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1.4mm Thick Gigabit Ethernet Cable
TheIonix writes "Flat network cables aren't anything new, but I'm pretty sure ones like this are. Japanese accessory king Elecom today announced the "LD-VAPF/SV05" network cabling, coming in at 1.4mm thick." Also here's their press release if you can read Japanese.
I'm not sure if it's out yet or not, but Flatwire has talked about this at least a year ago.
Google Translation of press release.
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If the pics are accurate, and you can really shut the window (sorry I don't read Japanese), then this is some cool stuff. I can see it being used to hide cabling and make it less obtrusive.
Other than that, they had better be selling it for close to normal cable prices, or I can't think of anyone who would buy very much of it.
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But surely a large file will not fit through such a small cable? You'd need to hammer them down first, which is an unwanted chore. Easier than making them small enough to transmit wirelessly, I guess.
... is not thickness, it's the cable ITSELF I think... I'd rather see some important research on WIFI than this kind of invention...
the whole point of making such announcement would be that you would have solved that shielding problem.
the real novelty of this thing(if you watch the pics) is that you can run it through thin places(like windowstills.. no need to bore a hole to the wall).
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"We are disrespectful to cable of girth. Can you see that we are serious? Join me or die. Can you do any less? For special lucky data, use Elecom LD-VAPF/SV05 network cabling."
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
It's interesting because fiber is pretty damned sensitive to things like going around corners and being run over with office chairs and a whole lot of other things can make it a challenge to deploy to the desktop. That's why gig over cat 5e is way more popular these days then over fibre. Outside of the machine room fibre isn't a popular solution. And definatly if you're going to run it around window tracks or under carpet with roller chairs, you don't want to use fib...
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The U in UTP is Unshielded. Standard Ethernet doesn't use shielding. But it does use the twists in the cabling to combat interference.
It looks like this flat cable is only for very small sections, for which you can probably get away without the twists if you've got another way to handle the interference.
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OK first off what is an Ethernet cable? You can not buy one at a store. You can buy a CAT5, CAT5E, CAT6...cable at nay computer store.n /0,,sid7_gci213234,00.html/
Second twisted pair UTP)is not shielded. http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinitio
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I do not read Japanese, but can imagine
1) this cable is rather expensive
2) the loses/reflections are higher than for normal cable
This is speculation, of course, but probably you don't want to make your entire home network from these cables...
Well, if you are going to use STP you need to be using equipment designed for it. Equipment designed for STP needs to have a good ground plane and needs to bring that plane out to each port. Between the grounding of the jacket and the twisted pair STP cabling should not be worse performing that UTP, and in some environments is MUCH better. Of course in any invironment with enough RF noise to warrant STP I would just use fibre and not have to worry about the RF at all =)
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The National Electrical Code requires that wiring in a plenum has a special teflon cladding that won't burn and fill the ducts with smoke in the case of a fire. I didn't see this mentioned in the article...
The twistedness actually is there to cancel out crosstalk. There isn't really any shielding for RF (either receiving or sending). The twistedness attempts to create pairs of wires that always appear to be 90 degrees in reference to the other wire. Any PCB designer knows that to get the least interference from lines, you try to cross them at 90 degrees, so they only "overlap" at a very small point. Parallel lines act like capacitors to eachother, and that's why we get crosstalk.
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We are so proud of you. Now go roll over your fiber optic cable with a chair. Now bend it around corners. What? It doesn't work anymore?
OK first off what is an Ethernet cable? You can not buy one at a store.
A google search for "ethernet cable" finds 682,000 pages that disagree with you.
By your argument, I guess you can't buy a car either... you can only buy a Honda Civic EX 1.5 5-sp Manual, Toyota Corolla CE 4-sp Auto etc.
The National Electrical Code requires that wiring in a plenum has a special teflon cladding that won't burn
PVC itself is fairly fire retardant, but it releases Hydrogen Chloride when heat is applied to it. Plenum rated cable burns, but it doesn't release HCl when it does so, and thus is required to be used in environments where air will be circulated.
Just in case you are wondering where you can get these cables, they should be available for pre-order from our site within 24 hours:
http://shinza.com/
Availability is expected within 3-4 weeks.