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Google Goes to Answers.com

tod_miller writes "Google has changed its definitions link from dictionary.com to answers.com. A google search for juxtaposition shows the effect. What is interesting is that answers.com pulls information from wikipedia.org, which was provided bandwidth by google.com [and now Google is providing a service that will be used worldwide to pull information off Wikipedia]. Aside from having both a dictionary.com and a wikipedia.org search box in FireFox (as well as Google) the definition link on Google is still useful and I regularly check it for obscure uses or exact definitions of words. Now it uses answers.com we do not get all the different forms of the word, but we do get any medical or wikipedic information. Interestingly, answers.com does not use Google AdSense, but commission junction that looks like it. There is no announcement yet from Google of their change." This change took place several weeks ago, as players of e-scrabble and other compulsive word-checkers might have noticed. Update: 03/13 23:20 GMT by T : (Also mentioned in passing last month.) Update: 03/14 02:13 GMT by T : Brion Vibber writes: "Google does *not* provide any bandwidth to Wikipedia at this time, except in the sense that they 'use up' our bandwidth when people using their search engine come to our site. ;)"

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  1. Maybe it will help improve wictionary by Skippy_kangaroo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, Wikipedia is not ready for the big time. The definitions they have for many words are pretty inadequate. Greater scrutiny and the juxtaposition of a 'real' dictionary with the wiki version should highlight the glaring deficiencies. But really - what is wiki's presence in the definitions list going to provide? Certainly nothing authoritative or expert or even accurate?

    1. Re:Maybe it will help improve wictionary by Buzzard2501 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well, Wikipedia certainly does a better job of describing juxtaposition that Dictionary.com

      Dictionary.com
      The act or an instance of juxtaposing or the state of being juxtaposed.
      Wikipedia
      Generally, juxtaposition, or contrasting is an act or instance of placing two things close together or side by side, in order to show unlikeness or differences, to note the opposite qualities of the two, etc.

      In music it is an abrupt change of elements.

      In film the position of shots next to one another is intended to create meaning within the audiences mind.

      In literature it occurs when two images that are otherwise not commonly brought together appear side by side or structural close together - thereby creating the reader to stop and reconsider the meaning of the text through the contrasting images/ideas/motifs.

      Modernist poetry played extensivley with juxtaposing images, inserting unrelated fragments togther in order to create wonder and interest in readers.

      Which would you prefer?
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  2. Wikipedia information incorrect by A.+Brate · · Score: 5, Informative

    You might want to correct the false statement that Google is providing hosting services to Wikipedia. Google has made such a proposal only.

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  3. No announcement by darkpurpleblob · · Score: 4, Informative
    There is no announcement yet from Google of their change.
    No there isn't, and I don't see any reason why they need to make one. However Marissa Meyer, Product Manager for Google explains the switch to answers.com:
    This decision was driven off of concern for our user experience. We are not paying answers.com for this service nor are they paying us. They were willing to work with us and design a website that we felt represented an improvement for our users over what was offered on dictionary.com (no pop-ups, dense information presentation).
  4. Bugs in Wikimedia projects by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course there are bugs in the content of Wikipedia, Wiktionary, and the other Wikimedia Foundation projects. But then there are also bugs in Britannica and bugs in Webster's. No reference is bug-free[1].

    [1] The faithful allege that Handbook for the Human Soul is perfect, but even there, translations from the original ancient Greek and Hebrew can be dodgy.

  5. Artical unclear... by Paralizer · · Score: 5, Informative
    I never noticed this feature before, so when I read the post I had no idea what it was talking about, other than something google was doing had changed from linking to dictionary.com to answers.com.

    For those of you wondering the same thing, since the post didn't really discuss where the feature is located, if you google query for "juxtaposition" (or any other word), at the top right portion of the results page there is a little information about how long the query took:
    Results 1 - 10 of about 887,000 for juxtaposition [definition]. (0.10 seconds)
    [definition] is the link which the post is referring to, it links to answers.com with the definition of the word.
  6. Good change by SteelV · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm happy about this change, when I noticed it a couple weeks ago. Dictionary.com is good, but all it only offers definitions. If I wanted those, I could use the google parameter define:WORD. Answers gives a great deal more information. Almost everything I want can be found there -- and to think, I didn't even know about it before google started using it (although I did know about wikipedia).

    It's also not as annoying, ad-wise, as dictionary.com.

    It'd be nice for google to make their own answers.com type site. Not sure if they will though.

  7. Re:I like answers.com by B'Trey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It might be a cleaner interface but it doesn't seem to be near as comprehensive. For example, I looked up the word "roynish" earlier today. Google drew a blank. Dictionary.com had it. This isn't the first time this has happened, although I don't recall the other words off the top of my head.

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  8. Re:And Slashdot Too! by kiltedtaco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hopefully never.

    Wikipedia is not peer-reviewed in the classical sense. It is not a replacement for peer-reviewed research. It is not a replacement for primary sources or anything else. It is a replacement for the encyclopedia. Do you trust encyclopaedia britanica as much as academic journals? I hope not.

    If you're conducting serious research, you are definitly not going to be using an encyclopaedia beyond the first 5 minutes. Wikipedia won't change that. It's good if you just want a quick overview of a subject or a what books an author wrote or something, but it's not a replacement for actual research.

  9. Problems with Wikis... by still_sick · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The first time I had ever used Wikipedia was when Hunter S Thompson died.

    Upon going to his page, and reading it thoroughly, I was treated to the little known fact that "he was a big supporter of child-pornography".

    This of course came as a shock to me - so I started trying to find ANY coroborating evidence elsewhere.

    Of course there was none, and within a few minutes the Wiki page was corrected of the stupiditiy.

    With this, I have very little faith in the reliability of Wiki pages. Sure, I happened to know enough about HTS to realize that that statement was probably false, and knew enough to double-check it. But what if I didn't? What about the other X thousand people who read the page at that time, and never bothered refreshing?

    This IS a fundamental problem with Wikis.

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  10. Don't go there. by blair1q · · Score: 4, Informative

    Go here:

    www.onelook.com

    All the dictionaries that matter*.

    * - except the OED, which believes more in money than in the free flow of information

  11. It's also free by rm999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As I recall reading (I don't remember where), one of the reasons for the switch was because answers.com is free ie. you can access everything without paying for "premium" services. For example, answers.com has a pronounciation feature for free, whereas dictionary.com charges for it. Don't know how true this is because I lost my source.

  12. Re:And Slashdot Too! by sydb · · Score: 4, Funny

    68 places more popular. That's how much more mainstream you can get.

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  13. Re:Stubs by ratsnapple+tea · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And what about the featured article removal candidates? The existence of these would seem to indicate that the quality of articles, over time, tends not towards brilliance, but mediocrity.

    In the past, I've vastly improved articles in the 'pedia (earning much praise in the process, so "improvement" isn't just my ego speaking) and returned to them after many months, only to find them unreadably disorganized or studded dangerously with errors. To me, this asymptotic approach to shitsville is even more damning than the fact that featured articles don't usually remain so for long.

  14. answers.com misses an edit link by Eloquence · · Score: 4, Informative
    While answers.com is a fully compliant Wikipedia mirror in terms of respecting the requirements of the GNU Free Documentation License, it would be very nice and beneficial for both answers.com and Wikipedia if they could provide a prominent direct link to edit the Wikipedia article. Wikipedia can only work if people keep editing and improving its content, and that effect is lost on read-only mirrors. I have sent that suggestion to GuruNet (the company operating answers.com), and here's what I got back:
    That's a very good idea, Erik, and one that we even discussed with Jimmy Wales when he visited our offices earlier this year. We're still working out how the Answers.com Wikipedia relationship is going to work, but I would not at all be surprised to see something like what you suggest down the road.
    So, hopefully they will add an edit link soon. It is also notable that GuruNet has expressed an interest in supporting Wikimedia in various ways (the specifics are not public at this point).
  15. Re:Stubs by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not necessarily. It is possible, however it doesn't tend to happen. One thing is that the articles have remained of high quality but our selection criteria has become tougher. During the "brilliant prose" days we had some articles that were pretty good (see for instance triangle, however we recently removed this - not because it got worse, but because had it been submitted to FAC today it would not get through.

    Incidently, I'm always glad to see someone who helps improve articles, and so I thank you for doing this. That's why I've added my baseline experiment: we can refer people to the "baseline", which people can't modify. As with any wiki, errors and disorganisation can occur. I've seen it myself.

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