceive that they're paying for something they don't want.

    A device like an iPod, especially a cheap iPod, needs to be as stripped down as possible to give the customer the impression that he's getting pure value for his money. All it does is play prerecorded music, so every dollar you spend on it is going toward prerecorded music playback. You're not paying for a radio you'll never use.

    And of course, because the market for a radio-equipped iPod is so small, the idea of manufacturing one version with a radio and one without is just absurd. They'd never sell enough of the radio-equipped iPods to cover the cost of designing, building, shipping, marketing and selling another model of iPod.

    That's why Apple doesn't include a radio.